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PostRe: The Terrorism Discussion Thread: Stabbings in Minnesota; Explosion in New York
by Saint of Killers » Mon Sep 19, 2016 6:38 pm

Tineash wrote:Nobody died, no death penalty.


Some states apparently dish out death penalties for multiple drug dealing infractions ( :!: ), aggravated kidnap and rape of minor. Along with the usual suspects such as treason, etc.

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PostRe: The Terrorism Discussion Thread: Stabbings in Minnesota; Explosion in New York
by Rocsteady » Sun Sep 25, 2016 2:17 am

Thought I was going to be near my fourth terrorist attack tonight but they currently suspect it was just a gas explosion that went off in Budapest. Could hear the noise from my flat, is right along the road. 2 injured, both police

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PostRe: The Terrorism Discussion Thread: Stabbings in Minnesota; Explosion in New York
by captain red dog » Sun Sep 25, 2016 10:56 am

Looks like the Washington Mall shooter has been arrested. Turkish born. That's going to play right into Trumps narrative. :fp:

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PostRe: The Terrorism Discussion Thread: Stabbings in Minnesota; Explosion in New York
by KK » Sun Sep 25, 2016 11:19 am

Calling him "Hispanic" was ridiculous the minute the CCTV came out.

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PostRe: The Terrorism Discussion Thread: Stabbings in Minnesota; Explosion in New York
by Moggy » Sun Sep 25, 2016 11:40 am

KK wrote:Calling him "Hispanic" was ridiculous the minute the CCTV came out.


Hispanic would have played into Trump's tiny little hands just as much as Muslim/Asian will.

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PostRe: The Terrorism Discussion Thread: Stabbings in Minnesota; Explosion in New York
by KK » Mon Sep 26, 2016 11:00 pm

A disgruntled lawyer who had numerous weapons randomly shot at drivers in a Houston neighborhood Monday morning, hitting six people, one critically, before he was shot and killed by police, authorities said. Another three people had injuries from glass or debris.

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The wife of one of the shooting victims, Jennifer Molleda, said she believes the gunman was “aiming to kill.”

The first report of the shootings came in at about 6:30 a.m., Police Chief Martha Montalvo said at a news conference, and the suspect began firing at officers when they arrived. Montalvo did not identify the man; Mayor Sylvester Turner told KTRK-TV that the lawyer was “disgruntled” and was “either fired or had a bad relationship with this law firm.”

Numerous weapons were found at the scene, a bomb-squad robot examined a Porsche that’s believed to be the shooter’s and bomb squad officers also were scouring the suspect’s residence, Montalvo said.

During the shooting, DeSai was wearing an antique Nazi uniform with Swastikas on it, KPRC2 reported.

The entrance to the condo complex, which is near the affluent enclave of West University Place, was still blocked off with police tape late Monday morning. Several cars with bullet holes and shattered windows were at a nearby strip mall.

Molleda and her husband live in the same condo complex as the shooter. Though she heard gunshots about 6:12 a.m. and called 911, her husband left for work. The 45-year-old called him not long after, and he told her “I’m hit, I’m hit.”

After the shooting stopped at 7:15 a.m., Molleda found her husband, 49-year-old Alan Wakim, several blocks away in the parking lot of a nearby strip mall. His Mustang had two shots that went through the windshield, and he told her that he saw a red laser beam before the shots were fired. He was taken to a hospital to be treated.

“He got out of his car, we hugged, we cried,” Molleda said.

Molleda said she didn’t know the suspect very well, and described him as quiet. “He’s a normal, average Joe,” she said.

Jason Delgado, the property manager of The Oaks at West University condo complex, confirmed that police are going through a residence. He also said that there were two recent incidents involving the suspect.

In August, Delgado said, police were called after roofers working in the complex said he pointed an assault-style rifle at them. He says there wasn’t enough evidence to move forward with charges because the suspect contended he didn’t point the gun at roofers. Molleda mentioned the same incident.

