Australia Proposes Mandatory Internet Censorship

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by Alvin Flummux » Thu Oct 30, 2008 6:47 pm

AUSTRALIA will join China in implementing mandatory censoring of the internet under plans put forward by the Federal Government.

The revelations emerge as US tech giants Google, Microsoft and Yahoo, and a coalition of human rights and other groups unveiled a code of conduct aimed at safeguarding online freedom of speech and privacy.

The government has declared it will not let internet users opt out of the proposed national internet filter.

The plan was first created as a way to combat child pronography and adult content, but could be extended to include controversial websites on euthanasia or anorexia.

Communications minister Stephen Conroy revealed the mandatory censorship to the Senate estimates committee as the Global Network Initiative, bringing together leading companies, human rights organisations, academics and investors, committed the technology firms to "protect the freedom of expression and privacy rights of their users".

Mr Conroy said trials were yet to be carried out, but "we are talking about mandatory blocking, where possible, of illegal material."

The net nanny proposal was originally going to allow Australians who wanted uncensored access to the web the option of contacting their internet service provider to be excluded from the service.

Human Rights Watch has condemned internet censorship, and argued to the US Senate "there is a real danger of a Virtual Curtain dividing the internet, much as the Iron Curtain did during the Cold War, because some governments fear the potential of the internet, (and) want to control it"

Groups including the System Administrators Guild of Australia and Electronic Frontiers Australia have attacked the proposal, saying it would unfairly restrict Australians' access to the web, slow internet speeds and raise the price of internet access.

EFA board member Colin Jacobs said it would have little effect on illegal internet content, including child pornography, as it would not cover file-sharing networks.

"If the Government would actually come out and say we're only targeting child pornography it would be a different debate," he said.

The technology companies' move, which follows criticism that the companies were assisting censorship of the internet in nations such as China, requires them to narrowly interpret government requests for information or censorship and to fight to minimise cooperation.

The initiative provides a systematic approach to "work together in resisting efforts by governments that seek to enlist companies in acts of censorship and surveillance that violate international standards", the participants said.

In a statement, Yahoo co-founder and chief executive Jerry Yang welcomed the new code of conduct.

"These principles provide a valuable roadmap for companies like Yahoo operating in markets where freedom of expression and privacy are unfairly restricted," he said.

"Yahoo was founded on the belief that promoting access to information can enrich people's lives, and the principles we unveil today reflect our determination that our actions match our values around the world."

Yahoo was thrust into the forefront of the online rights issue after the Californian company helped Chinese police identify cyber dissidents whose supposed crime was expressing their views online.

China exercises strict control over the internet, blocking sites linked to Chinese dissidents, the outlawed Falun Gong spiritual movement, the Tibetan government-in-exile and those with information on the 1989 Tiananmen massacre.

A number of US companies, including Microsoft, Cisco, Google and Yahoo, have been hauled before the US Congress in recent years and accused of complicity in building the "Great Firewall of China".

The Australian Christian Lobby, however, has welcomed the proposals.

Managing director Jim Wallace said the measures were needed.

"The need to prevent access to illegal hard-core material and child pornography must be placed above the industry's desire for unfettered access," Mr Wallace said.


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So, what, is Australia becoming a police state?

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by SEP » Thu Oct 30, 2008 6:49 pm

Australia censor the hell out of everything. They're quite uptight for a nation descended from criminals.

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by Lex-Man » Thu Oct 30, 2008 6:59 pm

I just be p**ed I couldn't play TF2 without massive lag.

Surly Freenet and poxyies would easily get round any censorship.

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by $ilva $hadow » Thu Oct 30, 2008 7:58 pm

:| What the hell is up with Australia? They've been stuck in the stone ages for so long. Do the younger generation not care of politics? At least here in the UK we just have to wait about ten or twenty years for these old backwards politicians to die before gaming becomes more accepted in politics, but Australia is just not changing at all.

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PostRe: Australia Proposes Mandatory Internet Censorship
by Lionsheart » Thu Oct 30, 2008 8:05 pm

Apparently there was a poll on one of the morning TV shows and 80% of people were against it.

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by smurphy » Thu Oct 30, 2008 8:06 pm

Ol' Yahtzee will not be happy.

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by $ilva $hadow » Thu Oct 30, 2008 8:07 pm

And what is that 80 percent of people going to do? Willing to protest it?

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by Memento Mori » Thu Oct 30, 2008 8:07 pm

$ilva $hadow wrote:And what is that 80 percent of people going to do? Willing to protest it?

Thing is who can be bothered to protest about anything?

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by Alvin Flummux » Thu Oct 30, 2008 8:09 pm

$ilva $hadow wrote::| What the hell is up with Australia? They've been stuck in the stone ages for so long. Do the younger generation not care of politics? At least here in the UK we just have to wait about ten or twenty years for these old backwards politicians to die before gaming becomes more accepted in politics, but Australia is just not changing at all.


I think it's time Australia was liberated.

