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Re: Brexit Thread 2

Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2018 11:06 am
by Moggy
Qikz wrote:Tory Party 2018 - I hate the proles having the same sort of freedoms we had before because we were rich. They're starting to get the thought that maybe being poor isn't that bad, we need to remove the 5 freedoms immediately!!


Javid has already suggested that a temporary (aka permanent) removal of employment rights might be needed.

The scary thing is just how little press that got and just how little people seem to care about it. Terrifying.

Re: Brexit Thread 2

Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2018 1:35 pm
by Herdanos
DML wrote:
Moggy wrote:
Gemini73 wrote:Lets say there was to be a second vote and the result was much the same, as in the country votes to leave. What then?


Then we leave.

Leavers like to pretend that Remainers just want to keep voting until they get the correct answer. But that isn’t true, we already had a vote on staying in Europe and Remain won massively. Leave then spent decades telling lies about the EU and campaigning to leave/have another referendum. And they were allowed to do it, because in a free democracy people should be able to ask for changes and further votes.

Now that Leave has narrowly won (and it is 1-1 on “will of the people” referendums remember!) they want to end the discussion and try to stop people even suggesting that the British people should have the final say on the matter.

Another referendum would end the matter, if after the last couple of years of talking, information and publicity the British people decide they still want to leave, then the matter is over. I think it would be the wrong decision, but you’d have to accept that that is what people actually want to do. It’d be 2-1 to Leave on the referendum count, there’s nothing else to be done.

I doubt the Leavers would accept a Remain vote though…..


What a sanctimonious prick.


Sure you quoted the right post there DML? :lol:

Re: Brexit Thread 2

Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2018 1:41 pm
by DML
Quantum Name wrote:
DML wrote:
Moggy wrote:
Gemini73 wrote:Lets say there was to be a second vote and the result was much the same, as in the country votes to leave. What then?


Then we leave.

Leavers like to pretend that Remainers just want to keep voting until they get the correct answer. But that isn’t true, we already had a vote on staying in Europe and Remain won massively. Leave then spent decades telling lies about the EU and campaigning to leave/have another referendum. And they were allowed to do it, because in a free democracy people should be able to ask for changes and further votes.

Now that Leave has narrowly won (and it is 1-1 on “will of the people” referendums remember!) they want to end the discussion and try to stop people even suggesting that the British people should have the final say on the matter.

Another referendum would end the matter, if after the last couple of years of talking, information and publicity the British people decide they still want to leave, then the matter is over. I think it would be the wrong decision, but you’d have to accept that that is what people actually want to do. It’d be 2-1 to Leave on the referendum count, there’s nothing else to be done.

I doubt the Leavers would accept a Remain vote though…..


What a sanctimonious prick.


Sure you quoted the right post there DML? :lol:


I did yes, but I forgot to add a winky face! ;)

Re: Brexit Thread 2

Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2018 1:43 pm
by Moggy
DML wrote:
Quantum Name wrote:
DML wrote:
Moggy wrote:
Gemini73 wrote:Lets say there was to be a second vote and the result was much the same, as in the country votes to leave. What then?


Then we leave.

Leavers like to pretend that Remainers just want to keep voting until they get the correct answer. But that isn’t true, we already had a vote on staying in Europe and Remain won massively. Leave then spent decades telling lies about the EU and campaigning to leave/have another referendum. And they were allowed to do it, because in a free democracy people should be able to ask for changes and further votes.

Now that Leave has narrowly won (and it is 1-1 on “will of the people” referendums remember!) they want to end the discussion and try to stop people even suggesting that the British people should have the final say on the matter.

Another referendum would end the matter, if after the last couple of years of talking, information and publicity the British people decide they still want to leave, then the matter is over. I think it would be the wrong decision, but you’d have to accept that that is what people actually want to do. It’d be 2-1 to Leave on the referendum count, there’s nothing else to be done.

I doubt the Leavers would accept a Remain vote though…..


What a sanctimonious prick.


Sure you quoted the right post there DML? :lol:


I did yes, but I forgot to add a winky face! ;)


Sure you did you petty banana split.

Re: Brexit Thread 2

Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2018 1:43 pm
by Moggy
Oops, I forgot the winky face. ;)

Re: Brexit Thread 2

Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2018 3:39 pm
by KK
Image

One of the highest "Don't Knows" ever.

Re: Brexit Thread 2

Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2018 3:48 pm
by Jenuall
It would be interesting to expand the "Don't Know" category in these polls into:

"Don't Know - I haven't thought about this issue enough or simply can't think what my preference would be right now"

and

"Don't Know - I literally don't give a gooseberry fool about this issue"

I think a lot of people may fall into the latter camp.

Re: Brexit Thread 2

Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2018 3:58 pm
by OrangeRKN
I think there should definitely at least be a separate "Please don't ask me I'm not qualified to make these decisions" choice

Re: Brexit Thread 2

Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2018 4:28 pm
by Photek
OrangeRKN wrote:I think there should definitely at least be a separate "Please don't ask me I'm not qualified to make these decisions" choice

That'd get 98% of the vote though.

Re: Brexit Thread 2

Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2018 7:15 pm
by Memento Mori
Hyperion wrote:
DML wrote:Has there ever been a more obvious next leader of their party than Keir Starmer?

David Milliband?

Hillary Clinton.

Re: Brexit Thread 2

Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2018 7:55 pm
by DML
Moggy wrote:Oops, I forgot the winky face. ;)


:wub:

Re: Brexit Thread 2

Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2018 9:36 pm
by Squinty

Re: Brexit Thread 2

Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2018 10:13 pm
by Garth

twitter.com/itvpeston/status/1045039015106248704


Re: Brexit Thread 2

Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2018 10:17 pm
by Return_of_the_STAR
Garth wrote:

twitter.com/itvpeston/status/1045039015106248704



Absolutely no way that she would have said that if she was still in the cabinet.

Re: Brexit Thread 2

Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2018 10:19 pm
by Tineash
Return_of_the_STAR wrote:
Garth wrote:

twitter.com/itvpeston/status/1045039015106248704



Absolutely no way that she would have said that if she was still in the cabinet.


I was just about to post that!

Re: Brexit Thread 2

Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2018 10:44 pm
by Lagamorph
That feeling when you think Amber Rudd is right about something... :dread:
I feel dirty.

Re: Brexit Thread 2

Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2018 11:49 pm
by Garth

twitter.com/tnewtondunn/status/1045080754416431104


Re: Brexit Thread 2

Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2018 10:50 pm
by Garth

twitter.com/Peston/status/1045429208439246848


twitter.com/stuartdhughes/status/1045415846192058368



Another Brexit deal name to add to the pile there BTW: Super Canada!

Re: Brexit Thread 2

Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2018 12:15 am
by DML
So yet more time is wasted whilst the press waste their time and clear the air of this gooseberry fool idea and obvious attention grabbing tactic that they fall for hook, line and sinker every time.

Great.

Re: Brexit Thread 2

Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2018 12:40 am
by Rocsteady
What a load of gooseberry fool. He landed the golden ticket that one, he can’t even write.