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PostRe: The Comics Thread
by DrDoom » Sun Aug 17, 2008 11:41 pm

It's basically the Batman story Loeb and Sale worked on before progressing to Long Halloween and Dark Victory. Think of it as a warmup. It's not as polished or good.

IMO, for completists only.

There are far better Batman stories around.

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PostRe: The Comics Thread
by Memento Mori » Sun Aug 17, 2008 11:43 pm

DrDoom wrote:It's basically the Batman story Loeb and Sale worked on before progressing to Long Halloween and Dark Victory. Think of it as a warmup. It's not as polished or good.

IMO, for completists only.

There are far better Batman stories around.

Oh. What Batman stories would you recommend me then?

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PostRe: The Comics Thread
by DrDoom » Sun Aug 17, 2008 11:47 pm

Memento Mori wrote:
DrDoom wrote:It's basically the Batman story Loeb and Sale worked on before progressing to Long Halloween and Dark Victory. Think of it as a warmup. It's not as polished or good.

IMO, for completists only.

There are far better Batman stories around.

Oh. What Batman stories would you recommend me then?


You've probably read them all.

Year One, The Dark Knight Returns, Long Halloween, Dark Victory, Batman and the Monster Men, Batman and the Mad Monk,the Gotham Central stuff (not strictly Batman but still awesome)

I recently re-read the Unresolved Targets arc of Gotham Central. The part with The Joker in police custody is eerily familiar ;)

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PostRe: The Comics Thread
by Memento Mori » Sun Aug 17, 2008 11:49 pm

DrDoom wrote:
Memento Mori wrote:
DrDoom wrote:It's basically the Batman story Loeb and Sale worked on before progressing to Long Halloween and Dark Victory. Think of it as a warmup. It's not as polished or good.

IMO, for completists only.

There are far better Batman stories around.

Oh. What Batman stories would you recommend me then?


You've probably read them all.

Year One, The Dark Knight Returns, Long Halloween, Dark Victory, Batman and the Monster Men, Batman and the Mad Monk,the Gotham Central stuff (not strictly Batman but still awesome)

I recently re-read the Unresolved Targets arc of Gotham Central. The part with The Joker in police custody is eerily familiar ;)


The only comics I have ever read are long halloween, dark victory and marvel civil war.

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PostRe: The Comics Thread
by Madness » Sun Aug 17, 2008 11:50 pm

I might get Civil War next time I'm in a HMV with it in stock (assuming the £10 deals still running),is it good?

And Momento,get TDKR. It's amazing.

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by Memento Mori » Sun Aug 17, 2008 11:58 pm

Madness wrote:I might get Civil War next time I'm in a HMV with it in stock (assuming the £10 deals still running),is it good?

And Momento,get TDKR. It's amazing.

Civil war is alright. As it was the first comic I've ever read I didn't have a lot to compare it too. Long Halloween is far better. TDKR was one of the few I'm considering. If I can find it I'll probably get year one for chronological reasons.

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PostRe: The Comics Thread
by Slayerx » Mon Aug 18, 2008 12:00 am

Anyone know if the comic book based on The Stand is a mini series or did someone just do a spinoff?

I'm a big fan of the film and would love to give it a read if its not too late.

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by DrDoom » Mon Aug 18, 2008 12:02 am

Slayerx wrote:Anyone know if the comic book based on The Stand is a mini series or did someone just do a spinoff?

I'm a big fan of the film and would love to give it a read if its not too late.


It's an adaptation so I imagine it will have a finite run.

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PostRe: The Comics Thread
by Slayerx » Mon Aug 18, 2008 12:07 am

DrDoom wrote:
Slayerx wrote:Anyone know if the comic book based on The Stand is a mini series or did someone just do a spinoff?

I'm a big fan of the film and would love to give it a read if its not too late.


It's an adaptation so I imagine it will have a finite run.


Thats great thanks, now to try track it down I hope its as good as the book and movie.

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PostRe: The Comics Thread
by Jax » Mon Aug 18, 2008 2:38 am

I got the Darkness collection. Pretty good, and fairly dark tone. There are some really good bits, and the inventiveness of the writers considering the protagonist is excellent.

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PostRe: The Comics Thread
by DrDoom » Tue Aug 19, 2008 11:22 am

I don't know if anyone can remember those Marvel teaser ads that ran at the comic cons over the summer. With figures in silhouette against a white background.

Anyway, the series is apparently going to be a gangster/noir story using out of continuity Marvel characters as the anti-heroes and villains.

