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Are game updates becoming stupid?

Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2018 6:30 pm
by Peter Crisp
I've just started downloading a 14.3GB update for the Vermintide 2 Beta, a bloody Beta :fp: .

I could understand large updates for finished games but the Beta? This is getting beyond a joke (this is hardly the worst offender) and I dread to think how frustrating it must be for anyone with less than decent connections. What can be done about this as it's really getting silly now?

Re: Are game updates becoming stupid?

Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2018 6:36 pm
by Johnny Ryall
I think you're always going to get bigger updates for the beta, it's unoptimised and probably has a load of redundant data in there.

Games as a service is a thing now, it's no longer theoretical it's here. I'd levy your anger towards your broadband provider if your speeds are bad.

Re: Are game updates becoming stupid?

Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2018 6:51 pm
by Zellery
My broadband downloads a gig a minute roughly so I never feel angry about any updates or large games.

I guess I'm lucky.

Re: Are game updates becoming stupid?

Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2018 7:21 pm
by KjGarly
What's annoying is I turn my Boner on last night and there was not only that update for Vermi 2 but an update for Fortnite, Sea of Thieves, State of Decay 2 and 2 other games. My Xbox was set to quick start with auto updates on yet I had to initiate the ducking downloads myself.

Ducking autocorrect.

Re: Are game updates becoming stupid?

Posted: Sat Jun 30, 2018 2:56 am
by Green Gecko
There's one system that handles updates exceptionally well and it's.... Wii U

Silent downloads during standby, updates install in moments when launching a title (with the option given to not strawberry floating install it yet and just play the damn game already), barely had to wait more than a minute.

Is it like that on Switch?

I hated this on 360, PSN is strawberry floating embarrassingly slow on PS3. The volume of data doesn't matter if you have storage. It's just the speed of these servers, and the length of the installation routines. They take waaaay to long.

That and, y'know, Nintendo tend to release finished games.

Re: Are game updates becoming stupid?

Posted: Sat Jun 30, 2018 7:03 am
by Trelliz
Green Gecko wrote:PSN is strawberry floating embarrassingly slow on PS3. The volume of data doesn't matter if you have storage. It's just the speed of these servers, and the length of the installation routines. They take waaaay to long.

That and, y'know, Nintendo tend to release finished games.


I just plug my PS3 into the router if I want to download anything on it as the wifi speed is terrible, that definitely helps.

Re: Are game updates becoming stupid?

Posted: Sat Jun 30, 2018 6:51 pm
by Green Gecko
Y'know I haven't tried that and they are next to each other now, cheers.

Re: Are game updates becoming stupid?

Posted: Sat Jun 30, 2018 7:10 pm
by Peter Crisp
I used a homeplug to link my PS3 as the wifi was indeed rubbish.

Re: Are game updates becoming stupid?

Posted: Sat Jun 30, 2018 10:33 pm
by PuppetBoy
I get a little annoyed by Rocket League's updates on PS4, not so much because of the file sizes - they don't tend to be huge - but just because they are so frequent. I'm sure there's a new update every other time I go to play the game. And that's fairly often.

Re: Are game updates becoming stupid?

Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2018 9:11 am
by Squinty
Wanted to throw my xbox one out of the video last night for this very reason.

Re: Are game updates becoming stupid?

Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2018 11:46 am
by Zellery
Squinty wrote:Wanted to throw my xbox one out of the video last night for this very reason.

It probably shouldn't be in there in the first place.

Re: Are game updates becoming stupid?

Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2018 3:25 pm
by Squinty
Zellery wrote:
Squinty wrote:Wanted to throw my xbox one out of the video last night for this very reason.

It probably shouldn't be in there in the first place.


Don't know how or why autocorrected windows to video. The mysteries of technology.

Re: Are game updates becoming stupid?

Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2018 2:48 pm
by imbusydoctorwho
I spend most of last week downloading a bloody 45GB update for Star War Battlefront 2, these stupidly large patches are a total joke and show how incomplete games are these days.

Re: Are game updates becoming stupid?

Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2018 3:11 pm
by Death's Head
Typically it doesn't bother me too much as it isn't like I only have one game to play. If the update is just a few GBs then it doesn't normally involve too long a wait but if it is more than 5 I'll just play something else.

The problem is that this has somehow become acceptable when the reality is that the games aren't really fit for release if they need such big updates.

Re: Are game updates becoming stupid?

Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2018 3:23 pm
by Mafro
I can understand "live service" games or MMOs needing large patches but stuff like the massive ones for Doom, Halo MCC and 5, Dead Rising 3, Gears 4 etc are ridiculous. Huge day 1 patches are the worst.

Re: Are game updates becoming stupid?

Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2018 6:17 pm
by 7256930752
It's mad when you think some of these patches take up more space than every Nintendo game released on the Switch combined.

Re: Are game updates becoming stupid?

Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2018 7:50 am
by Moggy
Death's Head wrote:Typically it doesn't bother me too much as it isn't like I only have one game to play.


Usually that is true, but it is really annoying if you want to play a certain game and then find there is a 10GB patch. :x

Re: Are game updates becoming stupid?

Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2018 8:47 am
by KK
It is irritating when you, say, have an hour to play something and you’re hit with a triple whammy of updates. The TV needs updating, you can’t log in to the PSN because that needs updating, and then the game itself needs updating...

Re: Are game updates becoming stupid?

Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2018 9:11 am
by jawafour
KK wrote:...The TV needs updating...

Oh, blimey, is this a thing now? My TV is ancient and so doesn't run any kind of regular update system. I will stick with it for as long as possible!

As for game updates... I'm kinda used to them now. Software publishers have conditioned us to think that disc-versions-being-download-keys, huge day one patches and constant updates are "normal". My PS4 sometimes does a "copying" stage after downloading and that takes ages, too. But... yeah, I accept this as usual stuff now. My thinking has been moulded over time to barely notice this situation, even though it's a bit pony.

Re: Are game updates becoming stupid?

Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2018 9:47 am
by Photek
Peter Crisp wrote:I've just started downloading a 14.3GB update for the Vermintide 2 Beta, a bloody Beta :fp: .

I could understand large updates for finished games but the Beta? This is getting beyond a joke (this is hardly the worst offender) and I dread to think how frustrating it must be for anyone with less than decent connections. What can be done about this as it's really getting silly now?

I get quite excited when I see my games have updated and/or on list to update. First off was all of the Xbox One X enhanced games getting up-rezzed/better framerates which means games I own now have a new lease of life, then there's patches to makes games run better (Mafia 3/State of Decay 2) plus games as a service like Sea of Thieves and The Division just get better over time. I concede that games shouldn't need patches but all companies do it now so it's the norm. #partoftheproblem

The only updates I don't like are the random back compat ones, Left4Dead 2 got a 500mb update yesterday and I can't for the life of me find any info on why, I was hoping it was getting X1X enhanced but I don't think so. I know they upgrade the emulator constantly which means back compat games update randomly but it's usually a small enough one.