Children and Religion

PostRe: Children and Religion by **Preezy** » Sat Nov 21, 2009 12:37 pm

Catholic schoolgirls are notoriously hot :shifty:

EDIT: damn, top of the page, now I look like a perv :lol:

I still speak the truth though 8-)

PostRe: Children and Religion by **Dolph Wiggler** » Sat Nov 21, 2009 12:47 pm

Preezy wrote:Much like with ghosts and fairies (which do totally exist btw ), the onus is on the believer to prove the existence of these things, not for the sceptic to disprove it.

Not necessarily, it only has to make sense with regards to previous theories that have been proven. It's then up to experimental physicists etc to prove or disprove it. It's innocent until proven guilty. But even then, take Einstein's special relativity theory, there have been many experiments proving this to be true but a lot of people think it might be disproved in the near future, scrapping the whole thing.

PostRe: Children and Religion by **That** » Sat Nov 21, 2009 12:58 pm

Wiggles wrote:But even then, take Einstein's special relativity theory, there have been many experiments proving this to be true but a lot of people think it might be disproved in the near future, scrapping the whole thing.

Sort of, but not quite. Einstein's theories hold for all but a very specific subset of scenarios, just like Newton's equations before him.

By your logic Newtonian Physics is disproved, discarded and laughed at, but that's not really the case.

PostRe: Children and Religion by **Dolph Wiggler** » Sat Nov 21, 2009 1:12 pm

That's what i meant.

I said that Einstein's relativity theories may have to be scrapped in the future, maybe not entirely (and maybe entirely), but for a unified theory of relativity and quantum mechanics there may have to be a rethink. Relativity doesn't hold in quantum systems, yet at the start of the Universe, it was so tiny that it would have had to hold for quantum systems, so there is definitely a problem in the current theories. Hopefully this is something the LHC can shed a little light on.

PostRe: Children and Religion by **That** » Sat Nov 21, 2009 2:04 pm

Yes, I know all that; my point is that a 'scrappage' is unlikely since the relativity theories are proven to hold in all but a small subset of situations, just like a 'scrappage' of Newton's theories never happened even when situations where they didn't hold were found.

PostRe: Children and Religion by **SEP** » Sat Nov 21, 2009 2:11 pm

Karlprof wrote:Yes, I know all that; my point is that a 'scrappage' is unlikely since the relativity theories are proven to hold in all but a small subset of situations, just like a 'scrappage' of Newton's theories never happened even when situations where they didn't hold were found.

They won't get scrapped, they'll get adjusted.

PostRe: Children and Religion by **That** » Sat Nov 21, 2009 2:27 pm

Indeed, bits will be built up around them and they may be altered slightly but I can't see them being done away with because of the sheer magnitude of situations in which they do work perfectly well.

PostRe: Children and Religion by **Shadow** » Sat Nov 21, 2009 4:21 pm

Dandy Kong wrote:
Pan wrote:Catholic schools trump all other schools on plenty of other matters (discipline, results, general ethos), if one was tempted to argue from a purely pragmatic point of view.

Is there any statistical evidence to back that statement up?

CBA to find a link, but in the UK Catholic schools are notoriously better, take (literally) any area and the local Catholic school will be among the top two in the area, this isn't speculation it's just common knowledge over here.

PostRe: Children and Religion by **SEP** » Sat Nov 21, 2009 4:24 pm

Shadow wrote:
Dandy Kong wrote:
Pan wrote:Catholic schools trump all other schools on plenty of other matters (discipline, results, general ethos), if one was tempted to argue from a purely pragmatic point of view.

Is there any statistical evidence to back that statement up?

CBA to find a link, but in the UK Catholic schools are notoriously better, take (literally) any area and the local Catholic school will be among the top two in the area, this isn't speculation it's just common knowledge over here.

Surely that's more of a funding thing, though.

PostRe: Children and Religion by **Irene Demova** » Sat Nov 21, 2009 4:27 pm

Shadow wrote:
Dandy Kong wrote:
Pan wrote:Catholic schools trump all other schools on plenty of other matters (discipline, results, general ethos), if one was tempted to argue from a purely pragmatic point of view.

Is there any statistical evidence to back that statement up?

CBA to find a link, but in the UK Catholic schools are notoriously better, take (literally) any area and the local Catholic school will be among the top two in the area, this isn't speculation it's just common knowledge over here.

Bullshit

My local Catholic school is never above mid position in the results table and they try to avoid publishing science results.

Dandy Kong wrote:
Pan wrote:Catholic schools trump all other schools on plenty of other matters (discipline, results, general ethos), if one was tempted to argue from a purely pragmatic point of view.

Same school had a drug ring broke up recently

All of it's pupils are middle class and better off than me money wise

PostRe: Children and Religion by **Rax** » Sat Nov 21, 2009 4:53 pm

Forcing children into a religion at a young age is wrong. Religion is not required to explain the difference between right and wrong to anyone. If an adult chooses to be in an organised religion then away they go, just dont force anyone to join you, especially not impressionable children.

Theres my 2 cents.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/education/8381090.stm

I could not agree more. Rather than "forcing" pupils into a religion by indoctrination, faith schools encourage and develop a better understanding of different relgions and people. It's always struck me as remarkably obvious, but I've never been able to put it into words properly and/or had anything to back it up. I do now.

NickSCFC · PostRe: Children and Religion by **NickSCFC** » Fri Nov 27, 2009 11:07 am

All you need to do is look at who funds these schools. Do you really think the Saudi royals want to pay for European kids to learn about Buddhism?

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