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Catholic
10
8%
Protestant
5
4%
Buddhist
2
2%
Sikh
0
No votes
Muslim
4
3%
Jewish
2
2%
Hindu
1
1%
Agnostic
25
20%
No (Atheist)
58
47%
Pastafarian
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3%
Jedi?
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10%
 
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PostRe: Are you religious?
by Saigon Slick » Sat Sep 05, 2009 12:39 am

Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve! :lol:

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PostRe: Are you religious?
by Fm » Sat Sep 05, 2009 12:41 am

blackoutHERO wrote:It's very easy to point out what's 'wrong' with religion.


Yes, yes it is. :smug:

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PostRe: Are you religious?
by Pacman » Sat Sep 05, 2009 1:14 am

Religion is the result of man yearning for an all-powerful father figure :idea:

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PostRe: Are you religious?
by blackoutHERO » Sat Sep 05, 2009 2:33 am

Fine, you all win. I am now atheist, MON THE SCIENCE.

That Darwin dude eh? Great guy. And what about that big bang? Awesome stuff.

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PostRe: Are you religious?
by Fm » Sat Sep 05, 2009 2:37 am

In that case it's only fair I convert to Christianity to keep the numbers even.

Hey, how about that eating the body and drinking the blood of Christ? I am all about that.

Nice Jesusy flesh. Om nom nom.

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PostRe: Are you religious?
by blackoutHERO » Sat Sep 05, 2009 2:38 am

Fm wrote:In that case it's only fair I convert to Christianity to keep the numbers even.

Hey, how about that eating the body and drinking the blood of Christ? I am all about that.

Nice Jesusy flesh. Om nom nom.


o/

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PostRe: Are you religious?
by Fm » Sat Sep 05, 2009 2:40 am

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PostRe: Are you religious?
by blackoutHERO » Sat Sep 05, 2009 2:43 am

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PostRe: Are you religious?
by Donner » Sat Sep 05, 2009 2:50 am

Not sure if I've posted this before...but anyway:

I do believe there is something like a god-alike person but I just don't follow any of religious beliefs at all; nor I don't feel any need to pray/something. Just go "Oh yeah, god might exist after all" and that's it.

I'm not sure what this makes me, so I just say I'm Agonestic..if that's even right term?

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PostRe: Are you religious?
by blackoutHERO » Sat Sep 05, 2009 2:51 am

Seven wrote:Not sure if I've posted this before...but anyway:

I do believe there is something like a god-alike person but I just don't follow any of religious beliefs at all; nor I don't feel any need to pray/something. Just go "Oh yeah, god might exist after all" and that's it.

I'm not sure what this makes me, so I just say I'm Agonestic..if that's even right term?


I think so. As far as I'm aware Agnostic is the belief of some higher being but not know what it is.

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PostRe: Are you religious?
by Xeno » Sat Sep 05, 2009 10:10 am

I am an Atheistic Agnostic

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PostRe: Are you religious?
by lex-man » Sat Sep 05, 2009 10:25 am

blackoutHERO wrote:
Seven wrote:Not sure if I've posted this before...but anyway:

I do believe there is something like a god-alike person but I just don't follow any of religious beliefs at all; nor I don't feel any need to pray/something. Just go "Oh yeah, god might exist after all" and that's it.

I'm not sure what this makes me, so I just say I'm Agonestic..if that's even right term?


I think so. As far as I'm aware Agnostic is the belief of some higher being but not know what it is.


An Agnostic is someone who doesn't know one way or another. I.E fifty percent believe 50% don't, or at least round about that number.

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PostRe: Are you religious?
by Tell Karl his brother is dead » Sat Sep 05, 2009 10:51 am

Fm wrote::smug:


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PostRe: Are you religious?
by Tell Karl his brother is dead » Sat Sep 05, 2009 10:54 am

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PostRe: Are you religious?
by Oblomov Boblomov » Sat Sep 05, 2009 5:19 pm

blackoutHERO wrote:Fine, you all win. I am now atheist, MON THE SCIENCE.

That Darwin dude eh? Great guy. And what about that big bang? Awesome stuff.


