Avengers: Age of Ultron. Out now.

Saw this last night and yeah I'm in the disappointed camp.

We see the best and the very worst of Wheadon in here. I've always had this problem with his writing style but every single person has to have a 'joke'. Take Quicksilver, was so badly written, none of his lines made me smile, there was no substance to him. Ultron started out well but by the end he was wise crazing about 'puking up in his mouth'. He just didn't seem much of a threat towards the climax. Initially interested when Scarlett Witch started to control people's minds. I thought we were going to see some crazy psychedelic scenes reminiscent from the Arkham games but we got hardly any of that. The only one that was great was the Tony Stark vision, tis brilliant but the rest lacklustre.

Ultron. interesting antagonist but we hardly get to see enough of him on screen, to really delve into him. There isn't enough time to build a strong villain over a course of a film. I've noted before how badly the villains in the Marvel universe are underwritten and this continues to convince me that is the case.

You could say the films structure was almost identical to the first. 1 main villain culminating in a big free for all scrap at the very end. The film didn't feel special. It'll never capture the magic of the first but an Avengers movie should be an end of chapter moment. The phase two films have been mediocre to poor but if Marvel are going to shoehorn in moments, to push to the next production, atleast let that product be the Avengers. Every 'phase' should wrap up in the Avengers but that's my opinion.

I'm hopeful for the Infinity War & Civil War. For the former, two parts should allow penalty of screen time to make Thanos a threat. For the latter it has a brilliant premise that should make it different from your bog standard Marvel movie.

Lucien wrote:
Floex wrote:
One of the problems is they wasted time on Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver, who nobody gives flying strawberry float about.

Speak for yourself.

Most people I've spoken to felt Quiksilver's death was a waste of a good character

I was honestly expecting him to [is]wake up at the end or in a post-credit scene or something, with some explanation of super fast metabolism healing him before the wounds could kill him.[/is]
Personally, I found him a much more likeable character than he was in DofP. For one thing, in this he actually had some character development.

Corazon de Leon

Memento Mori wrote:
HM wrote:
Could be him trying to recruit Ant-Man to the New Avengers at the end of the film.

Scraping the barrel there.

Qikz wrote:
chalkitdown wrote:He's right though. Much as I loved this, he was the least interesting character in it and his death scene was stupid. Didn't make any sense considering how he dealt with a similar threat earlier in the film.

Technically he actually got grazed by bullets early on in the film. Honestly I don't quite understand how he moved Hawkeye and the kid out the way and still got hit by the bullets, but I guess he was exhausted.

Yeah there was a scene earlier where he's leaning against a wall trying to catch his breath. It's unlikely he's ever had to use his powers that much and was exhausted. There was an episode of Flash where he was nearly passing out from low blood sugar, which was a small detail I liked.

He didn't move anyone out of the way did he? Just ran in between them and the bullets.

I thought he did.

Hawkeye and the kid were suddenly behind a parked car at the end so I think he moved them

I think he moved the actual car itself.

Although I can't see how his body or a car could stop gunship bullets from passing through and hitting Hawkeye and the kid. That whole scene didn't make any sense and didn't need to be there.

The very fact they showed them saving his body makes me think he's gonna be revived by Wanda using the Soul Gem in the next film.

Corazon de Leon

Qikz wrote:The very fact they showed them saving his body makes me think he's gonna be revived by Wanda using the Soul Gem in the next film.

There is no question in my mind that this will happen to some extent, even if he eventually dies once again. It's a moment designed to be shocking in the film, but which can be retracted at any moment by a plot device because, well, it's a superhero movie and these things don't have to make logical sense.

As soon as he died it made perfect sense to me, Aaron Taylor-Johnson doesn't strike me as the kind of actor who'd want to sign a multi-film contract and even if he did, the guy's not even that good. He served his purpose here but hopefully he's done with now. Marvel has been criticised for killing characters off then bringing them back too often so he should really stay dead to please that crowd.

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I don't think bringing back characters from the dead in the film is a great precedent. If they ever want to kill a good guy off after that, people will assume they'll just bring them back down the line and it'll lose its impact

Tomous wrote:I don't think a precedent for bringing back characters from the dead in the film is a great precedent. If they ever want to kill a good guy of after that, people will assume they'll just bring them back down the line and it'll lose its impact

I don't think that's right, but I guess it's personal opinion.

Corazon de Leon

Skippy wrote:As soon as he died it made perfect sense to me, Aaron Taylor-Johnson doesn't strike me as the kind of actor who'd want to sign a multi-film contract and even if he did, the guy's not even that good. He served his purpose here but hopefully he's done with now. Marvel has been criticised for killing characters off then bringing them back too often so he should really stay dead to please that crowd.

You keep saying that but Marvel's policy is to sign actors on multi-film contracts, and he's already done two Kick-Ass films. I'd be amazed if he's not on a three film contract or more, even if the purpose is only to appear in flashbacks or dream sequences with Elizabeth Olsen.

Off to see this tonight. Rewatched Winter Soldier, Thor 2 and IM3 yesterday in prep.

What's that? I also have to watch 20 episodes of Agents of Shield too?

No. No I do not.

Corazon de Leon wrote:
Skippy wrote:As soon as he died it made perfect sense to me, Aaron Taylor-Johnson doesn't strike me as the kind of actor who'd want to sign a multi-film contract and even if he did, the guy's not even that good. He served his purpose here but hopefully he's done with now. Marvel has been criticised for killing characters off then bringing them back too often so he should really stay dead to please that crowd.

You keep saying that but Marvel's policy is to sign actors on multi-film contracts, and he's already done two Kick-Ass films. I'd be amazed if he's not on a three film contract or more, even if the purpose is only to appear in flashbacks or dream sequences with Elizabeth Olsen.

There's also the fact that Scarlet Witch is batshit mental, so she could potentially invoke a "No More Mutants"-esque change in reality that brings him back. Or something.

I like Hexx's 'late for everything' posts.

To be fair it was overlooked when I posted it, and it's a great video

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Floex wrote:I like Hexx's 'late for everything' posts.

Your mum's late.

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