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PostRe: The Comics Thread
by DrDoom » Tue Aug 19, 2008 12:33 pm

Top 20 Comics for July '08

1.Secret Invasion #4
2.Uncanny X-Men #500
3.Astonishing X-Men #25
4.New Avengers #43
5.Batman #678
6.Mighty Avengers #16.
7.Wolverine #67
8.Thor #10
9.JLA #23
10.Buffy #16
11.Ultimate Origins #2
12.Captain America #40
13.JSA #17.
14.Avengers Invaders #3
15.Dark Tower Long Road Home #5
16.Final Crisis Requiem #1
17.X-Force #5
18.Detective #846
19.X-Men Legacy #214
20.Amazing Spider-Man #565

Depressingly the highest non-superhero book as far as I can see is Conan at 76.

Top 20 Graphic Novels for July '08

1.Watchmen (what a surprise eh?)
2.Killing Joke Special Edition (another shocker)
3.Naruto Vol 30.
4.Ultimate X-Men Vol 18
5.Fruits Basket Vol 20
6.Thor Vol 1
7.Y The Last Man Vol 10 (Yay!)
8.Batman & Son
9.Countdown to Final Crisis Vol 2
10.Angel After the Fall HC Vol 1
11.Runaways:Dead End Kids HC
12.X-Men Endangered Species
13.Anita Blake Vol 2
14.Wanted
15.Criminal Vol 3 (Another yay!)
16.Superman Last Son (Need to pick this up at some point)
17.Walking Dead Vol 8(recommended!)
18.Mini Marvels Vol 1
19.Teen Titans Titans of Tomorrow
20.Berserk Vol 24.

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PostRe: The Comics Thread
by DrDoom » Tue Aug 19, 2008 12:37 pm

DC
Air #1 $2.54
Batgirl Vol 2 #2 $2.54
Batman And The Outsiders Vol 2 #10 $2.54
Birds Of Prey #121 $2.54
Brave And The Bold Vol 3 #16 $2.54
Casey Blue Beyond Tomorrow #4 $2.54
DC Special Cyborg #4 $2.54
DC Wildstorm Dreamwar #5 $2.54
Final Crisis Legion Of Three Worlds #1 $3.39
Flash Vol 2 #243 $2.54
Justice League Of America Vol 2 #24 $2.54
Midnighter Vol 2 Anthem TP $12.74
Rann Thanagar Holy War #4 $2.98
Robin Vol 4 #177 $2.54
Sandman Presents Dead Boy Detectives TP $11.04
Scalped #20 $2.54
Showcase Presents The Atom Vol 2 TP $14.44
Spirit Vol 6 #20 $2.54
Stormwatch PHD #13 (Worlds End Tie-In) $2.54
Super Friends Vol 2 #6 $1.91
Superman Batman #51 $2.54
Superman Chronicles Vol 5 TP $12.74
Tangent Supermans Reign #6 $2.54
Trinity #12 $2.54
World Of Warcraft #10 $2.54

Marvel
Amazing Spider-Man Vol 2 #568 $3.39
Captain America Vol 5 #41 $2.54
Foolkiller White Angels #2 $3.39
Ghost Rider Vol 5 #26 $2.54
Guardians Of The Galaxy Vol 2 #4 (Secret Invasion Tie-In) $2.54
Immortal Iron Fist Origin Of Danny Rand $3.39
Incredible Hercules #120 (Secret Invasion Tie-In) $2.54
Iron Man Director Of SHIELD #32 $2.54
Marvel 1985 #4 $3.39
Marvel Adventures Two-In-One #14 $4.24
Marvel Illustrated Iliad #1 Book Market Variant Cover $5.10
Marvel Masterworks Amazing Spider-Man Vol 10 HC $46.74
Marvel Spotlight Spider-Man Brand New Day $2.54
Mighty Avengers Vol 1 Ultron Initiative TP $12.74
Moon Knight Vol 5 #21 $2.54
Punisher MAX #61 $2.54
Punisher War Journal Classic Vol 1 TP $21.24
Skrulls vs Power Pack #2 $2.54
Spider-Man Loves Mary Jane Vol 2 HC $33.99
Squadron Supreme Vol 3 #2 $2.54
True Believers #2 $2.54
Ultimate Fantastic Four #57 $2.54
Ultimate Spider-Man Vol 20 And His Amazing Friends TP $11.04
Uncanny X-Men #501 (X-Men Manifest Destiny Tie-In) $2.54
Wolverine Logan HC Black & White Edition $16.99
X-Factor Special Layla Miller $3.39
X-Factor Vol 3 #34 (Secret Invasion Tie-In)(He Loves You Part 3) $2.54
X-Men Divided We Stand TP $11.04
X-Men First Class Vol 2 #15 $2.54
Young X-Men #5 $2.54

