Channel 4 Dispatches Special: Russell Brand

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by Squinty » Sun Sep 24, 2023 9:21 am

It's an interesting thing to think about. Like if he is eventually charged, because he has leaned into this far right shite, he has a good amount of money to fight it, bettering his chances of being acquitted.

There is also the possibility of being able to further milk really gullible people regardless of what the outcome is.

Either this is calculated or it isn't. I would guess the former.

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by Gideon » Sun Sep 24, 2023 9:50 am

Saw an interesting thing about how The Grift works a few days ago. You know how you get a scam email and the wording, spelling and punctuation is awful, it directly mentions places known for being a hub for scams and is just generally a list of different types of red flags? Sometimes you think ‘how hard would it be for them to hire someone with English as a first language to try and scam English speakers?’ or you laugh at just how obvious a scam it is. Well that’s actually by design. They’re deliberately made to be obvious scams because it immediately filters out anyone in any way skeptical, it essentially gets people who are somewhat illiterate, vulnerable to being lied to and taken advantage of to self-identify. Essentially anyone who replies to that email is an excellent target to be scammed, and you’ve filtered out anyone who might waste your time.

It’s the same thing with conspiracy chuds and far right grifters - the more fringe the content, the more absurd the claims, the more you repel anyone, well, sane. What you’re left with is a fraction of your possible audience, but you’ve filtered out anyone who’d disagree with you or question you and you’re left with just the people who’ll happily empty their pockets for you and validate others in doing the same.

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by Victor Mildew » Sun Sep 24, 2023 10:09 am

Gideon wrote:Saw an interesting thing about how The Grift works a few days ago. You know how you get a scam email and the wording, spelling and punctuation is awful, it directly mentions places known for being a hub for scams and is just generally a list of different types of red flags? Sometimes you think ‘how hard would it be for them to hire someone with English as a first language to try and scam English speakers?’ or you laugh at just how obvious a scam it is. Well that’s actually by design. They’re deliberately made to be obvious scams because it immediately filters out anyone in any way skeptical, it essentially gets people who are somewhat illiterate, vulnerable to being lied to and taken advantage of to self-identify. Essentially anyone who replies to that email is an excellent target to be scammed, and you’ve filtered out anyone who might waste your time.

It’s the same thing with conspiracy chuds and far right grifters - the more fringe the content, the more absurd the claims, the more you repel anyone, well, sane. What you’re left with is a fraction of your possible audience, but you’ve filtered out anyone who’d disagree with you or question you and you’re left with just the people who’ll happily empty their pockets for you and validate others in doing the same.


That's just what they want you to think though.

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PostRe: Channel 4 Dispatches Special: Russell Brand
by Gideon » Sun Sep 24, 2023 10:26 am

Oh gooseberry fool that’s right. Whose merch do I buy to stop Them?!

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PostRe: Channel 4 Dispatches Special: Russell Brand
by Roonmastor » Mon Sep 25, 2023 4:45 pm

Tomous wrote:
Zilnad wrote:Pretty sure his True News stuff had a small following of GRcadians back when he started out. Obviously back then, it wasn't quite the completely bat gooseberry fool, conspiracy stuff that he now spouts but I can see how impressionable viewers would have been suckered in to his cult over the years. It's sickening that people like him exist to prey on the vulnerable.


I remember him arguing with Sean Hannity over Palestine and him coming across very reasonably...not that you have to do a lot to come across as the reasonable one while arguing with Sean Hannity. I think he changed direction and swung to the right and conspiracy theories during covid but maybe it happened earlier and I didn't notice?


Yeah, I was onboard with all the Trews stuff, but then he overreached his influence when he tried to dictate which way the audience voted in an election, broke his trust with the viewership and then went on an extended haitus, and unsubbed.

Until I saw the video list posted on the last page, I'd not fully grasped his swing in stance.

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PostRe: Channel 4 Dispatches Special: Russell Brand
by Lex-Man » Mon Sep 25, 2023 6:58 pm

Apparently, in his book he admitted throwing his dog down the stairs because he wanted to teach it not to go upstairs.

