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by Mafro » Wed Sep 20, 2017 11:54 pm

Bought Gwenpool vol 3 for £2.53 and left it at that before I fell down the rabbit hole like I did last time they had this sale.

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PostRe: The Comics Thread - We were being watched...
by Mafro » Mon Sep 25, 2017 11:34 pm

Marvel Legacy #1 spoilers
Wolverine coming back (and original Jean Grey returning later this year) but Cyclops staying dead for now :lol: 8-)

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by Hexx » Tue Sep 26, 2017 12:17 am

Oh good. Wolverine :roll:

There's a barely gone (and still here in many ways) character desperately need to rerurn and exposure.

Marvel are really desperate


Ruining your big shock days early to the press though...DC and Marvel are both irking me with that gooseberry fool

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PostRe: The Comics Thread - We were being watched...
by Memento Mori » Tue Sep 26, 2017 9:41 pm

Mafro wrote:Marvel Legacy #1 spoilers
Wolverine coming back (and original Jean Grey returning later this year) but Cyclops staying dead for now :lol: 8-)

There are like five Wolverines running around! Should have been Reed and Sue.

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PostRe: The Comics Thread - We were being watched...
by Memento Mori » Wed Sep 27, 2017 8:59 pm

Marvel Legacy #1- Not exactly Reed and Sue but close enough. That aside though I was decidedly bored with the entire issue.

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PostRe: The Comics Thread - We were being watched...
by Hexx » Wed Sep 27, 2017 11:36 pm

The problem is it had no story of its own. It's just a massive series of teases for other comics - most which have been heavily solicited and promoted - but at premium price point

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by Mafro » Thu Sep 28, 2017 12:13 pm

Hexx wrote:The problem is it had no story of its own. It's just a massive series of teases for other comics - most which have been heavily solicited and promoted - but at premium price point

I always got the impression it was going to just be the same as a Point One issue with a collection of stories and teases of future books and that's pretty much what it was.

Wolverine literally smashing back into continuity in a beer truck was funny as strawberry float. Looking forward to seeing how the hell he got out of that adamantium though.

It was obvious something like this was going to happen with the movie next year, but it's cool to see the Infinity Stones tying together all the various parts of the universe.

Intergalactic Empire of Wakanda holy gooseberry fool :datass:


If Aaron isn't on Avengers next then I'll be absolutely shocked, that series has been pretty poor since Waid took over and Ultimates totally felt like the main Avengers book since Secret Wars anyway. Wouldn't mind seeing Aaron on the Wolverine solo either.

Infamous Iron Man #12 was an absolute shocker, last issue of the series and 70% of it was Mephisto breaking the fourth wall with a snarky monologue to the readers. What? And now I have to buy Invincible Iron Man to find out what happens next. Nah.

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PostRe: The Comics Thread - We were being watched...
by Hexx » Thu Sep 28, 2017 3:56 pm

Mafro wrote:
Hexx wrote:The problem is it had no story of its own. It's just a massive series of teases for other comics - most which have been heavily solicited and promoted - but at premium price point

I always got the impression it was going to just be the same as a Point One issue with a collection of stories and teases of future books and that's pretty much what it was.

Wolverine literally smashing back into continuity in a beer truck was funny as strawberry float. Looking forward to seeing how the hell he got out of that adamantium though.

It was obvious something like this was going to happen with the movie next year, but it's cool to see the Infinity Stones tying together all the various parts of the universe.

Intergalactic Empire of Wakanda holy gooseberry fool :datass:


If Aaron isn't on Avengers next then I'll be absolutely shocked, that series has been pretty poor since Waid took over and Ultimates totally felt like the main Avengers book since Secret Wars anyway. Wouldn't mind seeing Aaron on the Wolverine solo either.

Infamous Iron Man #12 was an absolute shocker, last issue of the series and 70% of it was Mephisto breaking the fourth wall with a snarky monologue to the readers. What? And now I have to buy Invincible Iron Man to find out what happens next. Nah.


It's hard not to compare it to Rebirth (which was half the price)

Rebirth felt like an apology (long term) fans "You didn't like our direction, so we're changing - here's how.". It was also wrapped up in a story of one person struggling to get back.