Dark Horse
Achewood The Great Outdoor Fight HC $12.71
Conan The Cimmerian #2 $2.54
Fear Agent #23 I Against I Part 2 $2.54
Helm #2 $2.98
Herbie Archives Vol 1 HC $42.46
MySpace Dark Horse Presents Vol 1 TP $16.96
Rex Mundi Vol 2 #13 $2.54
Star Wars Force Unleashed GN $13.56
Star Wars Knights Of The Old Republic #32 $2.54

Image
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Dark Ivory #3 $2.54
Madman Atomic Comics #10 $2.54
Witchblade By Ron Marz Vol 5 TP $15.29
Youngblood Vol 1 Focus Tested TP $8.49

IDW Publishing
Doctor Who Agent Provacateur TP $16.99
Doctor Who Forgotten #1 $3.39
Transformers All Hail Megatron #2 $3.39
Transformers Spotlight Doubledealer $3.39

Independents
2000 AD #1595 $3.83
2000 AD #1596 $3.83
Abandoned Cars HC $19.54
Anna Mercury #3 $3.39
Athena Voltaire Vol 2 Flight Of The Falcon TP $14.41
Bill Sienkiewizc 2008 Sketchbook - Bill Sin-Kev-Itch $17.00
Bloodrayne Tokyo Rogue #2 $3.39
Bluewater Productions Presents #2 $3.39
Brian Pulidos Lady Death 2007 Swimsuit Special Blood Goddess Edition $5.09
Classics Illustrated Call Of The Wild $8.49
Classics Illustrated Journey To The Center Of The Earth $8.49
Classics Illustrated Romeo & Juliet $8.49
Classics Illustrated Roughrider $12.74
Classics Illustrated Time Machine $8.49
Corrective Measures GN $12.71
Cthulhu Tales #4 Cvr B $3.39
Dead Utopia #1 $4.24
Drafted #10 $2.98
Dragonlance The Legend Of Huma Vol 1 HC $29.74
Fall Of Cthulhu Cover Gallery $3.39
Gargoyles Bad Guys #4 $2.98
Gearz #3 $3.39
Good-Bye Marianne GN $11.01
Graphic Universe Beowulf Monster Slayer SC $7.61
Graphic Universe King Arthur Fight For Camelot SC $7.61
Graphic Universe Sinbad Sailing Into Peril SC $7.61
Graphic Universe Theseus Battling The Minotaur SC $7.61
Grimm Fairy Tales Vol 1 & 2 HC Book Market Trio Cover $33.99
Hack Slash #15 $2.98
Hybrid #2 $2.98
Jason & The Argonauts Kingdom Of Hades #5 $3.39
Jenna Jamesons Shadow Hunter Limited Edition Print By Mukesh Singh $29.99
Judge Dredd Megazine #274 $6.38
Killer #8 $3.36
Largo Winch Vol 2 Takeover Bid TP $16.96
Marlow Soul Of Darkness #1 $4.21
Myth Of 8-Opus Prologue Expanded Edition GN $12.74
Naruto Posterzine 2008 $5.94
Ninjatown Adventures Of Wee Ninja #1 $5.53
Okko Cycle Of Earth #2 $3.36
Pistolfist #2 $3.39
Project Kalki #4 $2.54
PS238 #33 $2.54
Ray Harryhausen Presents Back To Mysterious Island #2 $3.39
Red Star Sword Of Lies #3 $5.09
Ret Romanne #1 $3.39
Rex Libris #12 $2.98
Shojo Beat Vol 4 #8 Sept 08 $5.09
Simpsons Comics #145 $2.54
Slaine Horned God GN Rebellion Edition $25.08
Stranded Vol 1 Limited Edition HC $25.49
Tales Of The TMNT #49 $2.76
Tiger & Crane #3 $3.39
Victorian Horrors Of Old Mauch Chunk #1 $3.36
Violet Rose #2 $3.39
Voltron A Legend Forged #2 $2.98
Warhammer 40K Exterminatus #2 $3.39
Warhammer 40K Fire & Honor #1 $3.39
When Zombies Attack #3 $3.39


Air #1
Scalped #20
Captain America #41
Moon Knight #21
Uncanny #501

A good week! Looking forward to Air.

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PostRe: The Comics Thread
by Hexx » Tue Aug 19, 2008 12:41 pm

DrDoom wrote:
Batgirl Vol 2 #2 (Maybe)
Final Crisis Legion Of Three Worlds #1
Justice League Of America Vol 2 #24
Robin Vol 4 #177
Superman Batman #51
Trinity #12

Amazing Spider-Man Vol 2 #568
Captain America Vol 5 #41
Guardians Of The Galaxy Vol 2 #4
Iron Man Director Of SHIELD #32
Ultimate Fantastic Four #57
Uncanny X-Men #501
X-Factor Special Layla Miller DO WANT!!!
X-Factor Vol 3 #34 (Secret Invasion Tie-In)(He Loves You Part 3)

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PostRe: The Comics Thread
by Dr.Clench » Tue Aug 19, 2008 12:56 pm

Does anyone know when the next hardcover collection (Vol.4) of the Walking dead is out? It's a much better read doing it in 12 issue batches and I really want the next one without going to the singles or the smaller trades...