And last week, the man became upset because of water pressure problems at his home, asked for maintenance help and expressed his displeasure in an email to the management firm that implied he’d “intimidate his way to getting what he was asking for,” Delgado said.

Molleda told KHOU she was aware of the alleged confrontation with the roofers, but “what set him off at 6:12 this morning, I don’t know.”

“What personal problems he has going on in his life, who knows,” she said.

Another witness, 30-year-old Antwon Wilson, inadvertently drove into the shooting scene after dropping off his girlfriend at work and could “literally hear the gunfire flying.” He managed to flee and escape injury.

Lee Williams left his home in the neighborhood upon hearing gunshots and began directing traffic away from the condo complex, noting that people usually cut through the area to avoid some busier intersections. One car ignored him, he said, and was immediately shot at. Williams couldn’t see the gunman because it was dark, but believed he saw the muzzle flashes.

“Whatever cars were going by, he was shooting at them,” the 55-year-old said, noting he heard at least 50 gunshots over 40 or so minutes. As he was being interviewed, neighbors came by and patted him on the back, thanking him for keeping people safe.

Williams took video of the incident and shared it with KHOU. Repeated, loud gunshots can be heard as a man says, “Hey, get going, they’re shooting! Go, go, go!”

Of the nine people hurt, Houston Fire Department spokesman Ruy Lozano said six were shot and three had minor injuries related to glass. Montalvo said one person was hospitalized in critical condition and another in serious condition.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/houston-sho ... tims-wife/

Crazy. And not just him!

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PostRe: The Terrorism Discussion Thread: Stabbings in Minnesota; Explosion in New York
by KK » Mon Dec 19, 2016 8:21 pm

BBC News wrote:Nine people have died and many more have been injured after a lorry ploughed into a Christmas market in central Berlin, police say.

Police now say they suspect it was a deliberate attack. Video footage from the scene shows stalls knocked over and people lying injured on the ground.

The driver is on the run, German media report.
The market is at Breitscheidplatz close to the Kurfuerstendamm, the main shopping street in the city's west.

A reporter for the Berliner Morgenpost described a "gruesome scene".

The Berliner Zeitung reports that police have set up a meeting point for relatives at the scene.

A photographer for the DPA news agency said that armed police were at entrance to the nearby zoo.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-38373867

Now confirmed to be at least 3 dead.

Sad fact how do you even stop something like this. You can't put concrete bollards everywhere.

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PostRe: The Terrorism Discussion Thread: Multiple dead as Lorry ploughs into German market
by Memento Mori » Mon Dec 19, 2016 8:29 pm

Christ. I was there at Breitscheidplatz two weeks ago, it's right next to this massive Xmas decorations shop. Extremely busy and packed with tourists and shoppers. :(

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PostRe: The Terrorism Discussion Thread: Multiple dead as Lorry ploughs into German market
by KK » Mon Dec 19, 2016 8:31 pm

Up to 9 now; expected to rise higher.

Grim sense of deja-vu.

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PostRe: The Terrorism Discussion Thread: Multiple dead as Lorry ploughs into German Christmas market
by Blue Eyes » Mon Dec 19, 2016 9:19 pm

Can 2016 just strawberry float off now please? What a strawberry floating hell hole this world is.

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PostRe: The Terrorism Discussion Thread: Multiple dead as Lorry ploughs into German Christmas market
by Jamo3103 » Mon Dec 19, 2016 9:42 pm

I'm due to be flying out to Berlin on Wednesday too - if I'd gone through with my original plans I'd have actually been there tonight, really scary thought. (and hasn't half put me off going).

This world really is a horrible place to live in sometimes.

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PostRe: The Terrorism Discussion Thread: Multiple dead as Lorry ploughs into German Christmas market
by Blue Eyes » Mon Dec 19, 2016 9:48 pm

Islamic terrorism isn't really showing much sign of abating is it. What the strawberry float can be done about this? Just seems utterly hopeless.

