Anyone else gravitating to 'Exclusives'?

Tragic Magic wrote:I get all multiplatform games on 360 for Live and achievements.

and for the best version of course!

To me, Nintendo is a "special case": few games come close to a Galaxy, an Ocarina of Time or a Jungle Beat.

But if I look at my (small) collection of XBox360 games, I can't say I like the exclusives better than the multi format games. Quite the opposite in fact, I loved RE5 and PoP. I did enjoy Fable 2 a lot, it's at the same level as those two games, but Banjo Kazooie: Nuts and Bolts on the other hand never really 'clicked' with me.

Exclusives tend to have more backing than many games as M$ and Sony get behind them with extra money. This means that they often have a nicer shine to them, but not always.

I buy most exclusives on both my PS3 and 360 as they are often the more interesting titles. The reason that people sometimes don't own a lot of multi format games is that this generation has seen a lot of average muti format games.

samoza wrote:Exclusives tend to have more backing than many games as M$ and Sony get behind them with extra money. This means that they often have a nicer shine to them, but not always.

I buy most exclusives on both my PS3 and 360 as they are often the more interesting titles. The reason that people sometimes don't own a lot of multi format games is that this generation has seen a lot of average muti format games.

BANG...this is exactly my thoughts. There are exceptions but ,in general, exclusives have been better games this generation and a multitude of multi-format titles have been really quite mediocre.

There's very few multi-platform games that interest me. I don't buy many games so every game I do buy is something that I know I'll really like. So, the only multi-platform games I own this gen are Virtua Fighter 5 and GTA4. The other 10 PS3 games I own are all exclusive and I want to get Killzone 2 and inFamous soon which will bump that up to 12 exclusives.

cooldawn wrote:

samoza wrote:Exclusives tend to have more backing than many games as M$ and Sony get behind them with extra money. This means that they often have a nicer shine to them, but not always.

I buy most exclusives on both my PS3 and 360 as they are often the more interesting titles. The reason that people sometimes don't own a lot of multi format games is that this generation has seen a lot of average muti format games.

BANG...this is exactly my thoughts. There are exceptions but ,in general, exclusives have been better games this generation and a multitude of multi-format titles have been really quite mediocre.

Thats a load of nonsense.

You can't compare them that way, there are hundreds or thousands of multiplatform games and only a handful of exclusive ones, its a nonsense to say that exclusives are better.

Its wrong too, so far this generation if anything has gone the other way, many more of the best games are multiplatform titles than ever before. New franchises are generally coming to both platforms more and loads of previously exclusive (or partly exclusive) titles are going multiplatform.

Whats more the quality of exclusive games is patchy at best outside a relatively small core of titles.

HSH28 wrote:

cooldawn wrote:

samoza wrote:Exclusives tend to have more backing than many games as M$ and Sony get behind them with extra money. This means that they often have a nicer shine to them, but not always.

I buy most exclusives on both my PS3 and 360 as they are often the more interesting titles. The reason that people sometimes don't own a lot of multi format games is that this generation has seen a lot of average muti format games.

BANG...this is exactly my thoughts. There are exceptions but ,in general, exclusives have been better games this generation and a multitude of multi-format titles have been really quite mediocre.

Thats a load of nonsense.

You can't compare them that way, there are hundreds or thousands of multiplatform games and only a handful of exclusive ones, its a nonsense to say that exclusives are better.

Its wrong too, so far this generation if anything has gone the other way, many more of the best games are multiplatform titles than ever before. New franchises are generally coming to both platforms more and loads of previously exclusive (or partly exclusive) titles are going multiplatform.

Whats more the quality of exclusive games is patchy at best outside a relatively small core of titles.

This isn't about the quantity of non-exclusive games, it's about the quality...of lack thereof...of all games. I just happen to think that exclusives pop-out a lot more this gen. It may be a nonsense to you because you practically buy everything under the sun but it's the primary reason why I find myself in a situation whereby multi-platform games are somewhat lacking these days.

Like I said before there is a small pocket of outstanding multi-platform exclusives out now...my personal favourite being Dead Space...but in my opinion that doesn't reflect that general state of the marketplace.

One thing you must remember is that it's just my opinion...there is no right or wrong about it regardless of what others think. I just wondered if other forumites are feeling the same, where they generally feel they get a better gaming experience from exclusives this gen.

cooldawn wrote:This isn't about the quantity of non-exclusive games, it's about the quality...of lack thereof...of all games. I just happen to think that exclusives pop-out a lot more this gen. It may be a nonsense to you because you practically buy everything under the sun but it's the primary reason why I find myself in a situation whereby multi-platform games are somewhat lacking these days.

