Are You A Bluehat? - The End PG.590

IGM wrote:Me, on the first thursday:

IGM wrote:I think forget the regular posters for a day or 2, it's doing us no favours. When we inevitably lynch another RFM we'll end up with no-one contributing. It's inconceivable that so many of the bluehats are posting all the time that we'd stumble across one, so it's time to start looking elsewhere before the game is emptied of regulars.

I'm gonna go up for People's Mod today, on the basis of picking 2 semi-inactives. My 2 candidates are RED and BANJO.

Red has been hovering around posting "just back from..." posts without really contributing. Along with Banjo, a lot of posts about nothing very much, except how long the topic is, stuff like that. Red did ask about the rules a couple of times, but also posted about how previous werewolf games were organised, which is confusing.

Banjo has started posting a bit better, but again to start with was always popping up to complain about the thread without adding anything. He popped in late on to vote for Hexx instead of pyxl for PM giving the jokey reason of not wanting to see pyxl get "drunk with power" or something, only to say a post later that he didn't know what pyxl's plans were anyway.

If people agree with my choices, vote me in. If anyone has any thoughts on who they would go for I am willing to listen before I decide, post in the thread or pm, whatever your preference. But for now, those are my 2.

I think we're being played, and that the bluehats are hardly posting, leaving us fighting amongst ourselves. I do think the anung stuff is credible, but then again we've thought that about half the folk we've banned! (If the vigi were to take him out some time soon we might get rid of the distraction. )

I just want to give us another option in the vote as I think all the candidates will be pretty similar in approach. If we don't get a bluehat under my PMship, at least we haven't got rid of another major contributor.

Damn you guys and your "gates".

Well done the surviving players, shame about the last bluehat, would have been very interesting as I don't think he had even been mentioned in the last few days before the end. I thoroughly enjoyed both participating and then just reading the thread. Good work TAP.

I blame Rog for focusing on the gates. I was completely for ignoring them all.

I don't know how I managed to wrangle my way out of that one!

Mori, still straggling for that glory?

SpaceJebus wrote:

Karlprof wrote:

aaronayl1 wrote:Oh, and Jebus towards the end fed me theories which were instrumental in gaining trust and indeed getting me mayorship.

Why, yes, you're welcome. Don't mention it.

The only name you gave me was Sykes which you also gave to Aaron.

I like to think you came together initially because of the common Sykes cause -- not that I would claim credit for anything you achieved, of course! I was mostly kidding.

abcd wrote:I stand by everything that Parksey said.

Banjo wrote::lol:

I don't know how I managed to wrangle my way out of that one!

Mori, still straggling for that glory?

That was purely self-preservation sunshine. Somehow I had got involved in all of them.

Memento Mori wrote:I blame Rog for focusing on the gates. I was completely for ignoring them all.

It was those gates that got me killed.

One thing I've learned from this one - if you're a RFM, don't do anything until about a week in if you want to survive.

JK wrote:

Memento Mori wrote:I blame Rog for focusing on the gates. I was completely for ignoring them all.

It was those gates that got me killed.

One thing I've learned from this one - if you're a RFM, don't do anything until about a week in if you want to survive.

Yeah because despite my best efforts no one went with my inactive plan. Look at the final list of Bluehats. How many of them were posting regular at the start? not many.

We were so glad no one was listening to you Daz.

Banjo wrote:We were so glad no one was listening to you Daz.

Remember this for next time.

And watch, next time I'll be a Seer.

I'm not sure I'll survive long next time. Drumstick's already told me I'll be dead if he gets the chance straight away.

I've played in three of these games now....

This game would rank 2nd on the list. Mostly because I was the alpha in my first game.

Memento Mori wrote:I blame Rog for focusing on the gates. I was completely for ignoring them all.

Huh? You wanted Anung dead too if I recall.

Thanks TAP for organising the game and I agree with all of your rule changes as they did keep it well balanced overall.

As it was my first AYA game I played very badly at the start. I was pretty confident Pyxl-8 was telling the truth so I revealed myself to him without even seering him first. Luckily my instinct was right but it was an unnecessary risk that I shouldn't have taken. I also posted much more than I should have and was too supportive of pyxl-8 so I'm not surprised I was a suspect from day 1.

I'll certainly play the game differently next time.

Just out of interest, was I killed for a specific reason or just general usefulness?

It was a relief not to be either suspected by the RFMs for being extremely helpful and speaking common sense, like last time. Plus, all of my PM contacts turned out to be good, honest people. Even if I wasn't necessarily in PMs back to them. It was all for the greater good.

