Are You Infected? Day Fourteen - Emperor BID0

PostDan's Sad Vote Loss Song by **Herdanos** » Tue Jul 28, 2015 1:59 pm

Preezy wrote:Yeah sorry pal I was only messing. I vote for Karl as originally stated.

♫ Dammit Preezy I thought it'd be easy ♪
♪ I didn't expect for you to come and tease me ♫
♫ I thought I was a certainty to become mayor ♪
♪ But now you've gone and voted for him over there

♫

PostRe: Are You Infected? Day Three by **Edd** » Tue Jul 28, 2015 2:00 pm

I vote Dan for that #tight rap

PostRe: Are You Infected? Day Three by **Preezy** » Tue Jul 28, 2015 2:01 pm

Next time you'll get my vote.

PostRe: Are You Infected? Day Three by **Moggy** » Tue Jul 28, 2015 2:02 pm

You have all spoken and have elected KARL as leader.

Karl has until 6pm to send me the name of the accused. Remember I can only accept your first PM, you will be unable to amend it once sent. Failure to get the name to me by 6pm will result in no execution.

PostRe: Are You Infected? Day Three by **BID0** » Tue Jul 28, 2015 2:03 pm

Vote 28/07 wrote:Karl (Karl's Mystery Box: 4.7% is better than 0%) (13)
Cora, Falsey, Shadow, Super Dragon 64, Rightey, PuppetBoy, Errkal, cuttooth! Fatdaz, Tomous, Irene, Preezy, Roonmater

Drumstick (Cheeky Devlin) (5)
Ironhide, satriales, Rhubarb, SparkyRobinson, BID0

Cheeky Devlin (Rik, Cora or Karl) (1)
Yaoi

Dan (Moggy) (2)
Qikz, Pancake

Not that it'll make much difference but I throw my vote behind Drumstick.

While we need to kill the alpha to win the game, it's imperative to keep the infected numbers down while we do so to give us more time. Devlin is acting up.

Corazon de Leon

BID0 wrote:
Vote 28/07 wrote:Karl (Karl's Mystery Box: 4.7% is better than 0%) (13)
Cora, Falsey, Shadow, Super Dragon 64, Rightey, PuppetBoy, Errkal, cuttooth! Fatdaz, Tomous, Irene, Preezy, Roonmater

Drumstick (Cheeky Devlin) (5)
Ironhide, satriales, Rhubarb, SparkyRobinson, BID0

Cheeky Devlin (Rik, Cora or Karl) (1)
Yaoi

Dan (Moggy) (2)
Qikz, Pancake

Not that it'll make much difference but I throw my vote behind Drumstick.

While we need to kill the alpha to win the game, it's imperative to keep the infected numbers down while we do so to give us more time. Devlin is acting up.

It definitely doesn't make any difference now seeing as the mayor was elected in the post above yours. :lol:

How many players are there in the game overall(including dead people), 66?

PostRe: Are You Infected? Day Three by **Rhubarb** » Tue Jul 28, 2015 2:06 pm

Is there a reason the Forum clock is 5 mins fast? I've only just noticed it

PostRe: Are You Infected? Day Three by **BID0** » Tue Jul 28, 2015 2:07 pm

Corazon de Leon wrote:
BID0 wrote:
Vote 28/07 wrote:Karl (Karl's Mystery Box: 4.7% is better than 0%) (13)
Cora, Falsey, Shadow, Super Dragon 64, Rightey, PuppetBoy, Errkal, cuttooth! Fatdaz, Tomous, Irene, Preezy, Roonmater

Drumstick (Cheeky Devlin) (5)
Ironhide, satriales, Rhubarb, SparkyRobinson, BID0

Cheeky Devlin (Rik, Cora or Karl) (1)
Yaoi

Dan (Moggy) (2)
Qikz, Pancake

Not that it'll make much difference but I throw my vote behind Drumstick.

While we need to kill the alpha to win the game, it's imperative to keep the infected numbers down while we do so to give us more time. Devlin is acting up.

It definitely doesn't make any difference now seeing as the mayor was elected in the post above yours.

How many players are there in the game overall(including dead people), 66?

I'm a slow typer.. and also...