Legacy felt more "You say you didn't like what we're selling, but we know best. So we're gonna carry on, but present it differently. You will like it now". It didn't feel like a fresh start - it felt like repetition. Again. The narrator (not revealed to the end) felt like another "spectacular reveal to break the internet" rather than an interesting story point.

I don't know, I've got such a negative view of Marvel in the last few years - maybe it wouldn't ever had properly tempted back

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PostRe: The Comics Thread - We were being watched...
by Winckle » Thu Sep 28, 2017 4:12 pm

The only Marvel I read is The Unbeatable Squirrel girl. I used to read Spider-Man and Ms Marvel, but the stories kept getting interrupted by events so I stopped. I also read The Vision, which I thought was the best thing I'd read in comics in a long time, but then Marvel let DC poach the writer so cool.

With DC I read nearly everything each week.

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by Memento Mori » Thu Sep 28, 2017 6:37 pm

Mr Miracle by Tom King may be my favourite book at the moment.

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by Winckle » Thu Sep 28, 2017 6:39 pm

Memento Mori wrote:Mr Miracle by Tom King may be my favourite book at the moment.

It's so good. It feels like he's doing for DC what he did for Marvel with The Vision.

We should migrate GRcade to Flarum. :toot:
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by Mafro » Thu Sep 28, 2017 7:10 pm

Hexx wrote:
Mafro wrote:
Hexx wrote:The problem is it had no story of its own. It's just a massive series of teases for other comics - most which have been heavily solicited and promoted - but at premium price point

I always got the impression it was going to just be the same as a Point One issue with a collection of stories and teases of future books and that's pretty much what it was.

Wolverine literally smashing back into continuity in a beer truck was funny as strawberry float. Looking forward to seeing how the hell he got out of that adamantium though.

It was obvious something like this was going to happen with the movie next year, but it's cool to see the Infinity Stones tying together all the various parts of the universe.

Intergalactic Empire of Wakanda holy gooseberry fool :datass:


If Aaron isn't on Avengers next then I'll be absolutely shocked, that series has been pretty poor since Waid took over and Ultimates totally felt like the main Avengers book since Secret Wars anyway. Wouldn't mind seeing Aaron on the Wolverine solo either.

Infamous Iron Man #12 was an absolute shocker, last issue of the series and 70% of it was Mephisto breaking the fourth wall with a snarky monologue to the readers. What? And now I have to buy Invincible Iron Man to find out what happens next. Nah.


It's hard not to compare it to Rebirth (which was half the price)

Rebirth felt like an apology (long term) fans "You didn't like our direction, so we're changing - here's how.". It was also wrapped up in a story of one person struggling to get back.

Legacy felt more "You say you didn't like what we're selling, but we know best. So we're gonna carry on, but present it differently. You will like it now". It didn't feel like a fresh start - it felt like repetition. Again. The narrator (not revealed to the end) felt like another "spectacular reveal to break the internet" rather than an interesting story point.

I don't know, I've got such a negative view of Marvel in the last few years - maybe it wouldn't ever had properly tempted back

I don't follow DC at all so I didn't read Rebirth. Marvel haven't really had a clue what they're doing since Secret Wars ended and have just kinda been on autopilot (giving Bendis another major crossover event what the strawberry float were they thinking?). Hopefully things will pick up for them next year if the new creative team rumours are true (Coates on Captain America, Aaron on Avengers etc. and you've got people like Donny Cates taking over Dr Strange and Thanos. Said this before but current Marvel is the worst it's been in years, you probably have to go back to pre-Bendis New Avengers era for the last time the overall quality was this poor. It's really sad comparing it to stuff like the first Marvel NOW! relaunch that was just five years ago and was probably the best period they've ever had.

Winckle wrote:The only Marvel I read is The Unbeatable Squirrel girl. I used to read Spider-Man and Ms Marvel, but the stories kept getting interrupted by events so I stopped. I also read The Vision, which I thought was the best thing I'd read in comics in a long time, but then Marvel let DC poach the writer so cool.

With DC I read nearly everything each week.

