Bullets for his Valentine - Pistorius bailed

PostRe: Bullets for his Valentine by **Octoroc** » Thu Feb 14, 2013 1:33 pm

HE HOPED THAT HIS CLAIMS OF MISTAKEN IDENTITY WOULD >>>STUMP<<< THE DETECTIVES

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Albear wrote:
FatDaz wrote: It's easier to drop from murder to man slaughter but you can't upgrade to murder after charging lesser offence.

That's really surprising. So if the police thought someone had committed manslaughter and charged them, but then later found evidence that they committed murder the police couldn't change the charge?

Do you know what the reason for this rule is?

Not sure of the exact details, but if there was even a shroud of doubt they woud charge murder. Then over priced lawyer argues for it to be dropped to manslaughter.

In truth I dont know the reason and I may be wrong, but I've always been told its easier to drop down than go up. Burden of proof for murder / manslaughter.

Same for other offences, ie you wouldn't be charged possession of drugs then get to court and be convicted of intent to supply etc.

The defence can argue abuse of process (trying to have 2 bites of the pie, or keep changing charge till you get a conviction)

Edit: there are ways to lay extra charges at court but it's technical and. Don't know the ins and outs of it.

PostRe: Bullets for his Valentine by **Albert** » Thu Feb 14, 2013 1:35 pm

Puns are a bannable offense on Cracked forums, I think we should implement a similar rule.

PostRe: Bullets for his Valentine by **Jeffrey** » Thu Feb 14, 2013 1:35 pm

Legal representation is gonna cost him an arm and an arm.

PostRe: Bullets for his Valentine by **aayl1** » Thu Feb 14, 2013 1:37 pm

Albear, I would make repeating a pun a bannable offence.

PostRe: Bullets for his Valentine by **Poser** » Thu Feb 14, 2013 1:40 pm

Albear wrote:Puns are a bannable offense on Cracked forums, I think we should implement a similar rule.

Hmm. Firstly, just to stress, my post above in the block caps was making a roughly similar point.

Secondly, the guy who wrote that is a cock - the worst writer on Cracked and way too far up his own arse.

Thirdly, sometimes the pun threads are fun, when a true pun-off develops. However, I think we can all usually tell when the conversation has moved on, as with the horse meat thing (by christ, there are no puns left on that gooseberry fool), and most people leave it. What annoys me is people diving in to post their hilarious joke without reading the first few pages (edit - or what aayl1 said far more succinctly!)

tl;dr - puns are ok but it usually reaches a point where it goes too far. I think this thread has reached this point.

PostRe: Bullets for his Valentine by **Octoroc** » Thu Feb 14, 2013 1:41 pm

Can we keep double entendres though? Although they are harder to pull off, they are ultimately more satisfying.

PostRe: Bullets for his Valentine by **FatDaz** » Thu Feb 14, 2013 1:47 pm

StayDead wrote:
Skarjo wrote:
StayDead wrote:What sickens me is if it's true that there's been allegations of domestic abuse before, it's a retelling of a story that's been told so many times before.

Woman or man gets in relationship where they're abused, report it and nothing happens which eventually leads to their death by murder/manslaugter. It's strawberry floating sickening this happens so often and even worse when it happens to abused children.

Actually, in fairness (and I say this not without a degree of experience of the situation), the problem isn't people reporting it and the action not being taken; the problem is getting victims to report it in the first place and after that getting them to stick to the charges for long enough to get a prosecution.

That's fair enough I guess. I didn't really think of that large possibility when I was posting that in a rush.

Take it from someone who deals with domestics on a daily basis (yes every shift I work has at least 1) it's very difficult to identify the genuine issues from the disgruntled partners or minor arguments.

Occasionally there are real ones where there are issues, but more often than not they won't say what happened or if they do, they Wont provide a statement. Or if they do, they retract a week later. It's usually 1 word against another so without support they never get to court.

Then there are the bullshit allegations. Pissed off man or woman wants to get 1 up on the other, claims assault etc just to get them out of house for a day. Or to build up "evidence" for custody or divorce proceedings.

They say 8/10 murders are domestic related, so they are treated very seriously but more often than not its alcohol related arguments stemming from alterier motives or annoyance / jealousy from ex partners.

So when you say nothing happens, it's not quite that simple. If I had a pound for every domestic victim that wouldnt cooperate or retracted a day later once they calmed own, I'd be a very rich man.

