Re: Brexit Thread 2
Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2018 2:20 pm
strawberry floating eejit.
Hexx wrote:Jenuall wrote:Where are people seeing this? They never seem to have any "Live" stuff on the BBC news site any more.
That said I'm not sure I want to watch it.
Here's text updates if you can stomach those
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/p ... 48641.html
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/li ... side-no-10
Jenuall wrote:[deficit chat]
Theresa May’s Brexit negotiating strategy has been a disaster. The Tories have spent more time arguing among themselves than negotiating with the EU.
From day one, the Prime Minister has looked incapable of delivering a good Brexit deal for Britain. The political games from both the EU and our Government need to end because no deal is not an
option
twitter.com/Peston/status/1043183991514382338
The European Union and its leaders fully respect the UK’s decision expressed in the referendum on leaving the EU. From the very beginning of the negotiations we have been focused on finding a deal that will minimise the damage resulting from Brexit. Also important to us is to create the best possible relations between the EU and the UK in the future. We studied the Chequers proposals in all seriousness. The results of our analysis have been known to the British side in every detail for many weeks. After intensive consultations with Member States, we decided that for the good of the negotiations, and out of respect for the efforts of PM May, we will treat the Chequers plan as a step in the right direction. In Salzburg, right before our meeting I said in a public statement: “I would like to stress that some of Prime Minister May's proposals from Chequers indicate a positive evolution in the UK's approach as well as a will to minimise the negative effects of Brexit. By this I mean, among other things, the readiness to cooperate closely in the area of security and foreign policy. On other issues, such as the Irish question, or the rules of economic cooperation, the UK's proposals will need to be reworked and further negotiated.” The UK stance presented just before and during the Salzburg meeting was surprisingly tough and in fact uncompromising. The response of the EU27 leaders was to reiterate our trust in chief negotiator Michel Barnier and to reiterate our position on the integrity of the Single Market and the Irish backstop. While understanding the logic of the negotiations, I remain convinced that a compromise, good for all, is still possible. I say these words as a close friend of the UK and a true admirer of PM May.
Jenuall wrote:Alvin Flummux wrote:OrangeRKN wrote:Labour should have worked on reducing the deficit in the economically strong years prior to the recession. The Conservatives should not have gone hard on austerity to reduce the deficit during a recession. Labour lacked foresight and the Conservatives did the complete opposite of what they should have.
That's my amateur level economics take.
I wish we could've had someone like you as Chancellor during the good years. Before the dark times. Before the Tories.
Labour did get the deficit down, from 97 - 2001 Labour pushed the deficit down into negative figures in comparison to the Major years where the Tories had been economically unstable with the deficit being well over 5% of GDP at certain points.
From 2001 - 2006/2007 it then stayed fairly consistent at around 2.5-3% of GDP, hardly an indication of terrible management by Labour.
Also the deficit is not the real problem, debt is. Running a deficit is not necessarily something to be concerned about if you are not actually building up significant amounts of debt. From 1994 until 2007 our national debt stayed fairly consistent at around 40% of GDP, it was only following the crisis in 2008 and the subsequent mishandling of the situation by the Conservatives that we see a massive spike in debt.
twitter.com/alliehbnews/status/1043232799803826177
twitter.com/thesun/status/1043247240096165889
twitter.com/JenWilliamsMEN/status/1043210029065752576
Garth wrote:twitter.com/JenWilliamsMEN/status/1043210029065752576
Christ. In a no-deal Brexit, Javid would want to suspend environmental regulations, workers' rights and auto-enrolment in workplace pensions - that'd go down great
twitter.com/Peston/status/1043256096197099521
Garth wrote:twitter.com/JenWilliamsMEN/status/1043210029065752576
Christ. In a no-deal Brexit, Javid would want to suspend environmental regulations, workers' rights and auto-enrolment in workplace pensions - that'd go down great