Brexit Thread 2

[Garth]

May calling out Corbyns hypocrisy.

"You quote the Leader of the EU saying the deal can't be negotiated then go onto say that the deal must be renegotiated"

I don't like May but it was great to see the blatant ridiculousness called out.

Technically it's the only deal they will offer with May's red lines.

[Garth]

twitter.com/BBCNews/status/1072158915289182209

twitter.com/alexwickham/status/1072158590868340736

[DML]

Please make her stop talking. This vote was to stop this endless going around in circles.

[Lagamorph]

May calling out Corbyns hypocrisy.

"You quote the Leader of the EU saying the deal can't be negotiated then go onto say that the deal must be renegotiated"

I don't like May but it was great to see the blatant ridiculousness called out.

Technically it's the only deal they will offer with May's red lines.

Didn't May abandon a bunch of the red lines anyway?

It's the Freedom of Movement Red Line she kept and Corbyn has always said that's basically his Red Line as well.

[Hexx]

May calling out Corbyns hypocrisy.

"You quote the Leader of the EU saying the deal can't be negotiated then go onto say that the deal must be renegotiated"

I don't like May but it was great to see the blatant ridiculousness called out.

Technically it's the only deal they will offer with May's red lines.

Didn't May abandon a bunch of the red lines anyway?

It's the Freedom of Movement Red Line she kept and Corbyn has always said that's basically his Red Line as well.

Well no.
Because Lab have said FoM will end.

Orrrrr HAVE THEY!

https://labour.org.uk/issues/labours-plan-brexit/

Lab are being absolutely honest. FoM will end when we leave. Because it has to. That's a fact. They can't say "FoM" will continue because it literally won't They'll then negotiate something else, as good as FoM, which will allow us to stay in the Customs Union. They're just being really cagey about it (and not saying, say, "FoM will be reintroduced") because Corbyn is like, really smart, and playing 6D chess.
or
FoM will end. They will then get Customs Union membership WITHOUT FoM due to their expert negotiation strategy because Corbyn et al are master negotiators that will get the EU to divide it's 4 freedoms despite them saying that will never happen (And then Lab will come up with a new immigration strategy)
or
Their proposed Brexit deal is absolutely a magic unicorn they'll never get

How you read their "ambiguity" is up to you.

[Lex-Man]

May calling out Corbyns hypocrisy.

"You quote the Leader of the EU saying the deal can't be negotiated then go onto say that the deal must be renegotiated"

I don't like May but it was great to see the blatant ridiculousness called out.

Technically it's the only deal they will offer with May's red lines.

Didn't May abandon a bunch of the red lines anyway?

It's the Freedom of Movement Red Line she kept and Corbyn has always said that's basically his Red Line as well.

Well no.
Because Lab have said FoM will end.

Orrrrr HAVE THEY!

https://labour.org.uk/issues/labours-plan-brexit/

Lab are being absolutely honest. FoM will end when we leave. Because it has to. That's a fact. They can't say "FoM" will continue because it literally won't They'll then negotiate something else, as good as FoM, which will allow us to stay in the Customs Union. They're just being really cagey about it (and not saying, say, "FoM will be reintroduced") because Corbyn is like, really smart, and playing 6D chess.
or
FoM will end. They will then get Customs Union membership WITHOUT FoM due to their expert negotiation strategy because Corbyn et al are master negotiators that will get the EU to divide it's 4 freedoms despite them saying that will never happen (And then Lab will come up with a new immigration strategy)
or
Their proposed Brexit deal is absolutely a magic unicorn they'll never get

How you read their "ambiguity" is up to you.

So he's basically lying or delusional?

[Hexx]

May calling out Corbyns hypocrisy.

"You quote the Leader of the EU saying the deal can't be negotiated then go onto say that the deal must be renegotiated"

I don't like May but it was great to see the blatant ridiculousness called out.

Technically it's the only deal they will offer with May's red lines.

Didn't May abandon a bunch of the red lines anyway?

It's the Freedom of Movement Red Line she kept and Corbyn has always said that's basically his Red Line as well.

