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Re: AYAV? gg all
Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2011 11:57 am
by teh bork
Oblomov Boblomov wrote:MCN, that is an incredibly gooseberry fool attitude to take, especially with a forum game. I genuinely can't fathom why you think that way (not just you - StayDead and Bork too). It's honestly more important to you that you win rather than you have fun, in a forum game where there is nothing on the line? I suppose it's an agree to disagree situation, but it just doesn't compute with me.
But I never said that, I claimed the TAP/Mocky partnership was excellent, which it was. Yes it gave us an advantage, but in any sort of game or competition you'd be foolish not to use an advantage given to you, otherwise what's the point of the special roles? Anyway if you think about it TAP named two wolves, we actually had Luke down as a wolf within the first day and only left him alone because of the whole Mori situation. Goat, Wiggles and Songwriter were all killed because of the work of the villagers as a whole, not just TAP, Mocky and their inner circle. If the wolves had been winning and we had the opportunity to have a partnership of this sort then would anyone be moaning then?
Also whilst I join these games purely to have fun, it was quite nice to win for the first time whilst doing so.
Re: AYAV? gg all
Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2011 11:57 am
by Fatal Exception
I'm disappointed the vampire pricks didn't target the inactives at the start of the game, such is the custom.
I fully blame Mori for this and he's going down in the next game.
Re: AYAV? gg all
Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2011 11:59 am
by abcd
How could the wolves lose?
Terrible show.
Re: AYAV? gg all
Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2011 12:00 pm
by Qikz
MCN, that is an incredibly gooseberry fool attitude to take, especially with a forum game. I genuinely can't fathom why you think that way (not just you - StayDead and Bork too). It's honestly more important to you that you win rather than you have fun, in a forum game where there is nothing on the line? I suppose it's an agree to disagree situation, but it just doesn't compute with me.
My enjoyment comes from winning. As a villager with no role it's really hard to have fun without being wrong (which I was) and most of the time you're just left in the dark about everything and bored trying to guess work people as nobody ever talks to you about the game.
I had fun at the beginning because Mori was talking to me and I finally thought I had a little network to enjoy the game in, then it turns out he was an asshole vampire and I got tossed into the cooking pot of other villagers trying to do everything I could to not get myself killed. After that point when suspicion was on me, I knew the only way I could get enjoyment was to win. I latched onto the Tiarny/Mocky bandwagon and tried helping as much as I can while also doing as much as I could to make sure the vamps wouldn't kill me as I could still be suspicious.
Re: AYAV? gg all
Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2011 12:43 pm
by Oblomov Boblomov
teh bork wrote:But I never said that, I claimed the TAP/Mocky partnership was excellent, which it was.
Before that you said "While some might moan..." which led me to believe you were in the same mind set as MCN and StayDead. I'm not commenting on the actual mayoral swapping mechanic itself (although I do think it's completely gooseberry fool), rather the attitude that apparently it's more fun to win a pointless game while doing nothing than it is to lose while having all sorts of crazy gooseberry fool go down. For example, just how much fun was the game before the swapping malarky got put into place? No one knew exactly what was going on, rumours were flying around, people were dying etc. The only reason it remained at all mysterious was because even after Mori was dead, DML wouldn't back down in his accusations against MM
. Yes, it would settle down after a few days anyway, but not to the extent it did.
StayDead, like I said before, it's an agree to disagree situation. It just doesn't make sense to me, whereas it obviously does for you, and that's fair enough.
Re: AYAV? gg all
Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2011 1:01 pm
by SuperChris
Memento Mori wrote:We killed Satriales, there wasn't much point killing Pyxl as he had already used his power, I'm confident we could have got Com Shep to kill Mockmaster had Com Shep been online earlier enough to read my PMs and Sykes hadn't changed his mind about the mayor being protected from vigilante kills.
I didnt think their was enough evidence on him.. if you had told me something like you were contact with a seer and you were 100% sure he was a vamp i might have. =) but then i would wanna know who your seer is.
Re: AYAV? gg all
Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2011 1:01 pm
by SEP
If you want to have fun, have a wank.
AYAV? gg all
Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2011 1:02 pm
by Oh Teh Noes
Somebody Else's Problem wrote:If you want to have fun, have a wank.
So what you're saying is that AYA* shouldn't be fun?
Re: AYAV? gg all
Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2011 1:06 pm
by SEP
Oh Teh Noes wrote:Somebody Else's Problem wrote:If you want to have fun, have a wank.
So what you're saying is that AYA* shouldn't be fun?
