'Consoles Are A Problem' and 'A Step Backwards'

I'm not saying it isn't or anything like that Tyson but it should be easier to play PC games in your living room. For instance why can't Microsoft include a game launcher in the Media Center interface? Likewise why doesn't Steam have a viewing option optimised for people who want to play on their TV?

StayingDead wrote:

KKLEIN wrote:I think he's still ever so slightly bitter about what happened with Stranger's Wrath in 2005 to be honest.

For most, PC gaming has had it.

Sorry. I didn't quite see that there for the moment.

Orange Box - TF2 being one of the best Multiplayer FPS titles in a long while is only really playable on the PC. - Seems perfectly fine on the other consoles
Left 4 Dead - Will be considerably better with a keyboard and mouse. - your second opinion on prefering pc games, is one which is not even out yet, so how do we know if it plays better on an uber 8800sli rig to a home console.
Red Alert 3 - Is there even any reason to bother trying to play an RTS without a keyboard and mouse? - Ok, i will admit RTS games pwn on the pc, there is no doubt in my mind about that, although civ revolution is meant to be pretty aces.
Spore - Point proven already. Isn't a console port on its way as well?
World of Warcraft: WotLK - Might not be to some peoples tastes, but the millions of members they have online each day seems to think otherwise.

Last but not least....

Starcraft II - Sequel to the best RTS ever made.
Diablo III - Once again, self explanatory.

All fantastic titles which would be ruined if not played on a PC.

And console gaming has nothing on the pc counterparts? Some people prefer to play FPS games on home entertainment consoles, sports games are easier to control on a console (unless you get a controller,)

Pc gaming are finding it hard to compete nowadays becuase people don't want the fuss that is involved, they don't want patches, incompatability issues and stupid disc copy protection, they want something they can pick up and play with no hassle (unless you get 3rrod)

KKLEIN wrote:I think he's still ever so slightly bitter about what happened with Stranger's Wrath in 2005 to be honest.

For most, PC gaming has had it.

I think so too, the market is too confusing for casual console players, with varing specs and compatability issues. It doesn't help when Pc piracy is going unchallanged, except from that shitty pinball game, Companies are turning away from developing for the pc due to it not making them enough money no more, thats why we get a lot of games coming out of various platforms now.

TYSON wrote:

MCN wrote:When it comes to upgrading my equipment, I much prefer to buy a shiny new box over opening up my old box and fiddling with its bits.

at least you dont send a PC off for repairs every 3 months

no it just gets outdated in 2.

- Try not to double post - edit your last post instead.

You're worse than Hitler JiggerJay

JiggerJay wrote:

StayingDead wrote:

KKLEIN wrote:I think he's still ever so slightly bitter about what happened with Stranger's Wrath in 2005 to be honest.

For most, PC gaming has had it.

Sorry. I didn't quite see that there for the moment.

Orange Box - TF2 being one of the best Multiplayer FPS titles in a long while is only really playable on the PC. - Seems perfectly fine on the other consoles
Left 4 Dead - Will be considerably better with a keyboard and mouse. - your second opinion on prefering pc games, is one which is not even out yet, so how do we know if it plays better on an uber 8800sli rig to a home console.
Red Alert 3 - Is there even any reason to bother trying to play an RTS without a keyboard and mouse? - Ok, i will admit RTS games pwn on the pc, there is no doubt in my mind about that, although civ revolution is meant to be pretty aces.
Spore - Point proven already. Isn't a console port on its way as well?
World of Warcraft: WotLK - Might not be to some peoples tastes, but the millions of members they have online each day seems to think otherwise.

Last but not least....

Starcraft II - Sequel to the best RTS ever made.
Diablo III - Once again, self explanatory.

All fantastic titles which would be ruined if not played on a PC.

And console gaming has nothing on the pc counterparts? Some people prefer to play FPS games on home entertainment consoles, sports games are easier to control on a console (unless you get a controller,)

Pc gaming are finding it hard to compete nowadays becuase people don't want the fuss that is involved, they don't want patches, incompatability issues and stupid disc copy protection, they want something they can pick up and play with no hassle (unless you get 3rrod)

Patches are on consoles just as much as on pc, except on consoles the platform owner charges the devteam for the sacred right to be allowed to patch. And do you mean disc copy protection like having to have the disc in the drive when you want to play? Yeah that would get annoying, good thing none of my games require that, or if they did, they no longer do.

I'm sorry, but to try and suggest 'open disc tray, close disc tray, play' is inferior to 'Open disc tray, install, download patch, try and play, fail, adjust settings, fail, retry, uninstall, reinstall at different settings, search internet for solution, download second patch from random dude, restart, get to menu screen, try again, realise you can buy it on 360, but it on 360, open disc tray, close disc tray, finally strawberry floating play' is utter madness.

Winckle wrote:

JiggerJay wrote:

StayingDead wrote:

KKLEIN wrote:I think he's still ever so slightly bitter about what happened with Stranger's Wrath in 2005 to be honest.

