Brexit Thread 2

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How would you vote if we had to vote again?

Leave
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Ho-Ho-Ho-tek
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by Ho-Ho-Ho-tek » Fri Jun 01, 2018 11:18 am

I live just below where map is cut off. :capnscotty:

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by BID0 » Fri Jun 01, 2018 2:53 pm

Leftwingers launch campaign to shift Labour position on Brexit
A grassroots group of Jeremy Corbyn supporters and trade unions is to launch a major UK speaking tour, billed as the leftwing campaign to remain in the EU.

The Left Against Brexit tour will attempt to persuade Corbyn and his allies of the leftwing case for a pro-EU position and will argue that the party can reap electoral benefits from a shift.

Speakers on the summer tour of British cities will include Manuel Cortes, the general secretary of the transport union TSSA, Michael Chessum, who was on Momentum’s first steering committee, the Labour MEP Julie Ward, the former shadow minister Catherine West, and the Green party co-leader Caroline Lucas.

Organisers will argue that a Corbyn-led programme of economic reform would be hampered by a damaging departure from the EU, threatening jobs and investment.

The speakers will not call for a rerun of the referendum on EU membership, but for Corbyn to formally reject leaving the EU and make the case that a vote for Labour would be a vote to remain – although the UK is set to formally exit the bloc before the next scheduled election in 2022.

“There is nothing about Brexit that will make life better for the working class,” Cortes said. “It was a rightwing brainchild won – and only narrowly – on a deceitful programme of dog-whistle racism and the big lie that the NHS would get £350m a week.

“The left should unite now and come together to stop this Tory act of war against our class. Our job is always to defend our people against the boss class. Supporting Tory/Ukip Brexit is unacceptable class collaboration. Full stop.”

Cortes said the time was right for Labour to reconsider its message on Brexit. He called for the party to “come clean with the electorate [to] say the Brexit squeeze ain’t worth the juice”.

“The Corbyn promise of new economic settlement at home is now our priority,” Cortes said. “Frankly, there is no one better placed than Jeremy to call for peace and reconciliation with Europe. Pulling out of Brexit, not Europe, is now the bold offer we need to make if we are to win an election and begin to properly rebuild prosperity at home.”

Ward, the Labour MEP for north-west England, said the fight to remain in the EU would “embody the spirit of previous generations who stood shoulder to shoulder against the fascists in Germany, France, Spain and elsewhere”.

She said Britain would be “toothless” outside the EU against a growing tide of racism and xenophobia. “A Corbyn-led Labour government could lead the charge to reform the EU from within, giving hope to millions of young people across Europe,” Ward said.

“This Left Against Brexit tour opens the way for the majority view in the Labour party to shift the party back to where it belongs – at the heart of the EU, arguing for a more fair and just world for the many.”

Lucas, who will step down as Green party co-leader in the autumn, said an “independent, left voice against Brexit” was needed in the debate. “We’re going to make the radical case for staying and leading in the EU.”

Momentum, the grassroots pro-Corbyn group, is not part of the tour and sources said the group backed the Labour leadership’s current position to pursue an EU exit that protects jobs.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... -on-brexit

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PostRe: Brexit Thread 2
by Chestnut Snowleaves » Fri Jun 01, 2018 3:33 pm

I would probably vote for a Labour against Brexit. I agree with a lot of their policies in principal but I can't support any party than can't turn around and say 'you know what, people voted for this but it's actually a gooseberry fool idea'.

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PostRe: Brexit Thread 2
by Partridge Iciclebubbles » Fri Jun 01, 2018 4:03 pm

more heat than light wrote:I would probably vote for a Labour against Brexit. I agree with a lot of their policies in principal but I can't support any party than can't turn around and say 'you know what, people voted for this but it's actually a gooseberry fool idea'.


I am not a fan of Corbyn, but I would definitely vote Labour if they came out against Brexit.

I voted Labour at the last two elections and my local (Labour!) MP is awesome, but I will not be doing so again unless the party really changes their policy on Brexit.

