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Re: Better Call Saul - prequel to Breaking Bad. Mon (US) & Tue (Netflix UK) Season finale out now

Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2017 5:14 pm
by Photek
How does that count? He offered to not sue if he wasn't fired. It's not the same thing, like, at all.

Re: Better Call Saul - prequel to Breaking Bad. Mon (US) & Tue (Netflix UK) Season finale out now

Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2017 5:19 pm
by abcd
Maybe we're reading into this differently....

How I read it is....

Chuck flexes his muscles to make a point. Then he backs down and doesn't want to go through with the legal case.

Howard obviously doesn't like it, and pays him off so that he has no more leverage with HHM.

To go back to your original comment "When did Chuck go back on anything?". I interpret Chuck's actions as "going back on his decision".

Our interpretations are obviously different, but that's no problem.

Re: Better Call Saul - prequel to Breaking Bad. Mon (US) & Tue (Netflix UK) Season finale out now

Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2017 5:36 pm
by Moggy
Chuck was suing HHM for forcing him into retirement.

Chuck offered to drop the case if they didn't force him into retirement.

Chuck didn't go back on anything there. Although to be fair he looked a little guilty that it was Howard's own money. He still took the cheque though.

Re: Better Call Saul - prequel to Breaking Bad. Mon (US) & Tue (Netflix UK) Season finale out now

Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2017 8:05 pm
by Dangerblade
Deleted scene from the finale...



This show is such a black hole at times :(

Re: Better Call Saul - prequel to Breaking Bad. Mon (US) & Tue (Netflix UK) Season finale out now

Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2017 8:24 pm
by Moggy
Dangerblade wrote:Deleted scene from the finale...



This show is such a black hole at times :(


When they set up at the side of the road I thought a truck was going to plough into them. :lol:

Re: Better Call Saul - prequel to Breaking Bad. Mon (US) & Tue (Netflix UK) Season finale out now

Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2017 10:59 pm
by Ad7
Christ that was dark. Didn't think it would come to suicide.

Re: Better Call Saul - prequel to Breaking Bad. Mon (US) & Tue (Netflix UK) Season finale out now

Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2017 1:20 pm
by Photek
I think they captured why he killed himself very well with him destroying the house. He was at wits end, I wonder how much time will pass when the next Season passes. I'd like to see how Jimmy processes Chucks death.

Re: Better Call Saul - prequel to Breaking Bad. Mon (US) & Tue (Netflix UK) Season finale out now

Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2017 8:42 pm
by FatDaz
i didn't interpret as him killing himself deliberately. He had a massive relapse on account of being forced out of HHM and then his argument with Jimmy sent him spiralling into his madness. If
You look at his face while he was kicking the table it didn't seem as though he was focused on anything and just seemed in a daze. It didn't look like he had set the house up to burn that was just a byproduct of his obsession to find what was using electricity


Of course I could be wrong, he was in a pretty dark place.

Re: Better Call Saul - prequel to Breaking Bad. Mon (US) & Tue (Netflix UK) Season finale out now

Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2017 8:44 pm
by Ad7
It seemed pretty intentional to me, the last few kicks were really hard to get that thing to go.

Re: Better Call Saul - prequel to Breaking Bad. Mon (US) & Tue (Netflix UK) Season finale out now

Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2017 10:42 pm
by Oblomov Boblomov
Yeah he definitely did that on purpose.

Re: Better Call Saul - prequel to Breaking Bad. Mon (US) & Tue (Netflix UK) Season finale out now

Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2017 8:46 pm
by FatDaz
I definitely think he kicked it on purpose I just don't think he knew the consequences

Re: Better Call Saul - prequel to Breaking Bad. Mon (US) & Tue (Netflix UK) Season finale out now

Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2017 9:07 pm
by Photek
FatDaz wrote:I definitely think he kicked it on purpose I just don't think he knew the consequences

Wait what? How could've not know the consequences?

Re: Better Call Saul - prequel to Breaking Bad. Mon (US) & Tue (Netflix UK) Season finale out now

Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2017 9:16 pm
by chalkitdown
There is literally no ambiguity in the scene. He is ending his life, plain & simple. The writer of the episode speaks about it on the podcast, too.

Re: Better Call Saul - prequel to Breaking Bad. Mon (US) & Tue (Netflix UK) Season finale out now

Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2017 9:24 pm
by FatDaz
Photek wrote:
FatDaz wrote:I definitely think he kicked it on purpose I just don't think he knew the consequences

Wait what? How could've not know the consequences?


I just assumed he wanted the light away from him and given his relapse was unable to move to move to do it safely.

Like the destruction of the house, that was not setting kindling, that was his desperate search for what was using electricity. I don't recall the scene perfectly but it didn't seem like he has deliberately stacked things to burn just he was sat in a zombie like state and wanted the light away from him.

Though I understand his mindset would have been suicidal.

I'm guessing I'm the only one who saw it differently then :oops:

Re: Better Call Saul - prequel to Breaking Bad. Mon (US) & Tue (Netflix UK) Season finale out now

Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2017 9:43 pm
by Grumpy David
Seemed like an obvious suicide to me.

Just about the worst option to choose however, slow death by fire is about the scariest "normal" (i.e. Not tortured to death) way to go.

gooseberry fool loads of painkillers and alcohol or jumping off a cliff would make more sense in a less terrifying way.

Re: Better Call Saul - prequel to Breaking Bad. Mon (US) & Tue (Netflix UK) Season finale out now

Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2017 9:53 pm
by Tragic Magic
I'm with FatDaz. There were moments when he was kicking, that he really looked like he was out of it and didn't know what he was doing. No matter how messed up you are, I just can't imagine anyone wanting to burn to death.

Re: Better Call Saul - prequel to Breaking Bad. Renewed!

Posted: Thu Jun 29, 2017 9:02 pm
by Monkey Man

Re: Better Call Saul - prequel to Breaking Bad. Renewed!

Posted: Thu Jun 29, 2017 10:26 pm
by Death's Head
I enjoyed that series more than any of the others. I've not been reading this topic as I didn't want to see any spoilers, but there are plenty of ways you could interpret Chuck's intentions with the "suicide". If you were going to kill yourself, just do it. The way he was doing it could be seen as a "Russian roulette" approach where not knowing which kick would start it off, but continuously doing it, knowing it would come sooner or later.

Or you could interpret it as someone who was just in a total mental collapse and was just in a spasm like continuous action. Or maybe someone who just didn't care anymore, knew what was going to happen if it fell but wasn't bothered whether it fell or not, or maybe felt that way at first but as the kicks seemed to get harder towards the end, it was taking too long.

Re: Better Call Saul - prequel to Breaking Bad. Renewed!

Posted: Thu Jun 29, 2017 10:49 pm
by Ad7
You could say he was getting a kick out of it.

Re: Better Call Saul - prequel to Breaking Bad. Returns 6th August

Posted: Sat Jun 30, 2018 5:25 pm
by Errkal
Most of the way through season 3, I've been meaning to watch this ages and its great, am very tempted to rewatch breaking bad again.