SPECTRE (Bond 24) - Oct 26, 2015

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by Rightey » Wed Nov 11, 2015 12:06 am

I just saw this now, and have to admit I've never actually watched any Bond films outside the Daniel Craig ones. I've seen clips but they always seem too horrendously cheesy to enjoy.

That said, this seemed like one of those movies...

All the cliches you associate with Bond were there, stupid villains making dumb speeches, like in that drill scene. Incompetent henchmen, none of the bad guys can aim a gun properly, or that big guy with the fingernails who decides not to bring any back up or anything on the train.

It was fun to watch but some of the plot holes are also a bit hard to figure out. How did this guy become head of a global crime syndicate? They never describe him as being especially smart of talented or anything, so as far as the movie is concerned it just makes it seem like it's natural to start an evil organization because your dad spent some extra time with another kid.

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PostRe: SPECTRE (Bond 24) - Oct 26, 2015
by Ecno » Wed Nov 11, 2015 2:36 am

Watched QoS last night. Out of all the Craig Bond fields it has the best plot, because it actually makes sense.

Casino Royale- Why do we have to play cards against Le Chiffre? Can't we just arrest/kill him? At the end of the game Bond even says to Felix he's all yours. (And then Felix proceeds to do strawberry float all leading to Bond getting his balls smashed in)
Skyfall- the villains plot makes no sense and requires some impossible timing.
Spectre- Again the villains plot makes no sense.

QoS, throw coup in exchange for water, sell water. It is the least exciting though.

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PostRe: SPECTRE (Bond 24) - Oct 26, 2015
by Gandalf » Wed Nov 11, 2015 8:15 am

Saw this last night, really enjoyed it. I think Skyfall still slightly beats this, though mainly because it was shorter and the pacing was better.
I loved all the little nods to previous Bond films Fight on the train, snow carriages, bomb in the watch etc and I found this one had more humour than any of Craig's Bond films. A few nice one liners and the C on-liner M came out with, had the audience laughing, but then he corrected them! I think the brain torture scene was to fill in why Blofeld was doing what he was doing, and to show a 'Dr. Evil' side to his character.

Anyway, 8/10 for me.

Casino Royale> Skyfall> Spectre>>>>>>>Quantum of Solace

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PostRe: SPECTRE (Bond 24) - Oct 26, 2015
by BOR » Thu Nov 12, 2015 9:16 am

Hmm...

I will leave this here and it's interesting opinion about the ending.

http://www.ew.com/article/2015/11/10/spectre-ending

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PostRe: SPECTRE (Bond 24) - Oct 26, 2015
by Skippy » Thu Nov 12, 2015 10:09 am

BOR wrote:Hmm...

I will leave this here and it's interesting opinion about the ending.

http://www.ew.com/article/2015/11/10/spectre-ending


"The film makes no sense but rather than just admit it's a bad, poorly-written movie I'm going to do mental gymnastics to create an out for the filmmakers."

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PostRe: SPECTRE (Bond 24) - Oct 26, 2015
by Herdanos » Thu Nov 12, 2015 4:38 pm

Skippy wrote:"The film makes no sense but rather than just admit it's a bad, poorly-written movie I'm going to do mental gymnastics to create an out for the filmmakers."


Said Skippy, about Skyfall. ;)

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PostRe: SPECTRE (Bond 24) - Oct 26, 2015
by Skippy » Thu Nov 12, 2015 4:56 pm

You're obsessed man :lol: I think Skyfall is a better film than Spectre, but it's not a film without flaws.

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PostRe: SPECTRE (Bond 24) - Oct 26, 2015
by Dual » Sat Nov 14, 2015 7:17 pm

I thought Monica belucci was crap not sure why everyone likes her so much lol

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PostRe: SPECTRE (Bond 24) - Oct 26, 2015
by Gandalf » Sat Nov 14, 2015 9:31 pm

Dual wrote:I thought Monica belucci was crap not sure why everyone likes her so much lol


Wasn't too sure why she was cast? A. N. Other woman would have sufficed, so that Bond could get rapey with her....

