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Re: Best year of the generation so far?
Posted: Tue Nov 02, 2010 2:01 pm
by cooldawn
Beans wrote:cooldawn wrote:Red Dead Redemption is a complete let-down. Not at all worthy of GotY.
Why?
Because the structure didn't work for me at all...the developers decided to have a list of side missions for the main game and then suddenly make everything matter in the last few missions relating to the immediate danger to your family. I use the term 'side missions' strongly because that's what they are. The idea of creating a wealth of utterly irrelevant side missions to crescendo in to a big finale doesn't sit well with me. It's piss poor design.
The game felt utterly redundant after playing those last few missions. For the first time I could sense the peril of the John's family but everything up to that point was just a waste of time.
10 out of 10 and whatever are completely misplaced in my opinion. I don't know how the shabby missions that make up the majority of the game got passed so easily with reviewers...especially when it tried but failed to connect with the last part of the game.
Re: Best year of the generation so far?
Posted: Tue Nov 02, 2010 2:04 pm
by gamerforever
cooldawn wrote:Beans wrote:cooldawn wrote:Red Dead Redemption is a complete let-down. Not at all worthy of GotY.
Why?
Because the structure didn't work for me at all...the developers decided to have a list of side missions for the main game and then suddenly make everything matter in the last few missions relating to your immediate danger to your family. I use the term 'side missions' strongly because that's what they are. The idea of creating a wealth of utterly irrelevant side missions to crescendo in to a big finale doesn't sit well with me. It's piss poor design.
The game felt utterly redundant after playing those last few missions. For the first time I could sense the peril of the John's family but everything up to that point was just a waste of time.
10 out of 10 and whatever are completely misplaced in my opinion. I don't know how the shabby missions that make up the majority of the game got passed so easily with reviewers...especially when it tried but failed to connect with the last part of the game.
I agree with Cooldawn here. I do think a lot of the big name games do not deserve the 10/10 review scores. RDR was an 8 and GTA4 a 6.
Re: Best year of the generation so far?
Posted: Tue Nov 02, 2010 3:36 pm
by SEP
gamerforever wrote:GTA4 a 6.
Absolute unmitigated bollocks.
Re: Best year of the generation so far?
Posted: Tue Nov 02, 2010 3:48 pm
by gamerforever
Somebody Else's Problem wrote:gamerforever wrote:GTA4 a 6.
Absolute unmitigated bollocks.
5 then
Re: Best year of the generation so far?
Posted: Tue Nov 02, 2010 3:48 pm
by Beans
gamerforever wrote:cooldawn wrote:Beans wrote:cooldawn wrote:Red Dead Redemption is a complete let-down. Not at all worthy of GotY.
Why?
Because the structure didn't work for me at all...the developers decided to have a list of side missions for the main game and then suddenly make everything matter in the last few missions relating to your immediate danger to your family. I use the term 'side missions' strongly because that's what they are. The idea of creating a wealth of utterly irrelevant side missions to crescendo in to a big finale doesn't sit well with me. It's piss poor design.
The game felt utterly redundant after playing those last few missions. For the first time I could sense the peril of the John's family but everything up to that point was just a waste of time.
10 out of 10 and whatever are completely misplaced in my opinion. I don't know how the shabby missions that make up the majority of the game got passed so easily with reviewers...especially when it tried but failed to connect with the last part of the game.
I agree with Cooldawn here. I do think a lot of the big name games do not deserve the 10/10 review scores. RDR was an 8 and GTA4 a 6.
Joker confirmed.
Re: What's been the best year of the generation so far?
Posted: Tue Nov 02, 2010 3:56 pm
by Pedz
Haven't finished GTA4, but 6 seems fitting to me.
Really enjoying RDR though.
Re: Best year of the generation so far?
Posted: Tue Nov 02, 2010 7:14 pm
by mokeyjoe
gamerforever wrote:cooldawn wrote:Beans wrote:cooldawn wrote:Red Dead Redemption is a complete let-down. Not at all worthy of GotY.
Why?
Because the structure didn't work for me at all...the developers decided to have a list of side missions for the main game and then suddenly make everything matter in the last few missions relating to your immediate danger to your family. I use the term 'side missions' strongly because that's what they are. The idea of creating a wealth of utterly irrelevant side missions to crescendo in to a big finale doesn't sit well with me. It's piss poor design.
The game felt utterly redundant after playing those last few missions. For the first time I could sense the peril of the John's family but everything up to that point was just a waste of time.
10 out of 10 and whatever are completely misplaced in my opinion. I don't know how the shabby missions that make up the majority of the game got passed so easily with reviewers...especially when it tried but failed to connect with the last part of the game.
I agree with Cooldawn here. I do think a lot of the big name games do not deserve the 10/10 review scores. RDR was an 8 and GTA4 a 6.