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by Madness » Thu Oct 30, 2008 8:15 pm

$ilva $hadow wrote::| What the hell is up with Australia? They've been stuck in the stone ages for so long. Do the younger generation not care of politics? At least here in the UK we just have to wait about ten or twenty years for these old backwards politicians to die before gaming becomes more accepted in politics, but Australia is just not changing at all.


The more terrifying thing is the young people over there have to vote, as it's compulsory voting over there. :|

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by $ilva $hadow » Thu Oct 30, 2008 10:56 pm

:shock: It's compulsory to vote?! That must be amazing, but why are they so backwards? Why are there no newcomers in the politics? Or is there? Are they all fed corn and live on farms? What in gods name are they on? They've got such little change to their views. Backwards f**kers would love the Daily Mail over there I bet.

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by KK » Thu Oct 30, 2008 10:58 pm

Lovely country, but their censorship is becoming rather over the top. Start censoring the internet, however well meaning, & you're heading down a very slippery slope.

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by $ilva $hadow » Thu Oct 30, 2008 11:01 pm

They have a constitution though, how in the hell do they get away with all this censorship? I don't know their laws, but they must have something in the constitution that should prevent so much interfering with their freedom.

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by Mr Thropwimp » Fri Oct 31, 2008 12:57 am

This is fairly old news, it's being discussed prominently on tech websites, with a lot of coverage on Ars.

It's not actually been put through yet, but the press is siding pretty much for it with misleading analysis. It's all that "think of the children" gooseberry fool again. The government there is completely ignoring the survey that they themselves conducted, which showed that website filters like that do not work. They result in too many false positives and can cut the ISP's bandwidth performance by a good 70%.

It won't work and so it won't happen or work as the government expects it to. The ISPs will do their best to combat it for the sake of their business, and the people who have an opinion and know what they're talking about when it comes to the internet will do their very best to oppose this.

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PostRe: Australia Proposes Mandatory Internet Censorship
by Mr Yoshi » Fri Oct 31, 2008 1:23 am

$ilva $hadow wrote::shock: It's compulsory to vote?! That must be amazing, but why are they so backwards? Why are there no newcomers in the politics? Or is there? Are they all fed corn and live on farms? What in gods name are they on? They've got such little change to their views. Backwards f**kers would love the Daily Mail over there I bet.


Ignorant much?

The only thing Australia tends to differ much on, in comparison to the UK, is tech related issues such as internet censorship and censorship in general. And you have to understand that with a lot of nationally based problems, Aboriginals come into the argument a lot and how the Federal government can pass laws that will look like they're trying to solve that particular problem. A survery came out last year that said a very high percentage of Aboriginal families had experienced some kind of sexual abuse from other family members - a result of easy access to pornography and various substance abuse problems in the Northern Territory.

Apart from that Australia's becoming increasingly liberal. So before you start throwing around gross misinterpretations on an entire nation I suggest you actually educate yourself a little first.

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by Rightey » Fri Oct 31, 2008 4:39 am

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$ilva $hadow wrote::shock: It's compulsory to vote?! That must be amazing, but why are they so backwards? Why are there no newcomers in the politics? Or is there? Are they all fed corn and live on farms? What in gods name are they on? They've got such little change to their views. Backwards f**kers would love the Daily Mail over there I bet.


Ignorant much?

A survery came out last year that said a very high percentage of Aboriginal families had experienced some kind of sexual abuse from other family members - a result of easy access to pornography and various substance abuse problems in the Northern Territory.


So let me get this straight? Porn+Booze= Kid Fiddlers?

Sounds right to me.

I'm sure it's got nothing to do with lack of jobs, or poor education in the areas where these aboriginals live.

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PostRe: Australia Proposes Mandatory Internet Censorship
by Mr Yoshi » Fri Oct 31, 2008 6:10 am

And neither did I say that. But it is the direct result of such things. If you want to go long term I'm sure there's 100+ studies done that are available.

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by Fatal Exception » Fri Oct 31, 2008 9:27 am

Mr Yoshi wrote:And neither did I say that. But it is the direct result of such things. If you want to go long term I'm sure there's 100+ studies done that are available.


Sounds gooseberry fool to me. These studies are always done with an agenda.

Quite frankly you can relate anything with anything if you draw up a graph.

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by Kinetic » Fri Oct 31, 2008 9:51 am

China also blocks YouPorn, the bastards!

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PostRe: Australia Proposes Mandatory Internet Censorship
by Cal » Fri Oct 31, 2008 10:14 am

Alvin Flummux wrote:So, what, is Australia becoming a police state?


No - they're doing what every other so-called democracy is doing: using terrorists and child pornographers as a Trojan Horse to erode civil liberties from right before our eyes. But who cares, if it's 'for the good of the children' right?

Politicians and their lackeys in the media quickly learned all you have to do with potentially flawed, unjust or plain wicked legislation is to preface its introduction to the great unwashed with a few judicious mentions of 'child protection' and 'anti-terrorist measures'. Shuts everyone up a treat.

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