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PostRe: The Terrorism Discussion Thread: Multiple dead as Lorry ploughs into German Christmas market
by KK » Mon Dec 19, 2016 10:14 pm

The Twitter feed of the "Iraqi Popular Mobilization Force" are saying that the Islamic State are claiming credit for this, based on jihadist accounts the IPMF tracks using encrypted technology.

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PostRe: The Terrorism Discussion Thread: Multiple dead as Lorry ploughs into German Christmas market
by Qikz » Mon Dec 19, 2016 10:16 pm

Blue Eyes wrote:Islamic terrorism isn't really showing much sign of abating is it. What the strawberry float can be done about this? Just seems utterly hopeless.


Firstly you can stop jumping to conclusions.

There's no evidence to suggest it was "islamic terrorism" at all.

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PostRe: The Terrorism Discussion Thread: Multiple dead as Lorry ploughs into German Christmas market
by Meep » Mon Dec 19, 2016 10:24 pm

My sister was in Germany and visited that market just last week. Jesus...

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PostRe: The Terrorism Discussion Thread: Multiple dead as Lorry ploughs into German Christmas market
by Blue Eyes » Mon Dec 19, 2016 10:35 pm

Qikzmas wrote:
Blue Eyes wrote:Islamic terrorism isn't really showing much sign of abating is it. What the strawberry float can be done about this? Just seems utterly hopeless.


Firstly you can stop jumping to conclusions.

There's no evidence to suggest it was "islamic terrorism" at all.

ISIS have claimed responsibility for the attack, hence why I spoke of Islamic terrorism. It's been quite prevalent for a while, you might have noticed.

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PostRe: The Terrorism Discussion Thread: Multiple dead as Lorry ploughs into German Christmas market
by Meep » Mon Dec 19, 2016 11:18 pm

The most important thing is to keep the response proportional. No matter how scary it is, terrorism kills relatively few people in western countries so we should not be driven to irrational overreactions.

So what when someone asks "what can be done about this" the answer has to be just about what we are already doing. Taking sensible precautions, investigating suspicious activity and foiling as many attempts as possible.

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PostRe: The Terrorism Discussion Thread: Multiple dead as Lorry ploughs into German Christmas market
by Gandalf » Tue Dec 20, 2016 8:10 am

They should take a good look at security, both Polish and German. If this lorry was reported stolen a few days ago, the haulage company couldn't locate the driver, then how come it was able to cross the border into Germany? That should've been red flagged there and then.

Thoughts are with the families of the dead and injured at, what should be, a joy filled time of the year......

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PostRe: The Terrorism Discussion Thread: Multiple dead as Lorry ploughs into German Christmas market
by captain red dog » Tue Dec 20, 2016 8:10 am

Blue Eyes wrote:
Qikzmas wrote:
Blue Eyes wrote:Islamic terrorism isn't really showing much sign of abating is it. What the strawberry float can be done about this? Just seems utterly hopeless.


Firstly you can stop jumping to conclusions.

There's no evidence to suggest it was "islamic terrorism" at all.

ISIS have claimed responsibility for the attack, hence why I spoke of Islamic terrorism. It's been quite prevalent for a while, you might have noticed.

BBC are also now reporting the suspect was an Afghan or Pakistani asylum seeker. Apparently he hijacked the lorry and the passenger was the murdered original driver/victim.

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PostRe: The Terrorism Discussion Thread: Multiple dead as Lorry ploughs into German Christmas market
by Poser » Tue Dec 20, 2016 8:48 am

captain red dog wrote:Apparently he hijacked the lorry and the passenger was the murdered original driver/victim.


:shock: That's some 24-level gooseberry fool right there.

When I first heard the story I assumed it was an accident.

After the loss of life, the worst thing about this is the fuel it gives to Farage and the rest of the right wing. He's already been bleating this morning.


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