The Terrorism Discussion Thread

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by Moggy » Sat Dec 24, 2016 9:44 pm

SilentRight wrote:Hmmm if only there were some sort of middle ground between some sort of underfunded prison run by a for profit entity, and just letting these people go when they arrive in Europe and hoping that they leave when they are asked to.

Too bad such a thing us impossible right?


You brought up the Australian system, have a look into it, it's far more troubling than just being an "underfunded prison".

If people come to Europe and are accepted as immigrants or asylum seekers, why shouldn't they be allowed to be "just let go"? Fleeing persecution is not a crime and the vast vast vast majority are decent people that are just looking for safety.

Of course you have a tiny minority that are not decent people. I'd agree they should be locked up/deported. Mistakes will always be made, people will slip through cracks and bad gooseberry fool will happen. The fear that seems to grip so many people is misfounded though, you are not very likely to be hurt or killed by an asylum seeker, to throw away our humanity (as per the Aussie system) out of cowardly paranoia is far worse (imo) than accepting a tiny risk that a bad guy will slip through.
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PostRe: The Terrorism Discussion Thread
by Rightey » Sun Dec 25, 2016 2:43 am

Partridge Iciclebubbles wrote:
SilentRight wrote:Hmmm if only there were some sort of middle ground between some sort of underfunded prison run by a for profit entity, and just letting these people go when they arrive in Europe and hoping that they leave when they are asked to.

Too bad such a thing us impossible right?


You brought up the Australian system, have a look into it, it's far more troubling than just being an "underfunded prison".

If people come to Europe and are accepted as immigrants or asylum seekers, why shouldn't they be allowed to be "just let go"? Fleeing persecution is not a crime and the vast vast vast majority are decent people that are just looking for safety.

Of course you have a tiny minority that are not decent people. I'd agree they should be locked up/deported. Mistakes will always be made, people will slip through cracks and bad gooseberry fool will happen. The fear that seems to grip so many people is misfounded though, you are not very likely to be hurt or killed by an asylum seeker, to throw away our humanity (as per the Aussie system) out of cowardly paranoia is far worse (imo) than accepting a tiny risk that a bad guy will slip through.


No one is saying they shouldn't be let go if they are accepted as refugees, I was saying they should be held until their status is determined. This guy arrived and was let go, he then committed arson, then got sent to prison and was let go again! Then they determined he wasn't really a refugee and surprise surprise he didn't just pack his bags and go home.

If you show up on someones doorstep I don't think it's really unreasonable for them to try and determine just who you are first before they let you in to their home.
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PostRe: The Terrorism Discussion Thread
by BID0 » Sun Dec 25, 2016 11:33 am

Seems like an awful lot of money to do it, something that no country has right now. All to possibly catch 1 in thousands upon thousands of people.

And where do you stop, a lot of terrorism is home grown anyway.
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by <]:^D » Sun Dec 25, 2016 12:11 pm

Rightey, read some articles first.

this OZ system is apparently spending ~350,000 p/a on each refugee/immigrant whatever, all while running an awful system where they cant even talk to the immigrants (apparently using google translate in a lot of cases). we do have a better, currently existing system which is still pretty inhumane (immigrant detention centres) so im not sure what you're asking for?
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PostRe: The Terrorism Discussion Thread
by KK » Fri Jan 06, 2017 7:17 pm

Not sure if domestic or otherwise...

BBC News wrote:"Multiple people" have been shot dead by a lone gunman at Fort Lauderdale airport in Florida, say officials.

The airport said there was an "ongoing incident" at the baggage claim area in Terminal 2.

There were several people dead and one person in custody, Broward Sheriff's office said in a tweet.

Hundreds of people were standing on the tarmac as dozens of police cars and ambulances rushed to the scene.
Police received a call just before 1300 local time (1800 GMT) about shots fired at Terminal Drive.

Former White House Press Secretary Ari Fleischer said in a tweet: "I'm at the Ft. Lauderdale Airport. Shots have been fired. Everyone is running."

