OrangeRKN wrote:Parksey wrote:So my understanding is:
*If they lynch the villager, the NC kills Emily/Hugo, then J kills the NC and wins. If the NC kills the Jac, village kills them and win.
Like I said in this situation the NC should choose not to kill, force the Jac to kill Emily/Hugo, and then the surviving villager gets to choose which faction wins.
Unless NC are forced to kill?
The best move for the FFs as a whole is to poach the mayorship tomorrow (2/5 = 40%). Then it plays out as a town miscondemn albeit with the possibility of the ffs killing both townies in the night. Theory dictates NC wouldn't agree to this though as the jac could kill them as soon as they kill town so the NC would still want to no kill and force the game to go to a town kingmaker.
I think the NC sacrifice, while interesting, was a mistake. They'd be in a better position alone with a single night kill as the extra jac kill buys them nothing.
Interesting analysis! It instinctively seems counterintuitive that going down to one Citizen death could be good for the FFs but then of course there is the split faction element to consider.
satriales wrote:So the Friday role list didn't actually list any roles!!
We actually considered several times to make up a role and try and do some big plays but the role list being revealed in a few days put us off.
This is actually where The Great Deception began. Sawyerpip kept some of the finer details to himself (and presumably what went on to become the trusted group). One of them was that it would only reveal roles in some cases.
This conscious omission seemed to spark the streak of deceit that was to come over the next few days. I'm sure I've never seen so much bullshit coming from the Town in a game like this, certainly not in a way that turned out to be so successful!
Nun wrote:The idea that it was a full role call was useful for bluffing though
I swear the three things it listed were FFs, Vigs and Esteemed Righteousness? Which is why I was so confused there were only two vigs as I assumed there would be more otherwise why include it.
That's right. I'm actually not sure now if Hugo is bluffing again, claiming it didn't include those with esteemed righteousness, or if he has genuinely forgotten and not gone back to reread. Seems an odd bluff as it's obsolete now really.
Maybe he has a taste for telling lies as he has done throughout the game and now he can't get enough of it.