Arrested Development - Renewed for Season 5!

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by Winckle » Thu May 17, 2018 11:14 am

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by Moggy » Thu May 17, 2018 11:20 am

Winckle wrote:Mid season breaks can strawberry float the strawberry float off.

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by Poser » Thu May 17, 2018 1:05 pm

Garth wrote:Will definitely watch the remix, I'm really intrigued to see how well it works.



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by Jenuall » Thu May 17, 2018 1:09 pm

I've started re-watching from season 1 to prepare for the arrival of 5. It's nice to go back to the start and remember just how great it actually was, particularly the first two seasons.

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by SillySprout » Mon May 21, 2018 7:58 am

Kezzer wrote:Part way through the season 4 remix... not too sure about it. It feels like it is taking the piss out of itself.

And because now there aren't individual story lines, each episode has to repeat itself.


I am yet to watch the remix. Looking forward to it, although as per 99% of the fanbase, think it was poor by AD standards.

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by Tafdolphin » Mon May 21, 2018 8:14 am

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Kezzer wrote:Part way through the season 4 remix... not too sure about it. It feels like it is taking the piss out of itself.

And because now there aren't individual story lines, each episode has to repeat itself.


I am yet to watch the remix. Looking forward to it, although as per 99% of the fanbase, think it was poor by AD standards.


I mentioned this before but I could have forgiven it the lack of funny if it had carried over the spirit of the original series. But where they were affectionate and lighthearted, season 4 was mean and callous. It was just...nasty. Almost every plot revolved around the characters doing something irredeemable: Michael being an absolute dick to his son, Lindsay being a genuinely abusive parent and spouse, Tobias becoming a drug-addict, George Snr almost killing his brother and Jobe getting involved in date rape. It was actually depressing to watch.

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PostRe: Arrested Development - Renewed for Season 5!
by Poser » Mon May 21, 2018 8:27 am

Did the first three episodes of the remix last night. It's definitely a bit disjointed, but it was still making me laugh quite a lot, which is, I guess, what matters.

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by Jenuall » Mon May 21, 2018 1:09 pm

Tafdolphin wrote:
SillySprout wrote:
Kezzer wrote:Part way through the season 4 remix... not too sure about it. It feels like it is taking the piss out of itself.

And because now there aren't individual story lines, each episode has to repeat itself.


I am yet to watch the remix. Looking forward to it, although as per 99% of the fanbase, think it was poor by AD standards.


I mentioned this before but I could have forgiven it the lack of funny if it had carried over the spirit of the original series. But where they were affectionate and lighthearted, season 4 was mean and callous. It was just...nasty. Almost every plot revolved around the characters doing something irredeemable: Michael being an absolute dick to his son, Lindsay being a genuinely abusive parent and spouse, Tobias becoming a drug-addict, George Snr almost killing his brother and Jobe getting involved in date rape. It was actually depressing to watch.


Whilst I would agree that there is definitely more of a hard edge to things in S4 - the Bluth's have always been pretty blatant about how shitty they are to each other. For example Lindsay and Tobias were dicks to Maeby right from the start - forgetting she even existed most of the time, and Lucille is constantly abusive towards her children - Lindsay in particular being emotionally put down at every opportunity, and even in S1 she crashes her car and gives Michael concussion (and then continues to hit him on the head after the fact) all because of her own selfishness.

There's clearly just a delicate balance about the way these things are handled that collapsed a bit during S4!

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by Tafdolphin » Mon May 21, 2018 1:13 pm

Yeah, it was always cruel but it an almost slapstick way. There were bits in 4 that were borderline disturbing, like Tobias' weird obsession with a poor junkie who just wants to be left alone, and Lindsay constantly debasing herself with a weird homeless guy. You're right in that, out of context, some bits from the first 3 could be seen as just as bad, but the way they were done here was just...weird.

Also, Michael straight up becomes a pathetic maggot of a man for some reason.

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by Karl » Mon May 21, 2018 1:17 pm

I think S4 lacked nuance in the same way that S10+ of The Simpsons does. Homer was always a shitty dad, but he was (in some hard-to-define way) a lovably shitty dad in the early seasons - probably in part because he had occasional moments of introspection - rather than the uniformly hateful oaf he became in the latter seasons.

I watched the first couple of episodes of S4.5 and it's certainly funnier, but still has the core problem of the characters being a lot less likeable.

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by Jenuall » Mon May 21, 2018 1:31 pm

I could take Michael becoming a maggot as a result of a lifetime of dealing with the rest of his terrible family - but even then I don't think they handled that very well, it could be a goldmine for humour if they took advantage of it right.

I know it's always been Mitch Hurwitz who is the driving force behind the show, but does anyone know how consistent the group of writers has been between S1-3 and S4/5?

The Simpsons comparison is an interesting one Karl, I think there is some similarity to what happened there - although after 200 odd episodes it's more forgivable that standards slipped than it is in the case of AD. Again I think most people agree that the slow exodus of writing talent is one of the things that did the Simpsons in - I do wonder whether its a similar situation here, I can't imagine they got back all the same writers when S4 returned.

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