Bullets for his Valentine - Pistorius bailed

PostRe: Bullets for his Valentine by **FatDaz** » Thu Feb 14, 2013 12:33 pm

Lotus wrote:Could just be the high-profile nature of the case that it's getting such priority and attention. Who knows, he's due in court soon though, apparently 12pm GMT but that seems delayed.

If SA law is anything like British law, to have charged him already means they have strong evidence he committed murder. He will be put before courts to enter plea. Remanded Then trial will be 9-12 months later to allow them to follow every lead and investigate every possible line of enquiry.

PostRe: Bullets for his Valentine by **Poser** » Thu Feb 14, 2013 12:35 pm

Oh yeah? And what would you know about it, exactly?

Useful input. I reckon he's gonna try to OJ his way out of this.

PostRe: Bullets for his Valentine by **FatDaz** » Thu Feb 14, 2013 12:38 pm

It's likely he has admitted shooting her if they have charged so soon. But probably claimed defence or accident etc. they would always charge murder and let courts decide if manslaughter or not. It's easier to drop from murder to man slaughter but you can't upgrade to murder after charging lesser offence.

Of course who knows over there..

PostRe: Bullets for his Valentine by **Octoroc** » Thu Feb 14, 2013 12:38 pm

PostRe: Bullets for his Valentine by **Qikz** » Thu Feb 14, 2013 12:41 pm

FatDaz wrote:It's likely he has admitted shooting her if they have charged so soon. But probably claimed defence or accident etc. they would always charge murder and let courts decide if manslaughter or not. It's easier to drop from murder to man slaughter but you can't upgrade to murder after charging lesser offence.

Of course who knows over there..

He's white and probably rich. He'll probably won't even be sent to jail.

He'd be in a 'private' jail if anything. No way would he be put in a normal jail.

PostRe: Bullets for his Valentine by **Dblock** » Thu Feb 14, 2013 12:46 pm

If he goes to Jail surely he is not allowed to take those Blades that he runs on is it?

He'll be choppin' dudes up.

He gives love a bad name.

PostRe: Bullets for his Valentine by **Octoroc** » Thu Feb 14, 2013 12:57 pm

The BBC wrote:Officers added that there had been previous incidents at the address and described them as "allegations of a domestic nature"

Police have no idea where the "burglar story" came from.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-21455843

PostRe: Bullets for his Valentine by **Qikz** » Thu Feb 14, 2013 12:59 pm

What sickens me is if it's true that there's been allegations of domestic abuse before, it's a retelling of a story that's been told so many times before.

Woman or man gets in relationship where they're abused, report it and nothing happens which eventually leads to their death by murder/manslaugter. It's strawberry floating sickening this happens so often and even worse when it happens to abused children.

PostRe: Bullets for his Valentine by **aayl1** » Thu Feb 14, 2013 1:00 pm

I asked Rihanna why she was still seeing Chris Brown.

"Beats me".

PostRe: Bullets for his Valentine by **Skarjo** » Thu Feb 14, 2013 1:06 pm

StayDead wrote:What sickens me is if it's true that there's been allegations of domestic abuse before, it's a retelling of a story that's been told so many times before.

Woman or man gets in relationship where they're abused, report it and nothing happens which eventually leads to their death by murder/manslaugter. It's strawberry floating sickening this happens so often and even worse when it happens to abused children.

Actually, in fairness (and I say this not without a degree of experience of the situation), the problem isn't people reporting it and the action not being taken; the problem is getting victims to report it in the first place and after that getting them to stick to the charges for long enough to get a prosecution.

PostRe: Bullets for his Valentine by **SEP** » Thu Feb 14, 2013 1:06 pm

Jeffrey wrote:Roses are red, violets are glorious, dont try and surprise Oscar Pistorius!

Thread won! :lol:

PostRe: Bullets for his Valentine by **Albert** » Thu Feb 14, 2013 1:09 pm

FatDaz wrote: It's easier to drop from murder to man slaughter but you can't upgrade to murder after charging lesser offence.

That's really surprising. So if the police thought someone had committed manslaughter and charged them, but then later found evidence that they committed murder the police couldn't change the charge?

Do you know what the reason for this rule is?

PostRe: Bullets for his Valentine by **Qikz** » Thu Feb 14, 2013 1:11 pm

Skarjo wrote:
StayDead wrote:What sickens me is if it's true that there's been allegations of domestic abuse before, it's a retelling of a story that's been told so many times before.

Woman or man gets in relationship where they're abused, report it and nothing happens which eventually leads to their death by murder/manslaugter. It's strawberry floating sickening this happens so often and even worse when it happens to abused children.

Actually, in fairness (and I say this not without a degree of experience of the situation), the problem isn't people reporting it and the action not being taken; the problem is getting victims to report it in the first place and after that getting them to stick to the charges for long enough to get a prosecution.

That's fair enough I guess. I didn't really think of that large possibility when I was posting that in a rush.

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PostRe: Bullets for his Valentine by **Cuttooth** » Thu Feb 14, 2013 1:20 pm

Skarjo wrote:
StayDead wrote:What sickens me is if it's true that there's been allegations of domestic abuse before, it's a retelling of a story that's been told so many times before.

Woman or man gets in relationship where they're abused, report it and nothing happens which eventually leads to their death by murder/manslaugter. It's strawberry floating sickening this happens so often and even worse when it happens to abused children.

Actually, in fairness (and I say this not without a degree of experience of the situation), the problem isn't people reporting it and the action not being taken; the problem is getting victims to report it in the first place and after that getting them to stick to the charges for long enough to get a prosecution.

I believe the law was changed recently where domestic violence charges can't be directly dropped by the victim not giving evidence.

PostRe: Bullets for his Valentine by **Poser** » Thu Feb 14, 2013 1:22 pm

I BET HE HASN'T GOT A LEG TO STAND ON BECAUSE HE DOESN'T HAVE ANY LEGS.

PostRe: Bullets for his Valentine by **Buffalo** » Thu Feb 14, 2013 1:25 pm

He'll not be getting his leg over for a while now, I bet.

HE'LL BE SPENDING HIS TIME ON HIS KNEES IN PRISON.

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