Better Call Saul - prequel to Breaking Bad. Series Finale out now on Netflix.

Drumstick wrote:I know right. After sorting out a load of wedding stuff and chores last night I settled down with a nice cuppa, booted up Netflix ready to watch... only to get the bad news. Why is there a break?

Memorial Day Weekend.

I don't think they had a break for Easter. I had the day off work and was looking forward to watching it hours earlier than I normally get to. Crushing disappointed.

Edit: FFS Moggy!

Better Call Saul is not a Netflix produced show even though it appears as a Netflix original. It's AMC who make it. For most international markets, Netflix have exclusivity on it and brand it as an Original which is misleading.

You can't "FFS" me when you post over an hour after me.

Moggy wrote:You can't "FFS" me when you post over an hour after me.

Wtf. I feel silly now!

Don't remember seeing your post till after I posted.

Drumstick wrote:I know right. After sorting out a load of wedding stuff and chores last night I settled down with a nice cuppa, booted up Netflix ready to watch... only to get the bad news. Why is there a break?

I'll forgive them as they put up the new season of House of Cards instead.

Grumpy David wrote:Better Call Saul is not a Netflix produced show even though it appears as a Netflix original. It's AMC who make it. For most international markets, Netflix have exclusivity on it and brand it as an Original which is misleading.

I don't get the criteria around what gets listed as a "Netflix Original" I'm sure I've seen some BBC stuff marked this way as well, all very confusing.

I've basically binged this from S1 over the last few weeks so don't mind having a little break too much. It's been absolutely cracking TV, with this latest season really hitting some heights, Chicanery felt like this shows Ozymandius moment - genuinely can't think of anything that can touch this and BB when they're at the top of their game.

If something is a Netflix Original in UK that means it airs on Netflix first in the UK. Regardless of who actually created it.

Ad7 wrote:thought it was interesting that Kim is clearly struggling with what they did to chuck and jimmy is very comfortable with it. Their drinks scene was pretty much a mirror of this with her seeing the human side of the con and Jimmy just doing it because he doesn't like the person.

I'm guessing Mike changed his mind on the nacho deal because he knew the route that woman's husband took was a hector drug route and if he doesn't stop him, more innocent people will die.

100% disagree with this.

The drinks scene was, in my mind, showing just how damaged Jimmy was by what he'd done to Chuck. He did genuinely seem to be back on the straight and narrow before the trial but the trauma of destroying the relationship with his only relative is forcing him to regress to his old ways. His desire to punish the guy ordering the drink was a reflection of the hate he felt for himself after destroying his mentally ill brother in front of their peers. The scene at the end in the insurance office was the same: Jimmy lashing out when challenged because he can't face himself or the facts.

I think that court-scene is going to end up being the fulcrum of the whole series, the point where Jimmy left and Saul entered.

Tafdolphin wrote:

Ad7 wrote:thought it was interesting that Kim is clearly struggling with what they did to chuck and jimmy is very comfortable with it. Their drinks scene was pretty much a mirror of this with her seeing the human side of the con and Jimmy just doing it because he doesn't like the person.

I'm guessing Mike changed his mind on the nacho deal because he knew the route that woman's husband took was a hector drug route and if he doesn't stop him, more innocent people will die.

100% disagree with this.

The drinks scene was, in my mind, showing just how damaged Jimmy was by what he'd done to Chuck. He did genuinely seem to be back on the straight and narrow before the trial but the trauma of destroying the relationship with his only relative is forcing him to regress to his old ways. His desire to punish the guy ordering the drink was a reflection of the hate he felt for himself after destroying his mentally ill brother in front of their peers. The scene at the end in the insurance office was the same: Jimmy lashing out when challenged because he can't face himself or the facts.

I think that court-scene is going to end up being the fulcrum of the whole series, the point where Jimmy left and Saul entered.

100% disagree with this.

