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Tomous wrote:Yeah, she was sterilised to make her a more efficient killing machine.

She wasn't saying she was a monster because she was infertile. She was saying she was a monster because of the steps that had been taken to remove human elements of herself, to make her a better assassin. Irreversible choices had been made to turn into a cold-blood killing machine and that's why she felt like a monster. Not because she couldn't have kids which misses the point of what she was saying in my opinion.

For the record though, I don't think that scene, or any of the Black Widow/Hulk storyline was handled particularly well. It was one of the weakest aspects of the film.

chalkitdown wrote:Whole bunch of bullshit over a nothing line. Internet "activists" make me enraged sometimes.

The worst part of it all is how they seem to be completely disregarding Whedon's history of being one of the only high profile writers of strong female characters on tv way back when. Female leads might not be where they are now without him.

Cheeky Devlin wrote:

Tomous wrote:Yeah, she was sterilised to make her a more efficient killing machine.

She wasn't saying she was a monster because she was infertile. She was saying she was a monster because of the steps that had been taken to remove human elements of herself, to make her a better assassin. Irreversible choices had been made to turn into a cold-blood killing machine and that's why she felt like a monster. Not because she couldn't have kids which misses the point of what she was saying in my opinion.

For the record though, I don't think that scene, or any of the Black Widow/Hulk storyline was handled particularly well. It was one of the weakest aspects of the film.

That's pretty much what I meant, but put far clearer.

According to Whedon, Marvel was not fond of the act two breather wherein the team takes refuge at Hawkeye's farm; on the other hand, the studio was "quite adamant" about adding in the scenes wherein Thor and Dr. Selvig visit a mystical Norse cave pool.

"The dreams [brought to life by Scarlet Witch's powers] were not an executive favorite either -- the dreams, the farmhouse, these were things I fought to keep," Whedon said. "With the cave, it really turned into: they pointed a gun at the farm's head and said, 'Give us the cave, or we'll take out the farm,' -- in a civilized way. I respect these guys, they're artists, but that's when it got really, really unpleasant."

When viewed in larger context of the Marvel Cinematic Universe, the cave sequence ties "Age of Ultron" to the rest of the mythology since it reveals the existence and importance of the Infinity Stones to Thor, and eventually the Avengers. Whedon also revealed that additional footage was shot at the cave, but the scenes were removed after they tested poorly with audiences.

The director also revealed that he wanted to put both Captain Marvel and Spider-Man in the movie, but Carol Danvers had not been cast, and Marvel's deal with Sony to share the wall-crawler was not finalized in time. "I would have put both of them [in Ultron], but neither of the deals were made.

Dual wrote:I also thought the birthing pool was pointless.

Question: why could Vision pick up Thor's hammer?