The Terrorism Discussion Thread

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by Preezy » Mon Jan 30, 2017 10:28 am

Inside the mosque people were reading the Koran.

You don't say.
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PostRe: The Terrorism Discussion Thread
by Goker » Mon Jan 30, 2017 10:28 am

Yeah, and people trying to push their narratives or waiting to see who died to decide whether or not they can be sad about it. Though I suppose the "bullshit" comment covers those.
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by Moggy » Mon Jan 30, 2017 10:44 am

Goker wrote:Yeah, and people trying to push their narratives or waiting to see who died to decide whether or not they can be sad about it. Though I suppose the "bullshit" comment covers those.


Those of us in the UK, we only really hear about terrorism when it is in a European country, America/Canada or Australia. The news might mention “50 were killed today in Baghdad” but it’s never the top story. I can see why, it does feel like it effects us more when it is a neighbour or a country we have close historic ties to, but it does also feel like those living in Asia or Africa are worth less. I think it also leads to some of the problems we see, we only hear about attacks in France or America and people assume that Muslims are just killing white people, without realising they are very rare events in the West, but almost every day occurrences in the Middle East.
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by SandyCoin » Mon Jan 30, 2017 11:16 am

Moggy wrote:
Goker wrote:Yeah, and people trying to push their narratives or waiting to see who died to decide whether or not they can be sad about it. Though I suppose the "bullshit" comment covers those.


Those of us in the UK, we only really hear about terrorism when it is in a European country, America/Canada or Australia. The news might mention “50 were killed today in Baghdad” but it’s never the top story. I can see why, it does feel like it effects us more when it is a neighbour or a country we have close historic ties to, but it does also feel like those living in Asia or Africa are worth less. I think it also leads to some of the problems we see, we only hear about attacks in France or America and people assume that Muslims are just killing white people, without realising they are very rare events in the West, but almost every day occurrences in the Middle East.


Like you say, because it is a near every day occurrence over in the Middle East it leads to a kind of "ah, again?" attitude in the west. Although I imagine if something happened in say... Japan similar to those in France then Western coverage would be pretty large. In a way it's similar to the gun attacks in USA. Whenever I read a story I'm like "ah, not again". I'm not shocked or surprised by it.

It makes sense in a way in terms of feeling more connected to terrorist attacks in countries that have similar "values" to your own. Doesn't make it right of course, but it makes sense. I assume humans can only intake a certain amount of grief otherwise if we got sad everytime there was any attack on some poor sods around the globe, we would be even more miserable than we are now.

Curious, what is coverage like the other way?
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by Moggy » Mon Jan 30, 2017 11:23 am

SandyCoin wrote:Like you say, because it is a near every day occurrence over in the Middle East it leads to a kind of "ah, again?" attitude in the west. Although I imagine if something happened in say... Japan similar to those in France then Western coverage would be pretty large. In a way it's similar to the gun attacks in USA. Whenever I read a story I'm like "ah, not again". I'm not shocked or surprised by it.


Yeah I guess when something is an almost daily event it ceases to be news. You are right about Japan would probably get lots of coverage, I remember when there were the sarin gas attacks in the subway in Japan and that got plenty of coverage.
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by Goker » Mon Jan 30, 2017 11:49 am

Yeah, I don't blame you guys for that mindset. I'm desensitized towards it all and terror attacks happen regularly in my country. Sometimes I feel these terrorists have over-saturated the news with their activities and it actually doesn't have the same effect it once did.

What actually infuriates me is the stance of the Turkish government and the government supporters. I understand feeling more connected to people that share the same values but there have been many instances of people who were happy that people that don't share the same values as them were killed. Like the ones who were happy that people in a nightclub were gunned down because they were drinking and partying in a nightclub. In any other terror attack, the victims would be called "martyrs" by the government, even if they simply happened to be walking on the sidewalk. The victims of the nightclub attack were simply dead though. A pro-government news site called them "martyrs" for a few hours but they retracted that statement afterwards.

I should also mention that the nightclub attack happened during New Year Celebrations and most pro-government people protested such celebrations, saying "Muslims don't celebrate Christmas" even though New Years is obviously not Christmas.

And don't feel too bad about how you're feeling. Most Turks aren't actually sad over terror attacks that happen in the West. http://www.express.co.uk/sport/football ... ris-attack
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by Moggy » Mon Jan 30, 2017 11:53 am

Goker wrote:Yeah, I don't blame you guys for that mindset. I'm desensitized towards it all and terror attacks happen regularly in my country. Sometimes I feel these terrorists have over-saturated the news with their activities and it actually doesn't have the same effect it once did.

