The Comics Thread

[Pedro]

Oh this is so right. But vast quantities of the comic fanbase don't really want diversity. How many people go into the comic shop and will buy anything with an X on the cover. I can think of a fiar few I know in my shop alone. Same with the titles headlined as the Avengers - the title Justice League Dark makes me want to but you can understand as if this was deemed Shadowpact or something similar it would probably drop 5,000 units. Depressing but true.

I try out everything that Vertigo put out as they have been consistently trying interesting things, but it depresses me that not everyone does try things out. It's great to see Image, Boom et.al trying to put out good diverse comics - but a large number of comic-folk don't give a damn. The fact is 'Batman' outsells 'Detective Comics' irrelevant of the quality of each title as some folk only buy based on the title (and I'm not talking about people buying their first comic at the newsagent I'm talking about people that should know the difference).

The fact that people will buy comics of certain characters irrelevant of whose writing it - really? You are part of the problem. Some of my favourite comics right now are on characters who initially I would have no time for - buying two Punisher titles a month being a prime example of this.

Back to the whole Marvel vs. DC - on average I would say that Marvel has the better roster of talent - Brubaker, Rucka, Hickman, Aaron and now Wood are all top-tier in my book - I just wish they'd embrace more off-kilter titles, where I find a lot of enjoyment. DC on the other hand have IMO a weaker roster of talent and appear to have talent-relation problems (so many of the above list worked for DC first and then went and signed exclusives at Marvel - shows you are doing something wrong) - but DC have allowed smaller titles to flourish and if they are allowed to take credit for the Vertigo universe as well, then that's the reason, month-on-month I find myself buying more DC.

[DrDoom]

Sadly though the amount of titles coming out of Vertigo seems to have decreased dramatically and established series like DMZ and Northlanders and Scalped are past their halfway points and on the home stretch. What is there to take over? What happened to Vertigo Crime?

This and the fact Constantine and Swamp Thing are now in the mainstream DCU doesn't bode well at all.

[Pedro]

This is true. Pissing off Wood so he went over the fence doesn't bode well. I still read Sweet Tooth, Fables, Unwritten, Scalped & American Vampire (for my money the best 'new' Vertigo title - also DMZ I read in trades). I'd really like 'em to have more titles waiting in the wings and part of me hopes that the success of the new 52 leads to Vertigo expanding their line.

[HM]

Wow marvel are really going to town axing it's fringe titles. Ghost Rider and Black Panther now, how many is that now? X-23 was cancelled the other day and it's possible more could go.

[Corazon de Leon]

Just read the synopsis of the last year or two of Spider-Man stories. Looks to me like they're building back to the original status-quo with Peter and Mary-Jane, which completely nulls the point of Brand New Day, surely?

[Beans]

Looking to get some Ultimate Spider-Man for Christmas. Where do I need to pick up from after the Ultimate Collection Vol. 3?

Is the Ultimate Collection Vol.1 worth getting for a noob? Guessing so as you are asking where to go after Vol.3

[Memento Mori]

Looking to get some Ultimate Spider-Man for Christmas. Where do I need to pick up from after the Ultimate Collection Vol. 3?

Is the Ultimate Collection Vol.1 worth getting for a noob? Guessing so as you are asking where to go after Vol.3

Most definitely. Ultimate Spider-Man was designed to be completely accessible to new readers and Ultimate Collection 1 contains the very first two volumes of Ultimate Spider-Man. I convinced Cosmo to buy it and he loved it, bought the next two Ultimate Collections not long after.

[qupe]

Having read a fair few, ahem....8, of the of the New 52 issue 1's, who is this person in the Red cloak that seems to appear in each comic in a panel?

[Memento Mori]

She's apparently going to feature in Justice League at some point. She appeared in Flashpoint and was the cause of the new universe.

[Beans]

Looking to get some Ultimate Spider-Man for Christmas. Where do I need to pick up from after the Ultimate Collection Vol. 3?