Winning is fun. If you're not playing to win, you're ruining it for everyone who is.
AYAV? gg all
Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2011 1:08 pm
by Oh Teh Noes
Watching other people win isn't fun for me. I tried my best to get involved, but even when TAP wasn't running, people still voted for him anyway!
How is that fair in the slightest?
Re: AYAV? gg all
Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2011 1:09 pm
by Frank
Oh Teh Noes wrote:Watching other people win isn't fun for me. I tried my best to get involved, but even when TAP wasn't running, people still voted for him anyway!
It was even better when the people who didn't vote for TAP were then suspicious
Re: AYAV? gg all
Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2011 1:11 pm
by SEP
Oh Teh Noes wrote:How is that fair in the slightest?
We're not in primary school any more, Noes. Not everyone has to have a go of the swings. The Villager role is almost always useless and boring anyway. If you're going to bitch at anyone, bitch at Sykes for not giving you a more exciting role.
Re: AYAV? gg all
Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2011 1:12 pm
by DML
Can I just say that I didnt think Mock was a Vamp. All I was saying was that it was merely possible that he could be - and could at least be questioned.
Re: AYAV? gg all
Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2011 1:15 pm
by Qikz
Somebody Else's Problem wrote:Oh Teh Noes wrote:How is that fair in the slightest?
We're not in primary school any more, Noes. Not everyone has to have a go of the swings. The Villager role is almost always useless and boring anyway. If you're going to bitch at anyone, bitch at Sykes for not giving you a more exciting role.
AYAV? gg all
Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2011 1:17 pm
by Oh Teh Noes
Somebody Else's Problem wrote:Oh Teh Noes wrote:How is that fair in the slightest?
We're not in primary school any more, Noes. Not everyone has to have a go of the swings. The Villager role is almost always useless and boring anyway. If you're going to bitch at anyone, bitch at Sykes for not giving you a more exciting role.
I'm not saying that everybody has to have a go, but it would be nice if everybody voted for people who were actually running, instead of a theoretical candidate.
The Mocky/TAP partnership was gamebreaking and is the reason the game only lasted little more than a week. I found it dull, but that wasn't the fault of Psykes. The most entertaining bits were StayDead and DML, because they were both hilariously bad.
Would you rather play, I dunno, Mario Kart against someone you could easily win against or against someone who challenged you? Similarly, would you rather play a game of TF2 where you stayed in the base and did nothing all game, or would you like to reel involved? It's nothing to do with being in primary school, MCN, it's just dull having nothing to do when you've signed up for a forum game.
Re: AYAV? gg all
Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2011 1:17 pm
by mcjihge2
Somebody Else's Problem wrote:Oh Teh Noes wrote:Somebody Else's Problem wrote:If you want to have fun, have a wank.
So what you're saying is that AYA* shouldn't be fun?
Winning is fun. If you're not playing to win, you're ruining it for everyone who is.
Oh Teh Noes wrote:Watching other people win isn't fun for me. I tried my best to get involved, but even when TAP wasn't running, people still voted for him anyway!
How is that fair in the slightest?
So let me get this straight, what youre saying here is this last AYA game was like watching TAP and Mocky play soggy biscuit and then Wiggles had to eat it?
Is that how Wiggles caught Chlamydia off TAP?
AYAV? gg all
Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2011 1:18 pm
by Oh Teh Noes
StayDead wrote:Somebody Else's Problem wrote:Oh Teh Noes wrote:How is that fair in the slightest?
We're not in primary school any more, Noes. Not everyone has to have a go of the swings. The Villager role is almost always useless and boring anyway. If you're going to bitch at anyone, bitch at Sykes for not giving you a more exciting role.
And will you stop strawberry floating doing that! Contribute or strawberry float off.
Re: AYAV? gg all
Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2011 1:19 pm
by Zellery
What a lovely end to a great thread.
Re: AYAV? gg all
Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2011 1:22 pm
by Frank
It's always a bit difficult when you get the villager role to actually contribute enough to not get killed off for being inactive while still trying to make relevant points so you don't get lynched for being useless.
Being a villager is always rubbish, but this time due to how good the MockTAP connection turned out to be, there was basically nothing anyone who wasn't in the circle of friendship could do, which, when coupled with Sykes' "Post or Die" rule basically resulted in a lot of "Posting to stay alive lol" posts.
Re: AYAV? gg all
Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2011 1:22 pm
by 1cmanny1
Why are you angry dear? "
Because of a forum vampire game" 
Anyway, I have never played this but reading the rules, it seems pretty hard for the vampires to win?