Brexit Thread 2

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How would you vote if we had to vote again?

Leave
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6%
Remain
121
94%
 
Total votes: 129
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by Moggy » Tue Jul 10, 2018 9:44 am

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Photek wrote:If May survives this, with all the menalists going, surely this could all lead to a soft Brexit?

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Not from what they were saying on newsnight yesterday, assuming this is correct they were saying that the legal position that was voted through parliament is that we will leave the eu on the 31st March 2019 in a hard Brexit if no other deal is agreed. I’m not convinced this has made any deal anymore likely. Everything is so fractured I can just see them arguing all the way up to the 31st and then suddenly we’ve exited the EU.

I forgot March 2019 was the deadline, WTF has DD being doing for 2 strawberry floating years? Jesus christ.

This Whitepaper is due to be ratified by October so hopefully, with it being published Thursday, it will be able to negotiate the finer points. The EU has said the same thing since negotiations started, this is the first time the UK have finally put a proposal together, laughable.


The question is will it be agreed?

Not at the start no, May phoned our PM Varadkar last week with some details of the white paper and he seems happy about what was discussed, not with everything, the absense of talking about the back stop has been flagged but it's the closest the EU and UK have been to any indication so far.


Just wait until Gibraltar finally comes up. :lol:

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PostRe: Brexit Thread 2
by Return_of_the_STAR » Tue Jul 10, 2018 10:16 am

If as part of any deal we agree to free movement of EU citizens then this whole shambles should be forgotten about. That is the main reason people voted to leave. If that’s not achieved then why should put the country in a worse off position just so that we can say we’ve left the EU.

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PostRe: Brexit Thread 2
by DML » Tue Jul 10, 2018 11:11 am

Return_of_the_STAR wrote:If as part of any deal we agree to free movement of EU citizens then this whole shambles should be forgotten about. That is the main reason people voted to leave. If that’s not achieved then why should put the country in a worse off position just so that we can say we’ve left the EU.


In the interests of maintaining balance between two warring sides, what the new outlets are too scared to tell you is that having no free movement is basically impossible. That is the case for many of the 'benefits' of Brexit. Its why its all bollocks and always has been.

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by KK » Tue Jul 10, 2018 11:23 am

New polls:

Sky News wrote:Britain turns against Theresa May on Brexit, Sky Data poll finds

Some 64% of Britons do not trust the PM to run Brexit negotiations and just 22% now trust her to get the best possible deal.

The British public no longer has faith in Theresa May to negotiate Brexit, with two in three saying they do not trust her to get the best possible deal, a Sky Data poll reveals.

Some 64% of Britons do not trust her to run Brexit negotiations - up 31 percentage points from when we last asked the question in March 2017.

Just 22% now trust her to get the best possible deal, down 32 points from last year, with 14% unsure.

In March 2017, some 54% trusted her to get the best Brexit deal possible and just 33% did not trust her.

Just 30% of Britons think Theresa May is the best Conservative to lead Brexit negotiations, with 44% saying someone else within the party would be better suited, and 26% answered that they don't know.

Britons are uncertain what the likeliest outcome is of Brexit on a day of government chaos.

Those believing that there will be a deal of some sort agreed with the EU are effectively neck-and-neck with people who think there will be a Brexit with no deal agreed - 37% expect a deal, 34% expect Brexit to happen without a deal being agreed.

Just over one in five - 22% - think the likeliest outcome is that Britain remains in the EU, while 7% say they don't know.


The annual British Social Attitudes survey, carried out by the National Centre for Social Research, has revealed that the number of Britons who want the UK to leave the EU has increased since the referendum.

The study said 36% of interviewees wanted to leave the EU, up from 22% in 2015. The proportion who wanted no change dropped to 19%, down from 27%. 7% meanwhile wanted to increase the powers of Brussels or move toward a European government.

Voters in Britain have emerged from the Brexit process even more critical of Britain's membership of the EU, researchers found.

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PostRe: Brexit Thread 2
by Photek » Tue Jul 10, 2018 11:26 am

Disaster snatched from the jaws of success.

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by Rex Kramer » Tue Jul 10, 2018 11:32 am

KK wrote:New polls:


The annual British Social Attitudes survey, carried out by the National Centre for Social Research, has revealed that the number of Britons who want the UK to leave the EU has increased since the referendum.

The study said 36% of interviewees wanted to leave the EU, up from 22% in 2015. The proportion who wanted no change dropped to 19%, down from 27%. 7% meanwhile wanted to increase the powers of Brussels or move toward a European government.

Voters in Britain have emerged from the Brexit process even more critical of Britain's membership of the EU, researchers found.

It's like a bunch of toddlers being told not to stick the fork in the electrical socket.

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PostRe: Brexit Thread 2
by Hyperion » Tue Jul 10, 2018 11:51 am


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PostRe: Brexit Thread 2
by lex-man » Tue Jul 10, 2018 12:28 pm

Does that mean that 38% of people don't know or don't care what happens?

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PostRe: Brexit Thread 2
by satriales » Tue Jul 10, 2018 4:11 pm

lex-man wrote:Does that mean that 38% of people don't know or don't care what happens?

Yes.

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by Errkal » Tue Jul 10, 2018 4:24 pm

lex-man wrote:Does that mean that 38% of people don't know or don't care what happens?

Yes because they didn't vote and so their opinion doesn't count in relation to the referendum that happened. You can be super for the EU but if you dont vote then it dont mean gooseberry fool.

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PostRe: Brexit Thread 2
by Hexx » Tue Jul 10, 2018 4:59 pm

TOO SLOW OLD MAN

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PostRe: Brexit Thread 2
by suzzopher » Tue Jul 10, 2018 4:59 pm

I wonder if any Tories will quit today.

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by Errkal » Tue Jul 10, 2018 5:00 pm

but how many are quitting and why?

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PostRe: Brexit Thread 2
by Knoyleo » Tue Jul 10, 2018 5:00 pm

How is Hexx still this bad at embedding tweets? :lol:

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PostRe: Brexit Thread 2
by Hexx » Tue Jul 10, 2018 5:01 pm

Knoyleo wrote:How is Hexx still this bad at embedding tweets? :lol:


I blame the heat, the forum software and Russian interference. In that order.

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PostRe: Brexit Thread 2
by Moggy » Tue Jul 10, 2018 5:04 pm

Hexx wrote:TOO SLOW OLD MAN


Not too slow, it’s called taking the piss.


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