What actually infuriates me is the stance of the Turkish government and the government supporters. I understand feeling more connected to people that share the same values but there have been many instances of people who were happy that people that don't share the same values as them were killed. Like the ones who were happy that people in a nightclub were gunned down because they were drinking and partying in a nightclub. In any other terror attack, the victims would be called "martyrs" by the government, even if they simply happened to be walking on the sidewalk. The victims of the nightclub attack were simply dead though. A pro-government news site called them "martyrs" for a few hours but they retracted that statement afterwards.

I should also mention that the nightclub attack happened during New Year Celebrations and most pro-government people protested such celebrations, saying "Muslims don't celebrate Christmas" even though New Years is obviously not Christmas.

And don't feel too bad about how you're feeling. Most Turks aren't actually sad over terror attacks that happen in the West. http://www.express.co.uk/sport/football ... ris-attack


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by Goker » Mon Jan 30, 2017 12:03 pm

There seems to be a lot of them, more and more countries are being run by horrible banana splits now. :/
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by Moggy » Mon Jan 30, 2017 12:08 pm

Goker wrote:There seems to be a lot of them, more and more countries are being run by horrible banana splits now. :/


France and Holland might be joining that list soon.

It’s odd, by time summer gets here, Theresa May might look like a decent human being when we compare her to the other world leaders. :lol:
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by Monkey Man » Mon Jan 30, 2017 10:56 pm

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Quebec City mosque attack suspect known for right-wing online posts

The suspect in the deadly attack on a Quebec City mosque was known in the city's activist circles as a right-wing troll who frequently took anti-foreigner and anti-feminist positions and stood up for U.S. President Donald Trump.

Alexandre Bissonnette, 27, a student at Laval University who lived on a quiet crescent in the Cap-Rouge suburb of Quebec City, was expected in court Monday to face murder charges for the shooting that killed six people and wounded 19 others. Police initially arrested a person they considered a second suspect but they later backtracked, saying he was a witness.

Mr. Bissonnette's online profile and school friendships revealed little interest in extremist politics until last March when French nationalist leader Marine Le Pen visited Quebec City and inspired Mr. Bissonnette to vocal extreme online activism, according to people who clashed with him.

https://beta.theglobeandmail.com/news/n ... ice=mobile
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by KK » Mon Jan 30, 2017 11:17 pm

Radicalisation is now a big problem online.
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PostRe: The Terrorism Discussion Thread
by Cuttooth » Mon Jan 30, 2017 11:19 pm

KKLEIN wrote:Radicalisation is now a big problem online.

Yep, far-right, white nationalist rhetoric now needs to be taken just as seriously as Islamic extremism.
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by Cuttooth » Wed Feb 01, 2017 11:40 pm

Cuttooth wrote:
KKLEIN wrote:Radicalisation is now a big problem online.

Yep, far-right, white nationalist rhetoric now needs to be taken just as seriously as Islamic extremism.

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PostRe: The Terrorism Discussion Thread
by Lotus » Thu Mar 16, 2017 12:33 pm

School shooting in France:

A shooting at a school in the southern French town of Grasse has injured several people, police sources say.

The French government has sent out a warning of a terrorist attack via its mobile app.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-39292755

A letter bomb has also gone off at the IMF in Paris; could perhaps be related.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-39292671
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by Moggy » Thu Mar 16, 2017 12:37 pm

Lotus wrote:A letter bomb has also gone off at the IMF in Paris; could perhaps be related.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-39292671


In another development, the German finance ministry in Berlin intercepted a parcel bomb sent to Finance Minister Wolfgang Schaeuble on Wednesday.

A Greek far-left group, the Conspiracy of Fire Cells, said on a website that it had sent the German device.


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by Memento Mori » Wed Mar 22, 2017 2:56 pm

Shots apparently fired outside parliament.



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PostRe: The Terrorism Discussion Thread
by Grumpy David » Wed Mar 22, 2017 2:58 pm

London based terrorism deserves an individual thread?

Do we know if police shot terrorist before the terrorist could shoot anyone else?
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by <]:^D » Wed Mar 22, 2017 3:03 pm

if police shot terrorist
who was terrorist?!
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by Floex » Wed Mar 22, 2017 3:05 pm

Grumpy David wrote:London based terrorism deserves an individual thread?

Yes?

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