As for the Chalkitdown EAS switch, though it was a bit of a sly move, I can totally understand why TAP did it - the game would have practically been over before it even begun. It just wouldn't be AYAW if the villagers/RFMs weren't under the cosh for at least a week. And, let's be honest, it's just as much fun when we're totally inept and clueless as it is when we're a bunch of ruthlessly organised lynching mo-fos.

There'd have been no real tension, suspicion or suspense if the EAS had gone on the very first day. It would have been a megaton of motherfluffing proportions and a legendary AYAW moment, but the game would have just fizzled out. We wouldn't have had all those lovely ___-gates either, which just distracted us from the bluehats. As I said at the time. It turns out most, if not all, of the wolves, we're just playing extremely safe and not tangibly connected to anyone at all.

Oh, and as tempting as it is to have Noes as MVP, he was just a puppet for the Mighty Final Zenigame - Zenigame. When Sat and Kil were banned, I was in despair at, yet again, losing Seers so early (just out of interest, did anyone give them away or was it luck?). I thought it was only a matter of time before the last Zeni cast his net too widely and slipped up. But, all credit to him, he was extremely careful and it was a real shock to find out his identity on D(eceased)-Day. It really was the moment when we stormed the beaches of the tyrannical bluehats.

In hindsight, I can see why it affected the delicate balance of the game. Being dead but able to speak and post as normal is a huge advantage, both for the resurrected and the other members playing. It removes the tiny element of doubt that should always remain. Saying that, at the time, the RFMs were so down on their luck, can you blame us for grasping it with both hands? Once we were in contact with Zeni and Drawlight, we were able to feed him information and suspicions free of doubt and it was this, and the fact he survived another week or so, that turned the game. I don't think anyone took Sykes seriously as a bluehat, about from me, KP and Aaron, until we'd got in contact with Zeni.

Once we had the hack results being made public through Noes, it was only a matter of time, though we did well to pick the right people to be Seered.

So, he's the MVP. Noes gets his badge as most successful mayor, though.

We should all learn an important lesson for next time - namely, that all the crazy conspiracy theories in the thread, and the melters behind them are usually just dead-ends and RFMs.

And the Vigilantes suck, but that's just as per.

And thanks to TAP for running it. I wasted a huge amount of time reading and posting while I was alive, and even kept up to date with the thread when I wasn't. I've still died in all three AYAW I've played though.

The only slight niggle with the running I can think of, is that I'm not sure whether it's better knowing how many special roles are out there, and what they are. There are probably arguments for both sides, mind.

We probably should have paid a higher price for allowing the dead to return for a day, like having a dozen people be sacrificed rather than just the three that were.

Parksey wrote: And the Vigilantes suck, but that's just as per.

Maybe Huw, but i dont think i had the opportunity to play the role. You are 2/3 wrong in this statement. I still think the BHs got incredibly lucky with me and Pancake. I cant speak wholey for pancake, but as far as i can tell both me and pancake did very few things to give away our roles. The number of people inthread screaming for a vigilante kill was massive, and i dont blame Pancake for bowing to the pressure. All i could do was try and sit tight and wait for a seering or an alliance. and that didnt come.

What is the best way to play for a vigilante?

mcjihge2 wrote:

Parksey wrote: And the Vigilantes suck, but that's just as per.

Maybe Huw, but i dont think i had the opportunity to play the role. You are 2/3 wrong in this statement. I still think the BHs got incredibly lucky with me and Pancake. I cant speak wholey for pancake, but as far as i can tell both me and pancake did very few things to give away our roles. The number of people inthread screaming for a vigilante kill was massive, and i dont blame Pancake for bowing to the pressure. All i could do was try and sit tight and wait for a seering or an alliance. and that didnt come.

What is the best way to play for a vigilante?

By not shooting that automatically made you the best Vigi we have had!

Cuttooth wrote:We probably should have paid a higher price for allowing the dead to return for a day, like having a dozen people be sacrificed rather than just the three that were.

I really thought that we would risk losing public bannings for a short while and the length would be determined by how many BHs we nominated to help. I did briefly suspect Dalax based on him not being killed by the machine but I turned away from that again when I started to focus on the KP vs Henke election.

Lucien wrote:Zenigame... I can't speak for others here, but I really thought if the roles were random, and if Zenigame became a Zenigame... TAP would have changed his role so as to avoid calls of... 'You did that on purpose!' I never wanted him gone for that reason, purely his name.

But then it wouldn't have been random, would it? Catch-22 situation.