2014 FIFA World Cup - Deutschland Gewinnt!

[iup=3507133]Dblock[/iup] wrote:

[iup=3507129]Mafro[/iup] wrote:

[iup=3507121]Return_of_the_STAR[/iup] wrote:

[iup=3507118]chalkitdown[/iup] wrote:What a strawberry floating cop out by FIFA with those awards. Neither Neuer nor Messi deserved them. Just giving them to them because they're there.

FIFA only selected the short lists. A team of journalists picked the winners.

Ah.

Lol. You didn't know either ?

holy gooseberry fool.

I think i need to make a thread on the rules/ and how things are done in football.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/26852466

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/28220991


Please Derek, Tell me about these rules you speak of?

[iup=3507145]glowy69[/iup] wrote:Great montage.

Farewell Brazil. Amazing World Cup.

Yeah I'm enjoying the montage as well, especially the look back at the group stage highlights. I actually feel kinda sad that it's over. I miss the days of 3 matches in one day

The 'dancing' in this montage.

[iup=3507147]Saint of Killers[/iup] wrote:

[iup=3507140]Dblock[/iup] wrote:

[iup=3507136]Denster[/iup] wrote:Well at least there can be no arguments that this has been one if the greatest ever world cups. Loved it.

Rubbish.

Group stages was brilliant. As soon as we got to Quarter finals it has gone down hill.

It's still been the best one in ages.

Yeah but to say it's better than 94' 98' is just plain ignorance or you suffer from Amnesia.

[iup=3507154]Lucien[/iup] wrote:It was ok but it was as predictable as always. Of the five teams I thought would win it (knowing nothing about football) four made the semi-finals. Feels like a foregone conclusion until that point.

On paper, sure but most of teams were pushed to the absolute limit which made it exciting.

[iup=3507155]Dblock[/iup] wrote:

[iup=3507147]Saint of Killers[/iup] wrote:

[iup=3507140]Dblock[/iup] wrote:

[iup=3507136]Denster[/iup] wrote:Well at least there can be no arguments that this has been one if the greatest ever world cups. Loved it.

Rubbish.

Group stages was brilliant. As soon as we got to Quarter finals it has gone down hill.

It's still been the best one in ages.

Yeah but to say it's better than 94' 98' is just plain ignorance or you suffer from Amnesia.

Read back what he wrote.

There was a world cup in 94?

1994 wasn't all that. 1990 and 2002 were good. This one was brilliant.

chalkitdown wrote:

[iup=3507128]Ginga[/iup] wrote:Is there an argument that differs to mine?
Oh. Sorry, I find that logic to be mad.

Indeed.

Well, I was being polite. Chalky in knowing nothing about football non-shocker.

My favourite (in living memory) is still 2006, simply due to the Zidane masterclass, and the passion of the Italians.

[iup=3507159]glowy69[/iup] wrote:1994 wasn't all that. 1990 and 2002 were good. This one was brilliant.

WHAT!?

1990 was good 2002....hmm not really . 1994 was amazing from the opening . The amount of memorable stuff that happened was mind blowing. I was a child and I still remember it .

Baggio

[iup=3507160]Ginga[/iup] wrote:

chalkitdown wrote:

[iup=3507128]Ginga[/iup] wrote:Is there an argument that differs to mine?
Oh. Sorry, I find that logic to be mad.

Indeed.

Well, I was being polite.

That must've been tough for you.

2002 was midday drinking in the sun, watching England beat Argentina

1990 was my first living memory of a World Cup and the game against Belgium was immense. Platt.

2002 was awful.

Poor German team made the final. All the big teams got knocked out early. Some because of dodgy referees and South Korea.

chalkitdown wrote:

[iup=3507160]Ginga[/iup] wrote:

chalkitdown wrote:

[iup=3507128]Ginga[/iup] wrote:Is there an argument that differs to mine?
Oh. Sorry, I find that logic to be mad.

Indeed.

Well, I was being polite.

That must've been tough for you.

Bitch, please.

[iup=3507166]PES Fan[/iup] wrote:2002 was awful.

Poor German team made the final. All the big teams got knocked out early. Some because of dodgy referees and South Korea.

No. I can't accept that.
Midday drinking watching England, nothing can beat it.

Losing to Brazil at half 9 wasn't so fun.

PsychicSykes wrote:I can see why Messi got the award what with him being arguably the most influential player in the tournament. I doubt Argentina would've got anywhere near the final without him. Still, it's not worth getting annoyed at, I doubt he'll care too much given he's just lost in the World Cup final.

Is influential necessarily the same as being the best? He was influential in the sense that he provided the sole spark of quality in a match that was often dire, and amongst team mates that often struggled to break a team down and seemed more concerned with stifling the game. That Argentina laboured past Iran and Messi ends up scoring counts as influential, but you wouldn't say Rio 2014 was "Mess's tournament".

I wouldn't say he "played" the best though. He was influential, but he wasn't always exciting, unplayable or tearing teams apart. He had very, very long spells were he was very quiet and, for me, other players did more. And some, like Rodriguez, did it with less game time too.

I was a little bemused that he won the Golden Ball, though I don't think he was quite as "bad" as some people here. He is still a great. Can you say he is better/worse than Maradona or Pele? That is totally subjective and is an argument that will never really be settled either way. I don't think you can say he isn't just because he hasn't won a World Cup.

Still, DBlock is the least objective football fan of all time. Messi could kill a man and he would still be in here crowing about how Ronaldo wouldn't have the guts to do it.

Great group stage let down by poor quarter finals onwards. Tonights final was shite.

The group stage from this world cup with the latter stages from 2006. Pow.

Ps. I strawberry floating hate Mario Goetze.

[iup=3507144]PES Fan[/iup] wrote:

[iup=3507123]PsychicSykes[/iup] wrote:I can see why Messi got the award what with him being arguably the most influential player in the tournament. I doubt Argentina would've got anywhere near the final without him. Still, it's not worth getting annoyed at, I doubt he'll care too much given he's just lost in the World Cup final.

Not really.

Compare the Dutch team to Argentina team. Argentina have a lot of quality in their team. They have a decent defence. Mascherano one of the best cdms in the world. Di Maria, Lavezzi and Higuain are not a bad support act.

Robben nearly carried the Dutch to the final.

It's a good point, Robben was undeniably fantastic this tournament.

Comparing the two sides, I'd say Argentina had better players, but Holland had a better team if that makes sense. Sabellas tactics and substitutions didn't really seem to effect the game much and I'd say any great moments in the attacking third were in despite of his management than because of it. Compare that to LVG who was excellent throughout.

FWIW I don't think Messi should've won the award (I'd have given it to Muller or Rodriguez probably), I'm just saying that's how the people who did pick might have looked at it. You make a good point that Robben could certainly be considered under the same criteria though.

Wonderful stuff, so glad it was Germany. Spain winning it four years ago was indicative of how Spanish football was leading the way and it was the same here. Schweinsteiger was an absolute beast and the goal must go down as one of the best ever scored in a WC final