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PostRe: Channel 4 Dispatches Special: Russell Brand
by poshrule_uk » Mon Sep 25, 2023 10:00 pm

You can usually judge a person by how they treat animals.

In unrelated news apparently someone is murdering cats in a nearby town. How long until they progress to people.

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PostRe: Channel 4 Dispatches Special: Russell Brand
by Victor Mildew » Mon Sep 25, 2023 10:15 pm

Innocent until proven guilty!!!!!

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PostRe: Channel 4 Dispatches Special: Russell Brand
by KK » Tue Sep 26, 2023 6:02 pm

twitter.com/lozzafox/status/1706299443073486872


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PostRe: Channel 4 Dispatches Special: Russell Brand
by Squinty » Tue Sep 26, 2023 7:45 pm

Panorama special coming up. BBC haven't confirmed if it's related to stuff like this.

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PostRe: Channel 4 Dispatches Special: Russell Brand
by SEP » Tue Sep 26, 2023 7:48 pm

Squinty wrote:Panorama special coming up. BBC haven't confirmed if it's related to stuff like this.


They're getting revenge on Channel 4, and going for Jimmy Carr.

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by Memento Mori » Tue Sep 26, 2023 7:50 pm

Squinty wrote:Panorama special coming up. BBC haven't confirmed if it's related to stuff like this.

A week is quite a bit longer notice than the 24 hours or so Channel 4 gave for their documentary.

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PostRe: Channel 4 Dispatches Special: Russell Brand
by Godzilla » Tue Sep 26, 2023 9:25 pm

I often find that serial sex offenders threaten legal action to keep the press at bay. Saville did this as have many others.

In a completely unrelated story

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-66924967

David Walliams sues company behind Britain's Got Talent

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PostRe: Channel 4 Dispatches Special: Russell Brand
by Tomous » Tue Sep 26, 2023 10:55 pm

KK wrote:

twitter.com/lozzafox/status/1706299443073486872



Have to agree with Lawrence Fox here-i bet there's even more victims out there that haven't come found yet.

That's what he meant right?

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PostRe: Channel 4 Dispatches Special: Russell Brand
by rinks » Tue Sep 26, 2023 11:52 pm

I saw Walliams was trending earlier but I didn’t know why. Somebody had posted a video of him in a stand-up show, playing something like a 70s DJ. He got teenage boys out of the audience and talked to them inappropriately. A bit much, but it was just a character, and nothing compared to what Brand is accused of. Then he attempted to forcibly kiss them. Yeah, that’s going too far. But then… he escalated it by attempting to rip their trousers off, on stage and against their will, with varying degrees of success. I’d have thought the video was all the evidence needed for prosecution.

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PostRe: Channel 4 Dispatches Special: Russell Brand
by rinks » Wed Sep 27, 2023 12:00 am

twitter.com/CharlotteEmmaUK/status/1706721586651320720



Of course, the boys have to laugh it off to save face. Just imagine if it was a 16-year-old girl.

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PostRe: Channel 4 Dispatches Special: Russell Brand
by Zilnad » Wed Sep 27, 2023 7:17 am

"It was old style paedoing, before it got such a bad name"

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PostRe: Channel 4 Dispatches Special: Russell Brand
by Moggy » Wed Sep 27, 2023 7:21 am

KK wrote:

twitter.com/lozzafox/status/1706299443073486872



twitter.com/avasantina/status/1706777983241822705



Vile.

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PostRe: Channel 4 Dispatches Special: Russell Brand
by Squinty » Wed Sep 27, 2023 7:26 am

rinks wrote:

twitter.com/CharlotteEmmaUK/status/1706721586651320720



Of course, the boys have to laugh it off to save face. Just imagine if it was a 16-year-old girl.


:dread: That was just...gross.

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PostRe: Channel 4 Dispatches Special: Russell Brand
by Lex-Man » Wed Sep 27, 2023 8:37 am

He's straight though. I know people who work in publishing and apparently they try and keep young assistants away from him.

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