This is why its nonsense, there are far less exclusive titles and so of course if you split games up into exclusive and non-exclusive, the ratio of highquality to rubbish of the exclusives is going to stand out...but if you look at the quantity of high quality titles on either side I don't know how you can come the the conclusion that the exclusives have more quality titles...because there are so few of them.

So you have a handful of titles, the majority of which are of a high quality, put against masses of titles with a much lower percentage of quality titles...but because there are so damn many of them, even that lower percentage is more than the numbers of exclusive titles.

The exclusive quality titles might well stand out more than the multiplatform quality ones, because they are part of a much smaller group...but there just plain aren't more of them.

It's not nonsense to compare exclusives with non-exclusives at all. Yes there are a lot more non-exclusives therefore the general quality may be lower, but that is the entire point of what an exclusive should be. Something that the developers have spent a little more time on and improved for their given platform.

If you are a person unable to buy many games and you are given the choice of a random exclusive game or a random non-exclusive - the exclusive will have a greater chance of being good.

HSH28 wrote:

cooldawn wrote:This isn't about the quantity of non-exclusive games, it's about the quality...of lack thereof...of all games. I just happen to think that exclusives pop-out a lot more this gen. It may be a nonsense to you because you practically buy everything under the sun but it's the primary reason why I find myself in a situation whereby multi-platform games are somewhat lacking these days.

This is why its nonsense, there are far less exclusive titles and so of course if you split games up into exclusive and non-exclusive, the ratio of highquality to rubbish of the exclusives is going to stand out...but if you look at the quantity of high quality titles on either side I don't know how you can come the the conclusion that the exclusives have more quality titles...because there are so few of them.

OK, just because you didn't get my last post I'll make it more obvious to you.

'One thing you must remember is that it's just my opinion...there is no right or wrong about it regardless of what others think. I just wondered if other forumites are feeling the same, where they generally feel they get a better gaming experience from exclusives this gen.'

I'm not saying that this relates to everyone but I'm interested to see who on this forum are seeing that, actually, multi-format titles matter less this gen. It's not right, it's not wrong...it's an opinion. That's how I come to my personal conclusion on the subject. It's not fact...and I never said it was fact.

HSH28 wrote:So you have a handful of titles, the majority of which are of a high quality, put against masses of titles with a much lower percentage of quality titles...but because there are so damn many of them, even that lower percentage is more than the numbers of exclusive titles.

The exclusive quality titles might well stand out more than the multiplatform quality ones, because they are part of a much smaller group...but there just plain aren't more of them.

And this is where we differ...I think exclusives have been better which is why I'm slowly gravitating to those games this gen and no amount of multi-platform titles have changed my personal perception or state of the industry.

I own 18 XBOX360 games of which 9 of them are exclusive...the last four games I bought were all exclusive to the platform. I own 21 PlayStation3 games of which 15 are exclusive. Overall I own more exclusives and, looking ahead, so are the next few games bar one. I just think they offer better value than multi-format games these days.

That might be your opinion, but if you look at it objectively, its just not the case.

There are more top quality multiplatform games now than there have ever been and there are less exclusive titles than there have ever been.

Thats a fact, nothing to do with anyones personal opinion.

If you are finding that you like more of the exclusive titles than the multiplatform ones recently then its about your personal taste and not a general trend in the industry, because like I said, its going in the opposite direction.

HSH28 wrote:That might be your opinion, but if you look at it objectively, its just not the case.

There are more top quality multiplatform games now than there have ever been and there are less exclusive titles than there have ever been.

Thats a fact, nothing to do with anyones personal opinion.

Once again, it's got nothing to do with quantity. It's about gamers buying habits and if they feel that they are adopting exclusives more than ever before...in some cases, like me, over an above multi-platform games.

HSH28 wrote:If you are finding that you like more of the exclusive titles than the multiplatform ones recently then its about your personal taste and not a general trend in the industry, because like I said, its going in the opposite direction.

That's the whole point...it is my opinion hence I buy more exclusive titles. Jesus christ...you seem to stumble on the reason for this thread and then disregard it. That was the whole point of the thread...to see which gamers are gravitating to exclusives because they might prefer them.

cooldawn wrote:Once again, it's got nothing to do with quantity.