For most, PC gaming has had it.

Sorry. I didn't quite see that there for the moment.

Orange Box - TF2 being one of the best Multiplayer FPS titles in a long while is only really playable on the PC. - Seems perfectly fine on the other consoles
Left 4 Dead - Will be considerably better with a keyboard and mouse. - your second opinion on prefering pc games, is one which is not even out yet, so how do we know if it plays better on an uber 8800sli rig to a home console.
Red Alert 3 - Is there even any reason to bother trying to play an RTS without a keyboard and mouse? - Ok, i will admit RTS games pwn on the pc, there is no doubt in my mind about that, although civ revolution is meant to be pretty aces.
Spore - Point proven already. Isn't a console port on its way as well?
World of Warcraft: WotLK - Might not be to some peoples tastes, but the millions of members they have online each day seems to think otherwise.

Last but not least....

Starcraft II - Sequel to the best RTS ever made.
Diablo III - Once again, self explanatory.

All fantastic titles which would be ruined if not played on a PC.

And console gaming has nothing on the pc counterparts? Some people prefer to play FPS games on home entertainment consoles, sports games are easier to control on a console (unless you get a controller,)

Pc gaming are finding it hard to compete nowadays becuase people don't want the fuss that is involved, they don't want patches, incompatability issues and stupid disc copy protection, they want something they can pick up and play with no hassle (unless you get 3rrod)

Patches are on consoles just as much as on pc, except on consoles the platform owner charges the devteam for the sacred right to be allowed to patch. And do you mean disc copy protection like having to have the disc in the drive when you want to play? Yeah that would get annoying, good thing none of my games require that, or if they did, they no longer do.

I am more intrested with the protection they put on some games to prevent you from copying them that can in rare instances mess up your cd/dvd drivers, Starforce protection isn't it?

Different people prefer different things, it would seem.

Tragic Magic wrote:Different people prefer different things, it would seem.

That strikes me as DIPLOMATIC ARGUMENT DEFUSING.

WITCH!!!

I love both the console and the PC. Timeless classics on the PC that I can play whenever with a little bit of effort. Ultimately it is the best backwards compatible machine there. Also the console is great too. Immediate gaming right there. I don't see why they have to be conflicting at all.

IronHide wrote:Until people can just stick a PC game in the drive and play it without all the above, They'll continue buying console games, myself included.

That's (one of the many reasons) why I prefer PC gaming.

I'll avoid the Winckle-like "Anyone who thinks otherwise is a wanker" (even though that's what I actually think), and say this just proves what Tragic said.

Karlprof wrote:in this topic we post misinformed opinions about pc gaming

Just because you don't agree with someone doesn't mean that the opinion is misinformed.
For me PC gaming died a long time ago due to the constant need to upgrade and tech problems (Yes, I realise these can be overcome but they should not be happening in the first place). I just prefer games on consoles now.

Sorry if I came over all wankerish yesterday.

I like gaming on consoles and PC. I just don't seem to understand why people completely hate PC gaming as it is. People complain about the constant upgrading and tech problems, but that isn't entirely true. I had my previous PC for 8 years with no problems of needing to upgrade anything until last year, which is when I got my current rig.

8 years with 1 PC isn't very long either, I only got a new one because the CPU was knackered. Some genres work on PC, and some work on console. Can't we all be friends and keep the silly control pad away from good RTS games?

Oh and to someone before who said Civ Rev works well with a pad, all I have to say is this. Yes, of course it does, it's a turn based stratergy. I'm talking more along the lines of real time stratergies which are made alot quicker and easier with hotkeys.

Peter Crisp wrote:

Karlprof wrote:in this topic we post misinformed opinions about pc gaming

Just because you don't agree with someone doesn't mean that the opinion is misinformed.

yes it does

Karlprof wrote:

Peter Crisp wrote:

Karlprof wrote:in this topic we post misinformed opinions about pc gaming

Just because you don't agree with someone doesn't mean that the opinion is misinformed.

yes it does

We all forget that Karlprof is all seeing and all knowing, look at him in the black hole thread!
Someone needs to get out more!

Both have advantages and disadvantages. The thing I find most annoying about console gaming is that developers want money for maps while on PC you can get them for free (CoD 4). The fact you have to pay to change your username on Xbox Live is also ridiculous.

IronHide wrote:Gaming on a PC is for the most part an extremely laborious and painstaking ordeal of continuous upgrading, patch downloading and entering of product keys.

Until people can just stick a PC game in the drive and play it without all the above, They'll continue buying console games, myself included.

I agree. The fact that I had to install a driver for a PC game once and some just plain don't work with no reason =instant fail.

If it were solely a PC market, gaming would now be where it is today. Sure, the technology would be there, but the audience and budget to develop modern games sure as gooseberry fool wouldn't.

Spore has the right idea - make it work on as many setups as you can. Don't always go for the ones who will happily spend hundreds to upgrade their PCs to play your game, as those people are far fewer than your potential audience.