And on another note, is anyone around here reading Mark Millar's 1985? I'm up to issue 3 at the moment and it's a very interesting read, exploring what would happen if Marvel characters (Secret Wars era) were to find a way into our "proper" world. It is taking slightly too long to build up to something considering it's supposed to be a 6-issue series, and would probably do better from lengthening it somewhat. Still, it's a nice alternative take on your everyday underwear-as-outerwear story. Anyone else got any opinions on it?

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PostRe: The Comics Thread
by DrDoom » Tue Aug 19, 2008 1:08 pm

Middle of October for the Walking Dead Hardcover IIRC.

Re:1985 I haven't been reading it though apparently it ties in somehow with his current Wolverine Arc (and maybe his FF run, not sure). I heard that there's a common thread Villain wise behind it all.

I remember first reading about 1985 and it was originally pitched as a fumetti comic.

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PostRe: The Comics Thread
by Hexx » Wed Aug 20, 2008 6:30 pm

Some from last week

Angel - After the Fall #11

Ow.

That had to hurt.

A very good issue of this series. The new art, while not perfect, is much better. It also focuses on the "core" cast, without requiring you to have read previous comics to know who people are.

I'm also glad they shide away from the "predictable" ending...

Astonishing X-men #26

I'm actually gonna copy a bit from another review, which perfectly explains why I like this...

One of Ellis’ greatest gifts is his ability to change voice on a dime, a necessity for anyone that tackles a team book, at least a team as diverse as the X-Men. As much as I loved Joss Whedon’s run (aside form the hellacious delays), his writing style bathed each character in varying degrees of snark. Sarcasm has its place in this world (shockingly says the guy from Joisey), but it can become grating when each team member’s sole goal is to “bring the funny”. Not everyone in the world is funny, sarcastic or has the ability to bandy about quips with the rapidity of Chinese Olympic ping-pong players.

By being able to let go of his ego and slide into the skin of each X-Men team member, Ellis makes even the most boring of archetypes, like the stoic team leader Scott Summers, intriguing without sacrificing his true personality. Many writers need to rely on shattering the status quo with Summers to make him interesting, like Morrison’s quarter-life crisis version, but Ellis squeezes out gorgeous characterization by letting Cyc (and frankly all of the team) just revel in being themselves.


Secret Invasion - Inhumans #1

Secret War seemingly ruins up the long set up. It started in Quicksilver: Son of M (or whatever it was called)...continued in Silent War (which I loved)...and petters out due to the requirements of a company wide cross over. Lovely.

That bad taste ruined this issue for me...

It was nice to see the follow up to something that happened...ooo....5-6 months ago? (Nice work Marvel!).

Generally we get a repeat of "Who do you trust" with the Inhumans turning on each other.

I don't get the end...why is BB still alive..and what's to stop him talking?

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PostRe: The Comics Thread
by DrDoom » Wed Aug 20, 2008 7:03 pm

Secret Invasion #5

Still not overtly quick with its pace. I always enjoy reading Bendis' dialogue though. And the last page was cool.

Captain Britain #4

Best thing to come out of SI. This issue was no different. Poor John though! The ending sets up some interesting directions for the series to go in. Can't wait.

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PostRe: The Comics Thread
by Hexx » Wed Aug 20, 2008 7:04 pm

DrDoom wrote:Secret Invasion #5

Still not overtly quick with its pace. I always enjoy reading Bendis' dialogue though. And the last page was cool.

Captain Britain #4

Best thing to come out of SI. This issue was no different. Poor John though! The ending sets up some interesting directions for the series to go in. Can't wait.


Re: CB#4

John doesn't revert to Skrull form like every other Skrull on death.

Poor drawing/editting, or hint he's still alive?

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PostRe: The Comics Thread
by Hexx » Wed Aug 20, 2008 7:10 pm

Galaxy Quest #1

(Yes that Galaxy Quest).

It doesn't work without the actors - nice try, but missing that "something" from the screen.

It also fails on one level - The Galaxy Quest film was about the actors realising what they do mattered, about them going from unhappy with their lifes, to living and loving their lifes.

In this...they know this. They don't seem to have an "arc". So it's just a few jokes tied together.


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