The quantity of quality releases is all that its about.

cooldawn wrote:It's about gamers buying habits and if they feel that they are adopting exclusives more than ever before...in some cases, like me, over an above multi-platform games.

What I'm saying is that the opposite of that is the case, things are going more quality multiplatform, less exclusive. This is generally how its going at the moment, your personal situation doesn't come in to it at all.

HSH28 wrote::fp:

cooldawn wrote:Once again, it's got nothing to do with quantity.

The quantity of quality releases is all that its about.

cooldawn wrote:It's about gamers buying habits and if they feel that they are adopting exclusives more than ever before...in some cases, like me, over an above multi-platform games.

What I'm saying is that the opposite of that is the case, things are going more quality multiplatform, less exclusive. This is generally how its going at the moment, your personal situation doesn't come in to it at all.

I'm not asking about the actual direction of the industry. I am asking if people are, in any way, gravitating to exclusives or not. Simple as that. If people want to comment on the state of multi-platform games, as an opinion, then fine.

You've decided, as usual, to make a mountain out of a molehill.

I like cooldawn's posts better.

Just my opinion and all, but in general he seems to have more quality to quantity ratio.

HSH just seems to bumble on too much for my taste's.

I realise this is not that objective, but what they hey.

As you say, cooldawn, I think it's down to buying habits - if you buy lots of games, you can afford the greater range that muliformat games provide; but if you only buy a few, you'd be better off with exclusives.

However, HSH is also correct that there are a greater number of good multi-format titles than there are exclusive ones... but do those good multi-formats appeal in the same way? ALL of my games have to be extra-special or I just won't bother, and in my (limited, if long-term) experience, devs work better on big exclusives, since they often have the manufacturer's drect backing.

I think games such as RE5 or Deadspace would have been better for having exclusivity (for a variety of reasons)... in fact, I'm going to generalise all of that - the best exclusives are invariably better than the best multi-formats, even though there are more of the latter.

mic wrote:I think games such as RE5 or Deadspace would have been better for having exclusivity (for a variety of reasons)... in fact, I'm going to generalise all of that - the best exclusives are invariably better than the best multi-formats, even though there are more of the latter.

If thats the case though (I'm not sure it is), then its always been like that, its nothing new.

cooldawn wrote:I'm not asking about the actual direction of the industry. I am asking if people are, in any way, gravitating to exclusives or not.

What I'm saying is that while you are going in one direction, gaming seems to be going in the other. Thats all. I'm not saying its right or wrong, just that its an odd time for you to be having this conversion to exclusives.

HSH28 wrote:

mic wrote:I think games such as RE5 or Deadspace would have been better for having exclusivity (for a variety of reasons)... in fact, I'm going to generalise all of that - the best exclusives are invariably better than the best multi-formats, even though there are more of the latter.

If thats the case though (I'm not sure it is), then its always been like that, its nothing new.

I dunno, I remember back in the PS1 and Saturn days when Tomb Raider, Resident Evil and Wipeout were all considered to be some of the best games available at the time, but all three of those were multiplatform.

Those were all exclusive at launch though, Tomb Raider to Saturn and the other two to Playstation.

mic wrote:As you say, cooldawn, I think it's down to buying habits - if you buy lots of games, you can afford the greater range that muliformat games provide; but if you only buy a few, you'd be better off with exclusives.

Of course dude...but that kinda plays in to this as well. I mean I can buy whatever games I want but I haven't, which is the key point and, of those that I have bought most recently, they have increasingly been exclusives. To me, generally, the quality of exclusives has exceeded that of multi-format titles this gen which is why my buying habits have changed. I currently feel exclusives offer me more.

mic wrote:However, HSH is also correct that there are a greater number of good multi-format titles than there are exclusive ones... but do those good multi-formats appeal in the same way? ALL of my games have to be extra-special or I just won't bother, and in my (limited, if long-term) experience, devs work better on big exclusives, since they often have the manufacturer's drect backing.

I think games such as RE5 or Deadspace would have been better for having exclusivity (for a variety of reasons)... in fact, I'm going to generalise all of that - the best exclusives are invariably better than the best multi-formats, even though there are more of the latter.

I think it's because I'm not so easily pleased these days with videogames. For me to be at all interested it has to offer me something exceptional and I just don't see that so much in multi-format titles these days.

I didn't really think about...it's been a completely transparent process...but this weekend I figured that I've been buying/playing more exclusive content in the last year.