Is the Ultimate Collection Vol.1 worth getting for a noob? Guessing so as you are asking where to go after Vol.3

Most definitely. Ultimate Spider-Man was designed to be completely accessible to new readers and Ultimate Collection 1 contains the very first two volumes of Ultimate Spider-Man. I convinced Cosmo to buy it and he loved it, bought the next two Ultimate Collections not long after.

Cheers mate. Think I might treat myself

[Memento Mori]

No worries, you enjoy it.

[qupe]

In repsonse to Mori and the Red Cloaked woman

So in theory she could be an escape clause for resetting this universe?

[Memento Mori]

In theory but because it's been so successful that won't happen. When she creates the universe in Flashpoint she says some big evil is on the way so she's probably involved in the first big event.

[HM]

In theory but because it's been so successful that won't happen. When she creates the universe in Flashpoint she says some big evil is on the way so she's probably involved in the first big event.

And considering Darkseid is returning, i'm guessing he's gona be the big bad.

[bear]

Johns is writing Aquaman now so I'd put money on him being the centrepoint of the next big event.




I read Identity Crisis during the week. Even though it was an event that didn't threaten to destroy the universe/multiverse it still managed to be more affecting than the likes of Final Crisis or Blackest Night. Does Meltzer do any work still for DC or is he another they have lost?

[HM]

Seems not everything wolverine related is untouchable at marvel, now Daken: Dark Wolverine has joined X-23 and has been cancelled. Shame, I much preferred what I read of the new run to Wolverine new numbering.

Apparently Generation Hope, Avengers Academy, Thunderbolts, and X-Factor all have lower sales than X-23 (which has been the highest selling cancellation so far) but of course they'll all probably stay purely because of their links to the Avengers and X-Men cash cows.

[Dante]

Seems not everything wolverine related is untouchable at marvel, now Daken: Dark Wolverine has joined X-23 and has been cancelled. Shame, I much preferred what I read of the new run to Wolverine new numbering.

Apparently Generation Hope, Avengers Academy, Thunderbolts, and X-Factor all have lower sales than X-23 (which has been the highest selling cancellation so far) but of course they'll all probably stay purely because of their links to the Avengers and X-Men cash cows.

Apparently the reason AA wasn't cancelled was because Laurie is joing them - so combining two and keeping one of the title names

Whilst many people didn't like it, I really enjoyed and really like the Daken character

I've been buying Thunderbolts comics since issue 3 and have every single issue of X-Factor to date - I'd really hate to see them drop (especially as I boycotted Marvel last time they cancelled X-Factor)

[HM]

Well guess who else marvel are bringing back from the "dead"

Johnny Storm!

In the pages of Marvel's Fantastic Four #600, Johnny Storm -- the Human Torch -- gets reignited. That's right, after only ten months of death (and probably despair), Human Torch is back in action. Though the entire story of his return isn't told in #600 alone, the issue does serve as the starting point for the forthcoming explanation.

The Associated Press got the scoop in a discussion with Marvel Senior Editor Tom Brevoort. The editor alleviated any concern for fans that think writer Jonathan Hickman might be using a cheap back door (trapped in an alternate dimension, body switch, etc.) to bring Johnny back to life, saying, "Yes, he did die. He died a couple of times." Brevoort told AP that readers wouldn't "feel cheated."

"'FF' will also continue, and Jon will be writing both of them. They will both function as sister titles," Brevoort continued. "One focusing on the core four and the other focusing on the Future Foundation and the broader base of characters that we have assembled."

Human Torch died back in January, and in the wake of his death Marvel ended the Fantastic Four series, relaunching it as FF, adding Spider-Man and a wealth of other characters to the mix. It looks like Johnny's story will be continuing throughout the pages of both FF and Fantastic Four for the time being.

To be fair, we didn't actually see his dead body. But still.

Also

Whilst many people didn't like it, I really enjoyed and really like the Daken character

Daken Best part about Dark Avengers.

[bear]

Would anyone be interested in taking a bunch of comics I no longer want?

[Memento Mori]

What're you selling?