Well no.
Because Lab have said FoM will end.

Orrrrr HAVE THEY!

https://labour.org.uk/issues/labours-plan-brexit/

Lab are being absolutely honest. FoM will end when we leave. Because it has to. That's a fact. They can't say "FoM" will continue because it literally won't They'll then negotiate something else, as good as FoM, which will allow us to stay in the Customs Union. They're just being really cagey about it (and not saying, say, "FoM will be reintroduced") because Corbyn is like, really smart, and playing 6D chess.
or
FoM will end. They will then get Customs Union membership WITHOUT FoM due to their expert negotiation strategy because Corbyn et al are master negotiators that will get the EU to divide it's 4 freedoms despite them saying that will never happen (And then Lab will come up with a new immigration strategy)
or
Their proposed Brexit deal is absolutely a magic unicorn they'll never get

How you read their "ambiguity" is up to you.

So he's basically lying or delusional?

Just calling it how I (Edit- not you! Oppps) see it. There are other ways to read it (and summarize opinions on it.) It's right there in the link

[Lagamorph]

May calling out Corbyns hypocrisy.

"You quote the Leader of the EU saying the deal can't be negotiated then go onto say that the deal must be renegotiated"

I don't like May but it was great to see the blatant ridiculousness called out.

Technically it's the only deal they will offer with May's red lines.

Didn't May abandon a bunch of the red lines anyway?

It's the Freedom of Movement Red Line she kept and Corbyn has always said that's basically his Red Line as well.

Well no.
Because Lab have said FoM will end.

Orrrrr HAVE THEY!

https://labour.org.uk/issues/labours-plan-brexit/

Lab are being absolutely honest. FoM will end when we leave. Because it has to. That's a fact. They can't say "FoM" will continue because it literally won't They'll then negotiate something else, as good as FoM, which will allow us to stay in the Customs Union. They're just being really cagey about it (and not saying, say, "FoM will be reintroduced") because Corbyn is like, really smart, and playing 6D chess.
or
FoM will end. They will then get Customs Union membership WITHOUT FoM due to their expert negotiation strategy because Corbyn et al are master negotiators that will get the EU to divide it's 4 freedoms despite them saying that will never happen (And then Lab will come up with a new immigration strategy)
or
Their proposed Brexit deal is absolutely a magic unicorn they'll never get

How you read their "ambiguity" is up to you.

So he's basically lying or delusional?

That sums up every pro-Brexit politician from Day one, not just Corbyn.

[Hexx]

twitter.com/davidallengreen/status/1072159587661475840

[Lagamorph]

twitter.com/davidallengreen/status/1072159587661475840

The government have already basically told him to strawberry float off.

twitter.com/alexwickham/status/1072158590868340736

[Hexx]

Hexx's Prediction

May's hoping to run the clock out - and then leave Parliament with 2 options. No Deal (the default current course) or Her Deal.

[Cuttooth]

After today why aren't PV/Remain Tories adding to the letters to topple May as PM? Surely they could make the difference?

[DML]

After today why aren't PV/Remain Tories adding to the letters to topple May as PM? Surely they could make the difference?

Because believe it or not...she won't lose the vote.

They don't want a Brexiteer taking over before she falls.

[Moggy]

After today why aren't PV/Remain Tories adding to the letters to topple May as PM? Surely they could make the difference?

The trouble is all the front runners for Tory leadership are far more Brexity than May. It’d be a hell of a risk for them to oust her, as they could end up with Johnson/Rees-Mogg.

[Squinty]

You couldn't make this up.

[Moggy]

You couldn't make this up.

You could, but every TV and movie production company would laugh you out of the building for being too far fetched.

[Moggy]

twitter.com/europeelects/status/1072156292159021062

[Garth]

Wow!

[Squinty]

You couldn't make this up.

You could, but every TV and movie production company would laugh you out of the building for being too far fetched.

It's an episode of The Thick of It. On steroids.

[Squinty]

All that money spent on advertising May's withdrawal agreement as well. Scandalous.