US Election 2008 - McCain Oven Chips elected president

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PostRe: US Election 2008 - McCain elected president
by Earfolds » Wed Nov 05, 2008 11:43 am

That is brilliant :D

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PostRe: US Election 2008 - McCain elected president
by Stig » Wed Nov 05, 2008 11:55 am

Just found out: Well done Obama :D !

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PostRe: US Election 2008 - McCain elected president
by Slartibartfast » Wed Nov 05, 2008 11:56 am

Probably been said already, but it really is a superb losing speech McCain delivered. He is very much better left to be the liberal Republican in the Senate than the pseudo neo-conservative presidential candidate he was having to pretend to be. He really has had an incredible life and is rightly respected by nearly every America, Democrat and Republican.

But Obama as president is amazing. I've never been keen on anyone being anti-American, they forget the intelligence, compassion and honesty that the majority of Americans exhibit. Now they have a president that represents these qualities we can get back to actually liking the nation that, let's face it, still is the most powerful on earth.

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PostRe: US Election 2008 - McCain elected president
by Phatman » Wed Nov 05, 2008 11:58 am

Jurrasic Park!

I stayed up till he broke the magic 270 mark to be sure, but it seemed pretty clear Obama had it won after winning New Hampshire and Pennsyllvania, the only two blue states McCain seemed to have a chance in.

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PostRe: US Election 2008 - McCain elected president
by Cuttooth » Wed Nov 05, 2008 12:10 pm

What's funny is that I'm really not surprised at all.

The result was just a bit boring, should have been some excitement with Obama losing a blue state like New Hampshire.

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PostRe: US Election 2008 - McCain elected president
by new*allusion » Wed Nov 05, 2008 12:23 pm

Somebody fancy making gis out of this news and...

[youtubeuk]http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=HfHX3mAbyrs[/youtubeuk]? :lol:

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PostRe: US Election 2008 - McCain elected president
by Eighthours » Wed Nov 05, 2008 12:26 pm

For all the talk of racism, it's amusing to note that it appears that 97% of black voters in the USA voted for Obama last night!

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PostRe: US Election 2008 - McCain elected president
by Alvin Flummux » Wed Nov 05, 2008 12:30 pm

I had watching Channel 4 News muted at the same time as playing that video, and with all the celebratory scenes on TV at the time that music and all the cheering crowds felt quite fitting. :lol:

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PostRe: US Election 2008 - McCain elected president
by Pontius Pilate » Wed Nov 05, 2008 12:31 pm

90% of whom, probably never voted in their lives before now :mrgreen:

I don't think that's racism though, or is that a problem. These people were given a reason to vote this time round, and they choose to take it.

Well done Obama!

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PostRe: US Election 2008 - McCain elected president
by Cal » Wed Nov 05, 2008 12:31 pm

Will Obama's election to the Presidency actually 'change' anything?

I wish I could be sure. Amidst all the talk of 'history being made' (it is), it's easy to lose sight of what this man will or will not do to fundamentally alter America's domestic and foreign policy. This is the great unknown, and the cynic in me would suggest it would not be unthinkable to see a political landscape much unchanged six months from now unless Obama can really deliver the 'change' he has promised not only America, but the world.

As ever, time will tell.

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PostRe: US Election 2008 - McCain elected president
by Hexx » Wed Nov 05, 2008 12:32 pm

I wonder if half the people in this thread pay attention to UK politics...anyone watch PMQs for example?

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PostRe: US Election 2008 - McCain elected president
by Pontius Pilate » Wed Nov 05, 2008 12:33 pm

Cal wrote:Will Obama's election to the Presidency actually 'change' anything?

I wish I could be sure. Amidst all the talk of 'history being made' (it is), it's easy to lose sight of what this man will or will not do to fundamentally alter America's domestic and foreign policy. This is the great unknown, and the cynic in me would suggest it would not be unthinkable to see a political landscape much unchanged six months from now unless Obama can really deliver the 'change' he has promised not only America, but the world.

As ever, time will tell.


I think the biggest change that will happen almost immediately, is the world's perception of the USA. A lot of people unfairly bash Americah :x , but president's like GWB really didn't help the country out. Barrack on the other hand, seems very likable.

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PostRe: US Election 2008 - McCain elected president
by Alvin Flummux » Wed Nov 05, 2008 12:35 pm

Cal wrote:Will Obama's election to the Presidency actually 'change' anything?

I wish I could be sure. Amidst all the talk of 'history being made' (it is), it's easy to lose sight of what this man will or will not do to fundamentally alter America's domestic and foreign policy. This is the great unknown, and the cynic in me would suggest it would not be unthinkable to see a political landscape much unchanged six months from now unless Obama can really deliver the 'change' he has promised not only America, but the world.

As ever, time will tell.


They almost have an outright majority in the Senate, with which they could push anything through, but it's good that they don't quite have it because a government that can get anything through, even if they're the "good guys", is one to be feared.

They're also going to be quite wary of avoiding what happened to Clinton when he was in a similar place in, er, 1994 I think it was. They won't want to risk a Republican senate landslide in the next elections, so they're going to take the changes kinda slow, make sure they get done right (I hope).

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PostRe: US Election 2008 - McCain elected president
by Cal » Wed Nov 05, 2008 12:40 pm

And now: A Message from Michael Moore (for it is he)...

Wednesday, November 5th, 2008

Friends,

Who among us is not at a loss for words? Tears pour out. Tears of joy. Tears of relief. A stunning, whopping landslide of hope in a time of deep despair.

In a nation that was founded on genocide and then built on the backs of slaves, it was an unexpected moment, shocking in its simplicity: Barack Obama, a good man, a black man, said he would bring change to Washington, and the majority of the country liked that idea. The racists were present throughout the campaign and in the voting booth. But they are no longer the majority, and we will see their flame of hate fizzle out in our lifetime.