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PostRe: SPECTRE (Bond 24) - Oct 26, 2015
by BTB » Sat Nov 14, 2015 9:34 pm

Saw it yesterday, I did enjoy it. But not sure where I'd rank it out of all the bond films. If heard it was more like the older films, but didn't get that too much when watching it.

Some great scenes and some average scenes that could have been a lot better. I assume this will be the last Daniel Craig one (has that been confirmed?). Interesting to see who/what route they go down.

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PostRe: SPECTRE (Bond 24) - Oct 26, 2015
by Memento Mori » Sat Nov 14, 2015 9:59 pm

1>3>4>2 wrote: I've never seen any James Bonds outside of Craig's films and Goldeneye so it didn't bother me.

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by 7256930752 » Sun Nov 15, 2015 10:01 pm

Saw it tonight, I did enjoy it but always had the feeling I missed something really important as I wasn't entirely sure why things were happening, especially the doctor falling in love so quickly. Was disappointed that C turned out to be a baddie as there was so much foreshadowing I was sure it was going to be a bluff. I liked Waltz as a bad guy but I wasn't sure what his motives were and why. He claimed to be a visionary but what would a global surveillance network actually help him to achieve?

As I said I did enjoy it but I was hoping for something more satisfying from the attempt to link the Craig Bond stories together than an organisational chart with Blofeld above all the main bad guys.

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PostRe: SPECTRE (Bond 24) - Oct 26, 2015
by Tragic Magic » Sat Nov 21, 2015 3:02 pm

Finally going to get round to seeing this on Monday. Gonna go out for breakfast and see an early showing. :)

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PostRe: SPECTRE (Bond 24) - Oct 26, 2015
by tomvek » Sun Nov 22, 2015 3:20 pm

Skippy wrote:Casino Royale >>>>> Skyfall >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Spectre > Quantum of Solace

After seeing it again I'd definitely settle on this order.

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PostRe: SPECTRE (Bond 24) - Oct 26, 2015
by Imrahil » Sun Nov 22, 2015 3:28 pm

The order's right, but Skyfall is much further to the right for me. To the point where it's barely worth separating the 3.

Casino Royale is so much better than the rest combined, it's painful.

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PostRe: SPECTRE (Bond 24) - Oct 26, 2015
by Tragic Magic » Mon Nov 23, 2015 2:47 pm

Really, really disappointed with that. Cinematography was incredible but everything else was a bit of a let down. So much potential and could've been great but it was very meandering and lacking in depth.

Christopher Waltz was completely wasted on this. If you're going to have a "mastermind" character, you really need to flesh them out and build the relationship with the protagonist and, more importantly, the viewers. Having him in one, bland scene and then expecting me to care about a big reveal is insulting.

I could go into real detail about everything I didn't like but I can't really be bothered because it's probably all been said before.

It definitely felt like a committee had listed everything they consider makes a Bond film and forced the director to cram it all in without any regard for the story.

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PostRe: SPECTRE (Bond 24) - Oct 26, 2015
by Tragic Magic » Mon Nov 23, 2015 2:49 pm

Also Casino Royale is infinitely better than all the other Craig films. I think it actually hurt Spectre that they kept reminding me of Le Chiffre.

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PostRe: SPECTRE (Bond 24) - Oct 26, 2015
by 7256930752 » Mon Nov 23, 2015 3:12 pm

Having watched Casino Royalle again, I think it's being massively overrated. Don't get me wrong, it's good but for me Skyfall is the best Craig film.

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PostRe: SPECTRE (Bond 24) - Oct 26, 2015
by CitizenErased » Mon Nov 23, 2015 3:34 pm

Tragic Magic wrote:Also Casino Royale is infinitely better than all the other Craig films. I think it actually hurt Spectre that they kept reminding me of Le Chiffre.


Agreed. I don't even get all the Skyfall love tbh.

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PostRe: SPECTRE (Bond 24) - Oct 26, 2015
by Skippy » Fri Dec 25, 2015 12:51 pm

gooseberry fool THE BED. Radiohead DID do a Bond theme for Spectre, and they just released it...

[soundcloud]https://soundcloud.com/radiohead/spectre[/soundcloud]

Beats the gooseberry fool out of Sam Smith's song!

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