Arcade Fire: Just A Reflektor - 29/10/2013

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PostRe: Arcade Fire: The Suburbs
by HSH28 » Fri Aug 06, 2010 2:57 pm

Let's go downtown and watch the modern kids
Let's go downtown and talk to the modern kids
They will eat right out of your hand
Using great big words that they don't understand
They say

Rococo, rococo, rococo, rococo
Rococo, rococo, rococo, rococo


I'm generally not a fan of excessive repetition in song lyrics, which is definitely on show here. On top of some pretty nonsensical other lyrics, it doesn't make for a great song for me.

Like I said its catchy, the kind of song that gets in your head and doesn't let go...which is why I said I can see it becoming annoying.

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PostRe: Arcade Fire: The Suburbs
by Jingle Ord The Way » Fri Aug 06, 2010 3:14 pm

Let's go downtown and watch the modern kids
Let's go downtown and talk to the modern kids
They will eat right out of your hand
Using great big words that they don't understand
They say

Rococo, rococo, rococo, rococo
Rococo, rococo, rococo, rococo

They build it up just to burn it back down
They build it up just to burn it back down
The wind is blowing all the ashes around
Oh my dear god what is that horrible song they're singing

Rococo, rococo, rococo, rococo
Rococo, rococo, rococo, rococo
Rococo, rococo, rococo, rococo
Rococo, rococo, rococo, rococo
Rococo, rococo!
Rococo!

They seem wild but they are so tame
They seem wild but they are so tame
They're moving towards you with their colors all the same
They want to own you but they don't know what game they're playing

Rococo, rococo, rococo, rococo
Rococo!
Rococo!

(Rococo)
(Rococo)

Rococo!
Rococo!

(Rococo)
(Rococo)

Rococo!

Actually I think it's pretty clear that the song is a knock on some of the fickleness and pretentiousness of young teens, that love a band one minute and proclaim them to be gooseberry fool whenever something new comes. Quite an angry song in fact.
Adam Downer gave The Suburbs a slightly negative three out of five stars, due to its "bitter and deeply resentful" lyrics and its commentary on the band's fan base.[17] Downer continued, "If Butler weren’t so intent of flipping everyone off, the album could have been the important, mammoth commentary on modern hipster culture it’s intended as. Instead it just sort of exists as this sour shadow of a band that was once described as 'hopeful.'"


Rococo is one of the best tracks on this album.

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PostRe: Arcade Fire: The Suburbs
by HSH28 » Fri Aug 06, 2010 3:47 pm

Ord wrote:Actually I think it's pretty clear that the song is a knock on some of the fickleness and pretentiousness of young teens, that love a band one minute and proclaim them to be gooseberry fool whenever something new comes. Quite an angry song in fact.


So what? That doesn't make the song good or the lyrics particularly meaningful. Its a one note song lyrically, just a bit bland. Like I said I'm not a fan of repeating words in any track, this is a particularly bad example.

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PostRe: Arcade Fire: The Suburbs
by Jingle Ord The Way » Fri Aug 06, 2010 3:54 pm

HSH28 wrote:
Ord wrote:Actually I think it's pretty clear that the song is a knock on some of the fickleness and pretentiousness of young teens, that love a band one minute and proclaim them to be gooseberry fool whenever something new comes. Quite an angry song in fact.


So what? That doesn't make the song good or the lyrics particularly meaningful. Its a one note song lyrically, just a bit bland. Like I said I'm not a fan of repeating words in any track, this is a particularly bad example.

Actually i'm not a fan of you being a twat but that doesn't stop me from enjoying your ludicrous posts. Do you see?


The song is ace!

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PostRe: Arcade Fire: The Suburbs
by Jingle Ord The Way » Fri Aug 06, 2010 3:54 pm

Sorry. :shifty:

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PostRe: Arcade Fire: The Suburbs
by HSH28 » Fri Aug 06, 2010 3:57 pm

Not sorry enough to change that post though are you. What a ridiculous thing to say just because someone doesn't agree with you.

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PostRe: Arcade Fire: The Suburbs
by Jingle Ord The Way » Fri Aug 06, 2010 4:03 pm

That's right Hugo. Because you've never posted anything ridiculous whenever people have disagreed with your opinion, have you?

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PostRe: Arcade Fire: The Suburbs
by Irene Demova » Fri Aug 06, 2010 4:05 pm

Out of interest does this hatred of repetition stem beyond music?