Rhubarb wrote:Is there a reason the Forum clock is 5 mins fast? I've only just noticed it

This. I think the answer is because we are on Mars and the days go by faster.

This martian sand gets everywhere :roll:

Karl, time to execute order 66

Falsey wrote:Karl, time to execute order 66

Has Zartan posted at all since everything kicked off?

Just caught up and I loved Dan's post :lol:

I would have voted for Karl had I been here in time, and I think his plan is a good one, but I don't think he'll get any info worth killing himself over so we should stick to the random plan.

I also agree that maybe we should aim to still get all the key cards together, while it may be our doom it's the only strategy we have that isn't just spending the next few weeks hoping that we'll get lucky on an alpha kill, no? Unless there's some really good special role we don't know yet, but waiting for such a thing is a similar gamble, and I think we should be pro-active where possible.

Here's a thought.

Moggy wrote:The player list is in the spoiler below - I will update this as and when people die.

Parksey
Ironhide
Psychicsykes
Satriales
Errkal
Met
Dan.
Nun
BIDO
That’s not a growth
Cheeky Devlin
Chris
Kanbei
jawafour
Rightey
Kezzer
Cribs
LewisD
Super Dragon 64
Joer
Oblomov Boblomov
Sparky Robinson
Minty14
Roonmastor
Karl
Clarkman
Pedz
Shadow
Pancake
DayumChris xD
Rocsteady
Cuttooth
PaperMacheMario
Yaoihslanded
Tomous
~~1cmanny1~~ - Dead (was an uninfected Human)
TAP
Hank Scorpio
Dangerblade
Rhubarb
Jiggles
Mcjihge2
PuppetBoy
Preezy
Hyperion
JChalmers
abcd
Albear
Falsey
Corazon de Leon
Riksilver
Zartan
Diabolito
Euan707
Drumstick
DML
FatDaz
Irene Demova
Mini E
Curls
Delusibeta
Zellery
Denster
Edd
Qikz
Furiosum

This differs from the signup list. Why?

Let's take a look at Karl's megapost from earlier (the content not relevant here has been spoilered for post size):

Karl wrote:
IMO the protection cycle won't work because infected vigilantes will slowly kill you all.

Anyway, it's that time again.

==

Firstly, I'd like to thank Cora, Falsey and Preezy for giving me independent accounts of events and answering my pedantic questions. Although I was careful to make sure I didn't request information that would have been of use even were I infected (now or later), it still takes some trust - at least in my ability to produce a logical megaton at the end! - to spend several hours working closely with someone on something like this. Thanks for that, chaps.

I just wanted to say that I personally think it is unlikely that any of Cora, Falsey, Preezy or Riksilver are lying. But this is about producing something more solid than gut feeling, so let's crack on.

Here's everything that was said between the people who have claimed to be immune as they came forward to each other and to us. The fact that they talked amongst themselves made it difficult to trace the transfer of information through the system, but I think we've nailed it all down and made some sound inferences about who could conceivably lying and who is beyond doubt.

I have edited their role names to BRAVO and CHARLIE but both role names amounted to "the alpha can't hurt me".

==
Timeline of information transfer:
Falsey says hi to Preezy and Cora [no information content].
Preezy says 'CHARLIE' to Cora [Cora could verify Preezy].
Cora says 'BRAVO' to Preezy [Preezy could verify Cora].
Preezy says 'CHARLIE' to Falsey [Falsey could verify Preezy].
Preezy says that Cora is 'BRAVO' to Falsey [Falsey could surrogate-verify Cora].
Falsey says 'BRAVO' to Preezy after learning of the role title ['BRAVO' mentioned twice, but dependently] [no information content].
Preezy says 'CHARLIE' and fluff to Karl [Karl could super-verify Preezy].
Preezy says that Cora is 'BRAVO' to Karl [Karl could surrogate-verify Cora].
Riksilver says 'BRAVO' and fluff to Karl, Cora, Falsey ['BRAVO' mentioned twice independently: is a real role] [Karl, Cora, Falsey could super-verify Riksilver].
Cora confirms fluff to Karl after seeing it ['BRAVO' fluff mentioned twice, but dependently] [no information content].
Falsey confirms fluff to Karl after seeing Cora's confirmation ['BRAVO' fluff mentioned thrice, but dependently: fluff must be real] [no information content].
Inferences we can make from this chain of events:
There is no way Riksilver could have had the 'BRAVO' fluff without being legitimate, and this has been independently verified. Riksilver is super-legitimate.
Cora had the correct role title 'BRAVO' and this has been independently verified. Cora is legitimate.
I personally trust Falsey because he brought this group together and I don't think he is acting at all like an infected would, but he was too cagey and too reactive in the information he gave to be verified retrospectively. Falsey is unknown.
We've only seen Preezy's role name 'CHARLIE' come up once. I don't suspect him because the fluff he gave me was convincing, but this process cannot verify him. Preezy is unknown.
Albear is a chancing sod, but was probably only joking. Up yours, Albear.
Zartan is a chancing sod, and we need to ask serious questions about why he would claim publicly and then disappear without engaging in this process. Zartan is suspicious.