The drinks scene was Jimmy realizing that chuck was the cause of pretty much everything that was crap in his life right now, that's why he lashed out. Chuck strawberry floated Jimmy over time and time again, he's merely retaliating the best way he knows how to. Jimmy justified to himself all the time that Chuck was his brother but this last stunt was the straw that broke the camels back. Jimmy has every right to hate Chuck.

Photek wrote:

Tafdolphin wrote:

Ad7 wrote:thought it was interesting that Kim is clearly struggling with what they did to chuck and jimmy is very comfortable with it. Their drinks scene was pretty much a mirror of this with her seeing the human side of the con and Jimmy just doing it because he doesn't like the person.

I'm guessing Mike changed his mind on the nacho deal because he knew the route that woman's husband took was a hector drug route and if he doesn't stop him, more innocent people will die.

100% disagree with this.

The drinks scene was, in my mind, showing just how damaged Jimmy was by what he'd done to Chuck. He did genuinely seem to be back on the straight and narrow before the trial but the trauma of destroying the relationship with his only relative is forcing him to regress to his old ways. His desire to punish the guy ordering the drink was a reflection of the hate he felt for himself after destroying his mentally ill brother in front of their peers. The scene at the end in the insurance office was the same: Jimmy lashing out when challenged because he can't face himself or the facts.

I think that court-scene is going to end up being the fulcrum of the whole series, the point where Jimmy left and Saul entered.

100% disagree with this.

The drinks scene was Jimmy realizing that chuck was the cause of pretty much everything that was crap in his life right now, that's why he lashed out. Chuck strawberry floated Jimmy over time and time again, he's merely retaliating the best way he knows how to. Jimmy justified to himself all the time that Chuck was his brother but this last stunt was the straw that broke the camels back. Jimmy has every right to hate Chuck.

What? I'm not saying he doesn't have the right to hate Chuck, but if the series has established one thing throughout every other narrative strain it's that Jimmy is loyal to those around him even if this compromises his own well-being.

Anyway, that has nothing to do with what I was saying. The drinks scene demonstrated Jimmy devolving into a base state, an aggressive, feral animal bent on vengeance. I think the implication that he was externalising his own self hatred for demonising Chuck was super obvious. Sure you can take it at surface level like your interpretation, but there's stuff going on underneath here.

Well of course the overall arch will be that Jimmy will turn his back on Chuck and 'normal' lawyer activity to become Saul fully, that said, its not like Jimmy was a conventional Lawyer anyway. Kim feeling sorry for Chuck might end up with Jimmy hating her too.

Episode 8 was aired in Spain, and so a copy (with hard-coded Spanish subs) is available in the usual piratey places.

satriales wrote:Episode 8 was aired in Spain, and so a copy (with hard-coded Spanish subs) is available in the usual piratey places.

Dude! You can't say that without confirming if there's an HD quality rip out there!

EDIT: Found a Megaupload link. It's 845MB so smaller than a normal 720p file so I imagine the quality will somewhere between 720p and 480p. PM me or Drummy if you want the link.

Post it!

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Great episode. I was on the edge of my seat during the Nacho scene in the restaurant.

Also, Chuck's definitely gonna die, isn't he? It's the classic 'make the bad guy see the light then kill him off off just as we get to kinda like him', plot.

chalkitdown wrote:I was on the edge of my seat during the Nacho scene in the restaurant.

I thought he was going to strawberry float up the throw at the end

I still wonder if they are misdirecting us and that Hector ending up in the wheelchair will be from something else.

Also, Chuck's definitely gonna die, isn't he?

Clea DuVall! God I wish Carnivàle would come back.

I'm going to be so upset if something happens to Nacho

OrangeRakoon wrote:I'm going to be so upset if something happens to Nacho

I hate to break it to you, but (spoilers!)

OrangeRakoon wrote:I'm going to be so upset if something happens to Nacho

I don't think any of the characters who don't continue on tho Breaking Bad have a very bright future ahead of them....