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PostRe: Brexit Thread 2
by Squinty » Fri Jun 01, 2018 4:27 pm

Photek wrote:I live just below where map is cut off. :capnscotty:


You and your superior quality of life and expectancy :x

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by Partridge Iciclebubbles » Fri Jun 01, 2018 4:38 pm

Squinty wrote:
Photek wrote:I live just below where map is cut off. :capnscotty:


You and your superior quality of life and expectancy :x


He’ll be losing those when the mutants from the exclusion zone make a break to the South.

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by Hyperion » Fri Jun 01, 2018 5:17 pm

Moggy wrote:
Squinty wrote:
Photek wrote:I live just below where map is cut off. :capnscotty:


You and your superior quality of life and expectancy :x


He’ll be losing those when the mutants from the exclusion zone make a break to the South.

I may be way off but isn't below where the map cuts off just marshland?

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by Sleighamorph » Fri Jun 01, 2018 6:50 pm


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by Garth of Christmas Future » Fri Jun 01, 2018 7:00 pm

Sounds like someone was discussing it, this doesn't read like a complete denial:
The Department for Exiting the European Union (DExEU) declined to comment directly on the report, but also did not reject it, saying work was underway to “refine” possible customs solutions.

However, sources rejected the idea Davis had personally championed the plan, while a No 10 spokesman said Theresa May could not accept such an approach: “The prime minister has been absolutely clear that we cannot and will not accept a customs border down the Irish sea, and that we will preserve the constitutional integrity of the UK’s common market.”

Work was still ongoing on a customs plan that would do just this, as well as allowing the UK to make trade deals, keeping trade as frictionless as possible and avoiding a hard Irish border, the spokesman added.

Asked about the plan earlier, a DExEU spokesman said: “We have set out two viable future customs arrangements with the EU and work is ongoing to refine these.”

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/201 ... -uk-status

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PostRe: Brexit Thread 2
by Partridge Iciclebubbles » Sat Jun 02, 2018 11:36 am



Lord Jones thinks unelected people are a sign of tyranny. :lol:

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by Sleighamorph » Sat Jun 02, 2018 1:47 pm


Lagamorph's Underwater Photography Thread
Zellery wrote:Good post Lagamorph.
Turboman wrote:Lagomorph..... Is ..... Right
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Garth of Christmas Future
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PostRe: Brexit Thread 2
by Garth of Christmas Future » Sat Jun 02, 2018 10:24 pm

Sunday Times:
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by Partridge Iciclebubbles » Sat Jun 02, 2018 10:42 pm

Garth wrote:Sunday Times:
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PostRe: Brexit Thread 2
by lex-man » Sat Jun 02, 2018 10:44 pm

He's right though, they had petrol in Max.

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PostRe: Brexit Thread 2
by Squinty » Sat Jun 02, 2018 10:53 pm

lex-man wrote:He's right though, they had petrol in Max.


I can't wait to worship Immortan May :wub: :wub:

Obligatory repost.


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PostRe: Brexit Thread 2
by Sleighamorph » Sun Jun 03, 2018 12:10 am


Lagamorph's Underwater Photography Thread
Zellery wrote:Good post Lagamorph.
Turboman wrote:Lagomorph..... Is ..... Right
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PostRe: Brexit Thread 2
by Partridge Iciclebubbles » Sun Jun 03, 2018 8:09 am

Farage is now claiming that he never said leaving would be beneficial. :lol:

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PostRe: Brexit Thread 2
by Christmas CrackErrkal » Sun Jun 03, 2018 8:11 am

Stupid banana split

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Squinty
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PostRe: Brexit Thread 2
by Squinty » Sun Jun 03, 2018 8:11 am

Not surprising. The damage is done though, and he won't be held to account.

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by Partridge Iciclebubbles » Sun Jun 03, 2018 8:13 am

Squinty wrote:Not surprising. The damage is done though, and he won't be held to account.


I’m surprised he’s going down that route though. I thought he’d double down and say that’d all have been great if the government had done it the way Farage wanted.


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