It doesn't concern you in the slightest that your reasoning doesn't stand up to even a small amount of questioning? I would feel like a right twat if I went around believing something that could be shaken so much by the intellect of your average bloke. Not that I'm calling you a twat, it's just how I would feel. If you want to go around in cuckoo land then that's your business and I'm glad it makes you happy. I can't say I wouldn't welcome this gift of faith that you have; I'm not going to lie, the fact that one day I will be dead and my existence will cease to exist completely scares the crap out of me.

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PostRe: Are you religious?
by Carlos » Sun Sep 06, 2009 12:21 am

lex-man wrote:
Carlos wrote:
MCN wrote:
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Balloon Sod wrote:When I was a Christian as a teenager, I never set out to stop beleving in God. It just sort of happened, as it was entirely incompatible with everything else.


When I was an atheist teenage, I never set out to start believing in God. It just happened ;)


So you're willing to put your gut feeling over the wealth of actual, tangible evidence against any creation or design? And we're not allowed to call that silly?

Oh, of course, it's religion, therefore it is above reproach.


I really wanted to avoid this arguement and I really do hate to be pendantic but there isn't any tangible evidence to suggest the the universe wasn't created by something or someone (God, Galactus, Unicron, Steve etc) but there is tangible evidence that creationism and the biblical creation story is false.

Fact is we will never know what created the universe. For all I know it was Steve jump starting the big bang from his fiesta.


But surely Atheists are saying "I don't really know what created the universe", while religious people are giving a definitive answer "it was god".
As an Atheist my position is that there is no evidence to prove one way or the other what created the universe and anyone who gives an answer is just making stuff up and is therefore, in all likely-hood wrong.


The answer most atheists would give is 'i couldn't give a toss. gooseberry fool happens'

I think of it scientifically: as far as the rigid, set in stone laws of physics are concerned it impossible for anything on our level of comprehension to create or obliterate matter. When an object is destroyed it is merely broken down into it's constituent parts; it cannot be removed from existence. The laws of thermodynamics state that energy cannot be created, merely transformed from one form into another.
Assumig the laws of physics are true you cannot create something from nothing and so either the collective matter in the universe has ALWAYS existed, which cannot be true, as the only universal constant is death and there will be a time when all the stars have ceased to exist and if the universe has an end it must have had a beginning or a being beyond our realm of comprehension created it. This being could be described as God, but it could just as well be something else, or even a collective, like the Q.

So either something created the universe, or it has always been here since time immemorial.

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PostRe: Are you religious?
by Skarjo » Sun Sep 06, 2009 12:26 am

I've never understood why some religiouss folk have such a problem with all the matter in the universe having always existed for infinity, always citing that it must have come from somewhere or other cutely naive statements, but then have absolutely no problem at all accepting unquestioningly that God has done just that, and has always existed and was not created by anybody. In fact, to apply the exact same logic that seems to be so difficult when dealing with matter; that 'it must have been created by something' to their deity is often quite insulting to them.

It's amusing in it's own little way.

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PostRe: Are you religious?
by EberKneesUp » Sun Sep 06, 2009 12:27 am

Carlos wrote:Assumig the laws of physics are true you cannot create something from nothing and so either the collective matter in the universe has ALWAYS existed, which cannot be true, as the only universal constant is death and there will be a time when all the stars have ceased to exist and if the universe has an end it must have had a beginning or a being beyond our realm of comprehension created it. This being could be described as God, but it could just as well be something else, or even a collective, like the Q.

Why can it not be true that the universe has always existed? Time itself is essentially nothing more than a construct of man. Events happen, and some will occur more frequently than other events, but it's man who invented the concept of measuring these frequencies, devising timekeeping, and with it beginnings and ends. Saying the only universal constant is death is irrelevant. It applies only to living things, but not all matter is living. We may die, the stars may burn out, but the matter that comprises everything will still exist, so the universe may never have an end.

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PostRe: Are you religious?
by Donk » Sun Sep 06, 2009 12:29 am

The universe has NOT always existed though. It began.

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PostRe: Are you religious?
by EberKneesUp » Sun Sep 06, 2009 12:32 am

Donk wrote:The universe has NOT always existed though. It began.

What's that claim based on?


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