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PostRe: Arcade Fire: The Suburbs
by HSH28 » Fri Aug 06, 2010 4:06 pm

Nothing purposely offensive.

Getting back to the song, assuming it gets released as a single, I expect it to be big for a few months before everyone becomes utterly sick of it.

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PostRe: Arcade Fire: The Suburbs
by Jingle Ord The Way » Fri Aug 06, 2010 4:10 pm

HSH28 wrote:Nothing purposely offensive.

Getting back to the song, assuming it gets released as a single, I expect it to be big for a few months before everyone becomes utterly sick of it.

Much like the subject of the song then eh?

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PostRe: Arcade Fire: The Suburbs
by Vermin » Fri Aug 06, 2010 4:14 pm

Rococo itself was a French Art movement that was all style and nae substance. It was so bad that it could only get better - Neoclassicism, then impressionism notably.

I think rather than a direct attack on fickle fans, it's a comment that we are currently in some sort of Rococo age of Art, where Art of course covers the whole spectrum of vapidity in general. We realise as we get older that this is, as Robert Wyatt said, 'the age of Self'. Da kids, they just don't get that, and deconstruct and idolise the empty. It's hardly fair to attack them, though. Few teenagers do anything other than work with the materials they're given.

*Edit* To be even more diplomatic, it's not like the world today is in any way similar to that of Rococo. Great Art is most fecund when man struggles to understand something. With the internet allowing us to view atrocities across the world, and debunk previous beliefs (I'm not talking about tinhat gooseberry fool), and effectively educate us as fast as our brains can take it, there are very few aspects of life we are left searching to comprehend - at least metaphysically.

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PostRe: Arcade Fire: The Suburbs
by Skippy » Fri Aug 06, 2010 6:00 pm

Back to being positive about this bloody MASTERPIECE it just keeps on giving after 7 listens :mrgreen:

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PostRe: Arcade Fire: The Suburbs
by Mogster » Fri Aug 06, 2010 6:23 pm

Skippy wrote:Back to being positive about this bloody MASTERPIECE it just keeps on giving after 7 listens :mrgreen:

It's the same for me. It gets better with each listen, and I loved it to start with.

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PostRe: Arcade Fire: The Suburbs
by HSH28 » Fri Aug 06, 2010 9:07 pm

These are the good tracks...

Ready to Start
City With No Children
Half Light I
Suburban War
Deep Blue
We Used to Wait
Sprawl II

...the rest is mostly filler, with a couple of tracks I really don't like.

Can't understand the majority of you who think its better than either of the previous albums, I mean its a very good album, but both Funeral and Neon Bible are exceptional.

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PostRe: Arcade Fire: The Suburbs
by Skippy » Fri Aug 06, 2010 9:36 pm

HSH28 wrote:These are the good tracks...

Ready to Start
City With No Children
Half Light I
Suburban War
Deep Blue
We Used to Wait
Sprawl II


I'm glad you cleared that up for us, I was waiting for your informed opinion before I formulated me own.

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PostRe: Arcade Fire: The Suburbs
by HSH28 » Fri Aug 06, 2010 10:37 pm

Skippy wrote:
HSH28 wrote:These are the good tracks...

Ready to Start
City With No Children
Half Light I
Suburban War
Deep Blue
We Used to Wait
Sprawl II


I'm glad you cleared that up for us, I was waiting for your informed opinion before I formulated me own.


Skippy wrote:Back to being positive about this bloody MASTERPIECE it just keeps on giving after 7 listens :mrgreen:


Oh look what a surprise.

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PostRe: Arcade Fire: The Suburbs
by Jingle Ord The Way » Fri Aug 06, 2010 10:48 pm

*sigh* Another ridiculous post by Hugo to someone who doesn't have the same opinion as him.

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PostRe: Arcade Fire: The Suburbs
by Skippy » Fri Aug 06, 2010 11:02 pm

It's not his opinion of it, it's the way he said "these are the good tracks" like he's laying out what people are allowed to like and what people aren't.

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PostRe: Arcade Fire: The Suburbs
by HSH28 » Fri Aug 06, 2010 11:08 pm

You did exactly the same thing. 'This is a Masterpiece'. People aren't allowed to say anything else.

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PostRe: Arcade Fire: The Suburbs
by Fargo » Fri Aug 06, 2010 11:17 pm

I love this album. :wub:


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