Brexit Thread 2

[Moggy]

Would this bridge be built before or after the bridge to France?

After the bridge to Ireland but before the bridge to Canada.

[Tafdolphin]

Would this bridge be built before or after the bridge to France?

After the bridge to Ireland but before the bridge to Canada.

[Lex-Man]

Would a lo of people actually use the bridge to Northern Ireland? It would go into a sparsely populated area of Scotland. Even if you were going to Glasgow or Edinburgh it would be quicker to fly.

Edit: There is something quite ironic about a man who specializes it pissing off other countries being obsessed with building bridges.

[Squinty]

He must know someone who owns an engineering company who specialises in building bridges. That's the only reason I can think for this.

[Moggy]

Would a lo of people actually use the bridge to Northern Ireland? It would go into a sparsely populated area of Scotland. Even if you were going to Glasgow or Edinburgh it would be quicker to fly.

As well as the bridge, he’ll also build an island airport in the middle of the Irish Sea.

[Errkal]

Will there be a customs post in the middle of the bridge?

[Garth]

twitter.com/RidgeOnSunday/status/1046326395192967168

[Squinty]

The toothache the Tory party has for the last 30 years. strawberry float sake.

[Moggy]

The toothache the Tory party has for the last 30 years. strawberry float sake.

They might have toothache, but for the rest of us it’s more like something out of Hostel.

[Moggy]

“WAAAAAHH! We are leaving the club but they won’t let us continue having the benefits. It’s like a prison!!”

twitter.com/bbcpolitics/status/1046433874257956864

[Garth]

I don't see how it's anything remotely like a prison. They're not forcing us to stay, and it's perfectly reasonable to say if we want some of the benefits of the club we have to accept the club's rules. The Tory red lines, party infighting and inability to put forward a workable proposal are what's getting in the way of a deal.

[Moggy]

I don't see how it's anything remotely like a prison. They're not forcing us to stay, and it's perfectly reasonable to say if we want some of the benefits of the club we have to accept the club's rules. The Tory red lines, party infighting and inability to put forward a workable proposal are what's getting in the way of a deal.

It’s a prison that you can leave at any time, but they won’t let you back in to sleep in a cell unless you fulfil certain criteria.

[Squinty]

twitter.com/OFOCBrexit/status/1046361581892907008

[Lagamorph]

twitter.com/OFOCBrexit/status/1046361581892907008

Yes but remember, it's the EU that are breaking the Good Friday agreement by refusing to give us a deal, not the UK breaking it.

[Sprouty]

Still can't see Brexit happening without another election, the margins are way too tight in government to get any deal, or indeed no deal voted through parliament. In that case, would May call a general election or a second referendum?

[Lex-Man]

Still can't see Brexit happening without another election, the margins are way too tight in government to get any deal, or indeed no deal voted through parliament. In that case, would May call a general election or a second referendum?

But she's backed herself into a corner. She'll look really weak if she backs down now. They'd have to be a leadership challenge or a massive revolt in parliament to get a second referendum.

[Meep]

It's a bit like signing up to a service then complaining you can't give it up easily because the way you have organised your life has made you dependent on the service. I mean, this is true, but it is not the fault of the service provider. It is not the fault of the EU that large parts of the UK economy have become dependent on frictionless trade; that was a benefit that the UK explicitly signed up for. The EU also has no more responsibility to see that the UK retains those benefits than a service provider is obligated to continue facilitating a service after you unsubscribe.

[Moggy]

Still can't see Brexit happening without another election, the margins are way too tight in government to get any deal, or indeed no deal voted through parliament. In that case, would May call a general election or a second referendum?

It doesn’t work like that unfortunately.

If Parliament can’t agree then we crash out of the EU with no deal. Article 50 has been triggered and would need Parliament (and the EU!) to agree an extension.

May can call for a general election but Parliament would have to agree it (with a two-thirds majority). I’d imagine Labour would almost certainly support it and it’d happen, but it’s not guaranteed just because May wants it.

A second referendum would also require Parliament’s backing, again it’d probably happen, but isn’t guaranteed. May would also have to get EU backing for an extension (as there isn’t really enough time left otherwise) and also get the EU to confirm they are happy with the plans.

It’s an absolute mess.

[more heat than light]

Apart from making the government look incompetent, I can't think of a single reason not to at least ask the EU for an extension. We have no workable plan, and no sane person thinks No Deal is a good idea.

[Return_of_the_STAR]

I never understand what the rush was to trigger article 50 in the first place. I partly blame the eu for this as they insisted on it being triggered before they would even discuss anything. It would have been far more sensible to have spent years negotiating and designing something workable before triggering it. Around 80 yrs would have been enough