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Re: Brexit Thread 2

Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2018 7:04 pm
by Oblomov Boblomov
I actually think this could happen :shock:.

Re: Brexit Thread 2

Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2018 7:07 pm
by Return_of_the_STAR
Oblomov Boblomov wrote:I actually think this could happen :shock:.


The second referendum or hard brexit?

Re: Brexit Thread 2

Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2018 7:31 pm
by Rex Kramer
Return_of_the_STAR wrote:
Oblomov Boblomov wrote:I actually think this could happen :shock:.


The second referendum or hard brexit?

I reckon it's probably a coin toss between the two at the moment.

Re: Brexit Thread 2

Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2018 7:40 pm
by Oblomov Boblomov
Rex Kramer wrote:
Return_of_the_STAR wrote:
Oblomov Boblomov wrote:I actually think this could happen :shock:.


The second referendum or hard brexit?

I reckon it's probably a coin toss between the two at the moment.

Potentially blinded by desperate optimism but it feels like we could be heading towards a second vote.

Re: Brexit Thread 2

Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2018 7:42 pm
by Garth

twitter.com/faisalislam/status/1044297945699504128


Re: Brexit Thread 2

Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2018 7:58 pm
by Tafdolphin
Lagamorph wrote:

twitter.com/theresa_may/status/1044269468921344002



After an unclear referendum where voters were asked to opine on concepts nebulous at best and non-existent at worst, where one side committed blatant electoral fraud which has so far gone largely unpunished... back to square one sort of seems like a net positive at this point?

Re: Brexit Thread 2

Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2018 8:26 pm
by Godzilla
If there was a second brexit vote there is no way to ensure the remain would win. As the other side would lie harder than last time and the press would push their own anyone EU stance.

Re: Brexit Thread 2

Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2018 8:28 pm
by more heat than light
I would suggest that the youth vote would be significantly higher second time around.

Re: Brexit Thread 2

Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2018 8:31 pm
by Errkal
It would also be much much harder to convince the general person as they can see hat is happen it's less hyperthetical.

Re: Brexit Thread 2

Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2018 10:05 pm
by Gemini73
Lets say there was to be a second vote and the result was much the same, as in the country votes to leave. What then?

Re: Brexit Thread 2

Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2018 10:13 pm
by Errkal
Then we leave but the vote would be fine an actual deal so that's that the dick heads strawberry floated it into oblivion we go.

Re: Brexit Thread 2

Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2018 7:21 am
by Squinty
Gemini73 wrote:Lets say there was to be a second vote and the result was much the same, as in the country votes to leave. What then?


I would be okay with it. People can make an informed decision on it now. They couldn't at the time of the referendum.

Re: Brexit Thread 2

Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2018 7:40 am
by Oblomov Boblomov
I agree. A second leave result would of course be galling but it would be much easier to accept than the farce that was the original referendum.

Overall it would still be a complete joke because these things should be decided by democratically elected professionals, not by every man and his dog including racist, evil morons with the intelligence of a turd that has been run over by a train, but there's no other way out at this point!

Re: Brexit Thread 2

Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2018 7:52 am
by Rex Kramer
Squinty wrote:
Gemini73 wrote:Lets say there was to be a second vote and the result was much the same, as in the country votes to leave. What then?


I would be okay with it. People can make an informed decision on it now. They couldn't at the time of the referendum.

You do remember the previous referendum? Unless some kind of national bullshit filter is going to be installed then I'd expect campaigns to be very similar except with an extra slice of 'we wanted our deal but those bullies in the EU wouldn't let us have it'. I do want a 2nd referendum but it's got the potential to be absolutely toxic.

Re: Brexit Thread 2

Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2018 9:30 am
by satriales
If there was a second referendum and everyone voted exactly the same then remain would win this time* just because of the older Brexit voters dying and young people voting remain.

*Assuming the referendum took place in mid-January or later.

Re: Brexit Thread 2

Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2018 11:32 am
by Blue Eyes
Anyone of retirement age shouldn’t get a vote. It’s basically got nothing to do with them anyway.

Re: Brexit Thread 2

Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2018 11:37 am
by Garth
Maybe we should work on convincing older people in mostly Leave areas that they should boycott an undemocratic second vote :slol:

Re: Brexit Thread 2

Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2018 11:38 am
by Garth

twitter.com/BBCPolitics/status/1044532574255636480


Re: Brexit Thread 2

Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2018 11:56 am
by Hexx
That line wasn’t in the pre released (I.s. Issued by party HQ) speech text

Re: Brexit Thread 2

Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2018 12:00 pm
by Rex Kramer
I'd have considerably less reservations in voting for a Kier Starmer led Labour party.