==

Key-holders, vial-holders, scientists: you have three people - Preezy, Falsey and Cora - that can verify that entire chain of events as I presented it, and one further - Riksilver - who can verify the part at the end. It is impossible for us all to be infected.

If you think our logic is sound, please contact Corazon de Leon and Riksilver and await further instructions.

Do not contact me. I know nothing and no-one and could be turned at any moment.

So we know that Cora and Riksilver have the same special role name, "Bravo".

They're also next to one another in the player list in the OP.

Why is Moggy's player list in the OP different from the final player list in the signup thread?

Perhaps the OP list is the order names were drawn from the hat?

Now, I know this is a stretch, but on the off-chance that Moggy didn't randomise the names again after drawing the roles (which would explain why Cora and Riksilver, both "Bravo" roles, are listed next to one another) then let's assume that this is the order the names were drawn from Moggy's theoretical hat, and he went through the roles in turn (so he drew out all the vigis, then all the scientists, then all the Bravos, etc.)

In which case, might you expect the big 'un - the Alpha - to be drawn either at the very start, or the very end?

Again, this is unlikely, but given Riksilver and Cora are definitely next to one another in that list, might this not give us a better chance than the current odds of pure randomness? In which case, Parksey (top of the list) and Furiosum (bottom of the list) might be worth our attention?

That would be an incredibly massive oversight that only very new hosts would even have the chance of committing

it might just work

kill them both

I randomised the sign up thread list (and missed a couple of people off and edited them back in :fp:

), sorted them alphabetically, assigned roles based on a random number generator (using their numbers on an Excel spreadsheet) and then used the RAND() function to further randomise them on the spreadsheet before posting the list in the game thread.

Moggy wrote:I randomised the sign up thread list (and missed a couple of people off and edited them back in ), sorted them alphabetically, assigned roles based on a random number generator (using their numbers on an Excel spreadsheet) and then used the RAND() function to further randomise them on the spreadsheet before posting the list in the game thread.

That sounds plausible - but then again, you're our Vanuatu-based overlord who's still trying to peddle this Mars story. I'm onto you. :captainpointy:

Dan. wrote:
Moggy wrote:I randomised the sign up thread list (and missed a couple of people off and edited them back in ), sorted them alphabetically, assigned roles based on a random number generator (using their numbers on an Excel spreadsheet) and then used the RAND() function to further randomise them on the spreadsheet before posting the list in the game thread.

That sounds plausible - but then again, you're our Vanuatu-based overlord who's still trying to peddle this Mars story. I'm onto you. :captainpointy:

You missed your chance to kill me today, any further attempts to kill me will result in you being sent to Jupiter.

I dont want to say this, but I think we have a problem here.

Im looking in the block of names here.

Preezy
Hyperion
JChalmers
abcd
Albear
Falsey
Corazon de Leon
Riksilver
Zartan
Diabolito
Zartan
Diabolito
Euan707
Drumstick
DML
FatDaz

Blue names are players I know to either definately have a power or am 99% sure.
Green are players who have claimed here or in PM that they have a role. Preezy and Daz might be a logical stretch, but I think there is a group in here that might hold some friendlies and our potential infected scientist.

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