There was another important "first" last night. Never before in our history has an avowed anti-war candidate been elected president during a time of war. I hope President-elect Obama remembers that as he considers expanding the war in Afghanistan. The faith we now have will be lost if he forgets the main issue on which he beat his fellow Dems in the primaries and then a great war hero in the general election: The people of America are tired of war. Sick and tired. And their voice was loud and clear yesterday.

It's been an inexcusable 44 years since a Democrat running for president has received even just 51% of the vote. That's because most Americans haven't really liked the Democrats. They see them as rarely having the guts to get the job done or stand up for the working people they say they support. Well, here's their chance. It has been handed to them, via the voting public, in the form of a man who is not a party hack, not a set-for-life Beltway bureaucrat. Will he now become one of them, or will he force them to be more like him? We pray for the latter.

But today we celebrate this triumph of decency over personal attack, of peace over war, of intelligence over a belief that Adam and Eve rode around on dinosaurs just 6,000 years ago. What will it be like to have a smart president? Science, banished for eight years, will return. Imagine supporting our country's greatest minds as they seek to cure illness, discover new forms of energy, and work to save the planet. I know, pinch me.

We may, just possibly, also see a time of refreshing openness, enlightenment and creativity. The arts and the artists will not be seen as the enemy. Perhaps art will be explored in order to discover the greater truths. When FDR was ushered in with his landslide in 1932, what followed was Frank Capra and Preston Sturgis, Woody Guthrie and John Steinbeck, Dorothea Lange and Orson Welles. All week long I have been inundated with media asking me, "gee, Mike, what will you do now that Bush is gone?" Are they kidding? What will it be like to work and create in an environment that nurtures and supports film and the arts, science and invention, and the freedom to be whatever you want to be? Watch a thousand flowers bloom! We've entered a new era, and if I could sum up our collective first thought of this new era, it is this: Anything Is Possible.

An African American has been elected President of the United States! Anything is possible! We can wrestle our economy out of the hands of the reckless rich and return it to the people. Anything is possible! Every citizen can be guaranteed health care. Anything is possible! We can stop melting the polar ice caps. Anything is possible! Those who have committed war crimes will be brought to justice. Anything is possible.

We really don't have much time. There is big work to do. But this is the week for all of us to revel in this great moment. Be humble about it. Do not treat the Republicans in your life the way they have treated you the past eight years. Show them the grace and goodness that Barack Obama exuded throughout the campaign. Though called every name in the book, he refused to lower himself to the gutter and sling the mud back. Can we follow his example? I know, it will be hard.

I want to thank everyone who gave of their time and resources to make this victory happen. It's been a long road, and huge damage has been done to this great country, not to mention to many of you who have lost your jobs, gone bankrupt from medical bills, or suffered through a loved one being shipped off to Iraq. We will now work to repair this damage, and it won't be easy.

But what a way to start! Barack Hussein Obama, the 44th President of the United States. Wow. Seriously, wow.

Yours,
Michael Moore
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As emailed to Cal this morning.

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PostRe: US Election 2008 - McCain elected president
by gaminglegend » Wed Nov 05, 2008 12:41 pm

The major thing of course is his skin colour.

Although idiots in USA on TV this morning the african americans shouting "this is our country now" - no wonder theres fighting and violence. Seriously some people were acting as if Obama was going to collect all non white folk and give them the power to the world :fp:

It's great for America and the rest of the world, is policies are sound, his mindset and the fact that his party is democractic can only solve to usher America into a new era. Pretty much a historic election for USA

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PostRe: US Election 2008 - McCain elected president
by Drawlight » Wed Nov 05, 2008 12:54 pm

Eighthours wrote:For all the talk of racism, it's amusing to note that it appears that 97% of black voters in the USA voted for Obama last night!



The vast, vast majority (90%+, I believe) of African Americans vote democrat. Its no suprise whatsoever.

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PostRe: US Election 2008 - McCain elected president
by new*allusion » Wed Nov 05, 2008 1:04 pm

“McCain himself rarely spoke to Palin during the campaign, and aides kept him in the dark about the details of her spending on clothes because they were sure he would be offended. Palin asked to speak along with McCain at his Arizona concession speech Tuesday night, but campaign strategist Steve Schmidt vetoed the request.”

Lets imagine how that would have gone... :lol: :fp:

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PostRe: US Election 2008 - McCain elected president
by Eighthours » Wed Nov 05, 2008 1:10 pm

Michael Moore wrote:There was another important "first" last night. Never before in our history has an avowed anti-war candidate been elected president during a time of war. I hope President-elect Obama remembers that as he considers expanding the war in Afghanistan. The faith we now have will be lost if he forgets the main issue on which he beat his fellow Dems in the primaries and then a great war hero in the general election: The people of America are tired of war. Sick and tired. And their voice was loud and clear yesterday.


:lol:

Moore's such a bullshitter. He knows as well as anyone that the exit polls presented the main voter issue as 60% Economy, and only 9% Iraq. :roll:

He has to face facts: his tireless crusade turned out to be a sideshow, and his attempts to spin "what the voters were thinking" as fitting his own agenda won't work.

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PostRe: US Election 2008 - McCain elected president
by BobbyDigital » Wed Nov 05, 2008 1:11 pm

Yes, OBAMA !!!

So glad he got the result he deserved. Am I right in saying though that he ain't get the 60+ majority in the Senate???

Either way, it was amazing to see history be made and change gone come.

Also, does UK politics need someone like Obama now??? He mad people interested in politics again, not only in the USA but across the world.

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PostRe: US Election 2008 - McCain elected president
by Hulohot » Wed Nov 05, 2008 1:15 pm

Really happy for Obama. This is really amazing really.


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