A few months ago I would have agreed with you, Bayonetta and SMG2 were heading my GOTY lists. But I keep going back to RDR and I'm still enjoying it 6 months on. The longevity there for me is nudging it closer to the top. I'm still taken aback by the craft and attention to detail. Is it perfect, hell no, but most of my favourite games could be classed as flawed masterpieces. I'm liking it more and more as I put ever more time into it. The missions to me are almost a sideshow, it's really the world I've fallen for. I couldn't care less about achievements but I'm finding myself doing them just so I can spend more time in the game world, it's a magnificent piece of work.
Re: What's been the best year of the generation so far?
Posted: Fri Nov 05, 2010 10:27 pm
by NickSCFC
PS3 certainly had a positive start with God of War 3 and Heavy Rain. Apart from GT5 there's no big winter title. PS Move's line up has been a bigger let down than Kinect's!
Re: Best year of the generation so far?
Posted: Sat Nov 06, 2010 12:13 pm
by Buffalo
Interesting thread, until
NickSCFC wrote:Sonic 4 (Absolutely loved this, despite what people said, sure it has flaws but they're not that big)
LIMBO (Sold purely on the demo, great game but should've been longer)
Yeah, that's your opinion pretty much nul and void now, really.
Re: What's been the best year of the generation so far?
Posted: Sat Nov 06, 2010 12:20 pm
by Fatal Exception
I agree about GTA4. A massive wasted opportunity which turned into a huge great borefest.
Re: What's been the best year of the generation so far?
Posted: Sat Nov 06, 2010 12:22 pm
by Mafro
Fatal Exception wrote:I agree about GTA4. A massive wasted opportunity which turned into a huge great borefest.
+1
RDR prety much went down the same patch, which was a shame.
Re: What's been the best year of the generation so far?
Posted: Sat Nov 06, 2010 12:26 pm
by Buffalo
It was just enormous - far, far too big a game space. You had these repetitive emergent side missions, like people getting chased by cougars or whatever, in an attempt to perhaps spice it up, but they delayed you even more. I got to the second island and just had enough.
Re: What's been the best year of the generation so far?
Posted: Sat Nov 06, 2010 12:28 pm
by Frank
My interest starting fading once I'd got to the third area, but then I thought I was too close to the end to not carry on. I left it for a while before finishing it, though.
Buffalo wrote:Interesting thread, until
NickSCFC wrote:LIMBO (Sold purely on the demo, great game but should've been longer)
Yeah, that's your opinion pretty much nul and void now, really.
Re: What's been the best year of the generation so far?
Posted: Sat Nov 06, 2010 12:44 pm
by Buffalo
OT, I honestly couldn't decide a year. They seem to almost get better and better.
This thread reminds me that I should start the Game of the Year Awards soon
Re: What's been the best year of the generation so far?
Posted: Sat Nov 06, 2010 12:57 pm
by NickSCFC
Get strawberry floated the bleedin' lot of yer!
Re: What's been the best year of the generation so far?
Posted: Sat Nov 06, 2010 12:58 pm
by Frank
I think I can remember more of the big releases this year. The only big game I can remember from 2009 was Resi 5
Hence why I voted for it in the GOTY thing.
Re: What's been the best year of the generation so far?
Posted: Sun Nov 07, 2010 3:01 pm
by NickSCFC
Frank wrote:I think I can remember more of the big releases this year. The only big game I can remember from 2009 was Resi 5
Hence why I voted for it in the GOTY thing.
Resi 5 was strawberry floating awful too. Was playing 2 yesterday and just can't believe how much they've ruined the franchise
Re: What's been the best year of the generation so far?
Posted: Sun Nov 07, 2010 3:04 pm
by Squinty
All this talk of Red dead being shite, I have it in my backlog. Hope I like it.
What's been the best year of the generation so far?
Posted: Sun Nov 07, 2010 3:28 pm
by Frank
NickSCFC wrote:Frank wrote:I think I can remember more of the big releases this year. The only big game I can remember from 2009 was Resi 5
Hence why I voted for it in the GOTY thing.
Resi 5 was ******* awful too. Was playing 2 yesterday and just can't believe how much they've ruined the franchise
Good fun in co-op, though.
Re: What's been the best year of the generation so far?
Posted: Sun Nov 07, 2010 3:40 pm
by NickSCFC
Frank wrote:NickSCFC wrote:Frank wrote:I think I can remember more of the big releases this year. The only big game I can remember from 2009 was Resi 5
Hence why I voted for it in the GOTY thing.
Resi 5 was ******* awful too. Was playing 2 yesterday and just can't believe how much they've ruined the franchise
Good fun in co-op, though.
For the most part I may as well have been playing House of the Dead. I'd say it was mindless run and gun, but the control flaws made it more
run then gun