A Miami TV station tweeted footage claiming to be filmed from inside the baggage terminal.

The video shows several injured people laying on the floor, as witnesses shout for medical help.

Florida Governor Rick Scott is travelling to the airport to be briefed by law enforcement.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-38535699
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PostRe: The Terrorism Discussion Thread
by Kezzer » Fri Jan 06, 2017 10:39 pm

If only the luggage had guns :cry:
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by NickSCFC » Fri Jan 06, 2017 10:40 pm

Moggy's fingers crossed for a white middle-aged NRA member....

sorry, no cigar

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by Irene Demova » Fri Jan 06, 2017 10:47 pm

NickSCFC wrote:Moggy's fingers crossed for a white middle-aged NRA member....

sorry, no cigar

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After a shooting nobody has their fingers crossed for anything outside of hoping the injured pull through you horrible point scoring banana split.
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PostRe: The Terrorism Discussion Thread
by Knoyleo » Fri Jan 06, 2017 10:47 pm

Massively inappropriate, Nick.
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PostRe: The Terrorism Discussion Thread
by Karl » Fri Jan 06, 2017 10:52 pm

NickSCFC wrote:Moggy's fingers crossed for a white middle-aged NRA member....


Wow, sick burn, great job!

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by Moggy » Fri Jan 06, 2017 10:53 pm

NickSCFC wrote:Moggy's fingers crossed for a white middle-aged NRA member....

sorry, no cigar

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Why are you picking me out?

I understand that your white supremacist nature makes it hard to keep your erection down whenever a brown guy does a bad thing. That's obvious. No need to flame me in the immediate aftermath of a tragedy though.

For what it's worth Nick,I couldn't give a shite whether the murdering scum is white, black, brown, purple or blue. I couldn't give a gooseberry fool if they kill for Jesus, Allah, the NRA, aliens or because girls won't talk to them.

All loss of human life in a murder is tragic, whatever the "cause".
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PostRe: The Terrorism Discussion Thread
by Preezy » Fri Jan 06, 2017 11:09 pm

How's your post working out for you, Nick?
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by Memento Mori » Fri Jan 06, 2017 11:10 pm

Irene Demova wrote:
NickSCFC wrote:Moggy's fingers crossed for a white middle-aged NRA member....

sorry, no cigar

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After a shooting nobody has their fingers crossed for anything outside of hoping the injured pull through you horrible point scoring banana split.


Well not nobody. Right after the Orlando club shooting:

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by Oblomov Boblomov » Sat Jan 07, 2017 10:30 am

Nick is banned :toot: :toot: :toot:
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PostRe: The Terrorism Discussion Thread
by Lotus » Sun Jan 08, 2017 6:32 pm

Another lorry attack, this time in Jerusalem: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-38546740

Hamas describing it as a "heroic act". :fp:
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PostRe: The Terrorism Discussion Thread
by Moggy » Mon Jan 30, 2017 6:56 am

6 dead in a mass shooting in Canada.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-38793071
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PostRe: The Terrorism Discussion Thread
by Rightey » Mon Jan 30, 2017 8:32 am

Moggy wrote:6 dead in a mass shooting in Canada.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-38793071


Apparently it was a 4Chan poster...

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by Return_of_the_STAR » Mon Jan 30, 2017 9:34 am

my gut feeling is that it will be other Muslims who carried out this attack. Which is why the authorities are currently trying to keep their background quiet.
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PostRe: The Terrorism Discussion Thread
by Goker » Mon Jan 30, 2017 10:04 am

You might be right.

http://montreal.ctvnews.ca/shooting-at- ... -1.3262477
One witness described the suspects as two masked men with a Quebecois accent who shouted Allahu Akhbar. He says a bullet just missed him. Inside the mosque people were reading the Koran.


Not confirmed, afaik.
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PostRe: The Terrorism Discussion Thread
by Moggy » Mon Jan 30, 2017 10:25 am

There is always way too much speculation and bullshit flying around after a terrorist attack.

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