You should check out Gwenpool if you like Squirrel Girl, volume 1 is only £3.60 for the digital version on Amazon. I was put off it because I was expecting it to be some wacky Deadpool rip-off but I bought it on a whim after seeing tons of people praising it in the comics thread on GAF and it's excellent.

I just cut my Marvel list down to stuff that wasn't involved in crossover events at all (Black Panther, Infamous Iron Man, Thanos, Gwenpool, Black Bolt)

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PostRe: The Comics Thread - We were being watched...
by Cuttooth » Sun Oct 08, 2017 8:14 pm

After getting through four years worth of comics in Hickman's Avengers - Secret Wars run I can honestly say I did not think I could be so underwhelmed by a storyline's conclusion than I am by that. Felt similarly to the end of his Fantastic Four run but that was at least a little shorter.

I think I’m a bit burnt out on crossover stuff from all that so I’m looking for more standalone titles/runs, maybe good DC stuff.

Oh, anyone have specific Daredevil recommendations? I have the first volume of Mark Waid's run from Amazon Prime but was wondering if there was anything that is close to the TV series?

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by Memento Mori » Sun Oct 08, 2017 8:55 pm

Cuttooth wrote:After getting through four years worth of comics in Hickman's Avengers - Secret Wars run I can honestly say I did not think I could be so underwhelmed by a storyline's conclusion than I am by that. Felt similarly to the end of his Fantastic Four run but that was at least a little shorter.

I think I’m a bit burnt out on crossover stuff from all that so I’m looking for more standalone titles/runs, maybe good DC stuff.

Oh, anyone have specific Daredevil recommendations? I have the first volume of Mark Waid's run from Amazon Prime but was wondering if there was anything that is close to the TV series?

That's the first time I've heard that about Hickman's run.

Some quick recs off the top of my head:

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The Black Mirror by Snyder
Gotham Central
52
The first two issues of King's Mr Miracle have been fantastic.
All Star Superman
Superman Rebirth

Daredevil
Bendis' entire run
Brubaker's entire run

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by Cuttooth » Sun Oct 08, 2017 9:05 pm

In fairness it's something I've felt with a lot of comic book storylines, copious amounts of build up with rushed, unsatisfying endings. It was great up to the end of Infinity but went downhill after that for me.

Cheers for the recommendations, especially Gotham Central as I've been meaning to read that for years but completely forgot its existence.

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by Mafro » Mon Oct 09, 2017 12:22 pm

I see the latest Marvel shitshow was them announcing a partnership comic at NYCC with the 5th biggest arms manufacturer in the world thinking that would be cool, then cancelling it after the unanimous outrage https://www.bleedingcool.com/2017/10/07 ... expressed/

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PostRe: The Comics Thread - We were being watched...
by Hexx » Mon Oct 09, 2017 12:27 pm

Yep. The Avengers team up with NGEN (a super team of scientists) to help save the world

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And if you want a career where you save the world and meet superheroes - considera STEM course working for an arms dealer!

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by Cuttooth » Mon Oct 09, 2017 12:33 pm

It's intense how much they thought this awful gooseberry fool was a good idea and how many people presumably had to sign it off.

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PostRe: The Comics Thread - We were being watched...
by Hexx » Mon Oct 09, 2017 12:36 pm

I hadn't seen that one :lol:

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by Mafro » Mon Oct 09, 2017 12:41 pm

It pissed off G. Willow Wilson enough that she almost quit the company http://gwillowwilson.com/post/166159537168/yeah-no
I would have left. I’m not naive; I know all collaborations involve compromise, ideological or otherwise. But everybody has their own red lines, and bespoke recruitment paraphernalia for combat drone manufacturers–under the fantastically cynical guise of encouraging kids to get into STEM careers–is my red line and then some.

So I stayed up until about 2:30am last night looking at my schedule and trying to figure out a timeline to extricate myself without screwing over the incredible editors and co-creators I work with.

Thankfully, I haven’t needed to run with it, as it seems as though sanity has prevailed and the project has been canned, at least for now.


Seems they announced strawberry float all at the convention other than a Weapon H solo series (WHO GIVES A strawberry float) and a comic starring the Weeknd as a superhero(?!) They basically confirmed Professor X is coming back next year too, continuing their crusade to piss off X-Men fans and bring back everyone apart from Cyclops.

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