PostRe: Bullets for his Valentine by **Dblock** » Thu Feb 14, 2013 2:05 pm

I'll guess it is time for me to walk away from this thread.

PostRe: Bullets for his Valentine by **Rax** » Thu Feb 14, 2013 2:06 pm

Octoroc wrote:Can we keep double entendres though? Although they are harder to pull off, they are ultimately more satisfying.

PostRe: Bullets for his Valentine by **Lotus** » Thu Feb 14, 2013 2:19 pm

Apparently he's been informally charged, will go to court to be formally charged, and then he can apply for bail. Will spend tonight in jail.

Lotus wrote:Apparently he's been informally charged, will go to court to be formally charged, and then he can apply for bail. Will spend tonight in jail.

We've moved on from puns to rhymes it seems

PostRe: Bullets for his Valentine by **JiggerJay** » Thu Feb 14, 2013 2:21 pm

Jeffrey wrote:Roses are red, violets are glorious, dont try and surprise Oscar Pistorius!

I had that on my twitter hours ago!

There were indications that Pistorius had fears about his safety. In an interview with the Daily Mail before the London 2012 Games it was revealed he slept with a pistol next to his bed and kept a machine gun by a window.

No confirmation of that in the [shortened] interview linked mind you.

I've just realised he resembles Jesse Pinkman, if he took up blade running rather than meth cooking. And..other things.

PostRe: Bullets for his Valentine by **That** » Thu Feb 14, 2013 2:33 pm

Jeffrey wrote:Legal representation is gonna cost him an arm and an arm.

PostRe: Bullets for his Valentine by **Qikz** » Thu Feb 14, 2013 2:45 pm

Lucien wrote:That is really unfortunate. He is 26 but looks about 32.

Unfortunate for who? Him or the woman he shot dead?

Lucien wrote:
StayDead wrote:
Lucien wrote:That is really unfortunate. He is 26 but looks about 32.

Unfortunate for who? Him or the woman he shot dead?

Him. She's dead, so he'll have to deal with his advanced aging alone.

The light that burns twice as bright burns for half as long - and he has burned so very, very brightly, Look at him : the Prodigal Son; quite a prize!

PostRe: Bullets for his Valentine by **Moggy** » Thu Feb 14, 2013 3:28 pm

Albear wrote:Puns are a bannable offense on Cracked forums, I think we should implement a similar rule.

Cracked wrote:I'm not a Reddit guy, but I have friends who are. One of their biggest complaints is that sometimes they'll find a headline that they'd like to get some ore information on, but to get to that, they first have to wade through 200 goddamn puns.

We know all about it on our own forums. It got so bad at one point, we had to make it a bannable offense, because a thread would start off with a legitimate post about a man being eaten by his pet bear, and then end up with five pages of nothing but "I bet his pain was unBEARable!" And ending with the inevitable post that appears in all pun exchanges in which someone pretends that they don't know what puns are and flatly states "A bear ate that guy!" Hell, I'm not innocent -- I've done it myself.

Why People Do It

Quite honestly, it's one of the easiest forms of comedy in existence. Pretty much anyone can do it with virtually no thought or effort, and once someone starts it out, you can just keep it going until the universe collapses and exacts its terrible revenge. Once that exchange gets kick-started, you're a part of something. You're not just repeating jokes you heard someone else say -- you're actually creating comedy! And that's good, right? Creating feels pretty damn awesome.

Why We Hate It

The problem is that it just absolutely strawberry floating wrecks any chance of a conversation in a matter of seconds. Because puns are considered to be one of the lowest forms of wit in existence, most normal humans think of them as dumb jokes made by dumb people. And, yes, I understand that they've been around for as long as spoken language itself, but I'm going to blame Mike Myers for it. Because he happens to be one of the only humans to ever pull off a funny string of puns, mostly because he was clearly making fun of them. But the downside is that it gave birth to an entire generation of meme people repeating "He'll never be the head of a major corporation."

I support banning puns. Reading through them usually feels like I am being punished.

PostRe: Bullets for his Valentine by **Knoyleo** » Thu Feb 14, 2013 4:21 pm

Nike have, unsurprisingly, pulled this advert now:

PostRe: Bullets for his Valentine by **Negatron** » Thu Feb 14, 2013 4:22 pm

I for one am looking forward to the uplifting South African sports-drama about Oscar Pistorius. I hear it will be called "Convictus".

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