Controversy over Eurogamer's Darkfall review

I think we were all suckered into the Sony hype machine at E3 05. How could you not be? It was one jaw dropper after another.

Songwriter wrote:I kinda like that passionate, hold onto your pants, style of journalism. It's exciting to read. Anyhoobles, it's an opinion piece, let the man be silly excited. If we, as a reader, can't make your own opinion after reading the text on any piece of text, that's their fault.

These pieces were meant to inform opinion. And that's where they went a bit wrong, since every man and his dog had already worked out the nature of the videos.

CrashHornet wrote:...should Gillen out the original review as a sham, good score or not, then there will be the situation of EG being praised for honesty but it will also call into question the judgment of appointing Zitron to do it (again, not neccesarily my opinion, but you know it will)...

I've been a signed-up member of EG for a few years now. I trust the editorial direction of the site. Far more than most others, tbh. I think Tom will stand by whatever conclusions Keiron arrives at, even if his conclusions expose the original review as a sham. I trust the writers and editorial policy at EG enough to hope they would have the courage of their convictions and own up to a bad call the first time around. And I think many of their loyal readers will stick with them because of that.

Cal wrote: I trust the writers and editorial policy at EG enough to hope they would have the courage of their convictions and own up to a bad call the first time around.

*Cough* Sensible Soccer 2006.

Yeah, after reading stuarts blog in its entirety, Its hard not to be critical of Eurogamer. I would LOVE to know who is to blame for that debacle, would the Editor really know about each and every game and/or review?

Photek wrote:Yeah, after reading stuarts blog in its entirety, Its hard not to be critical of Eurogamer. I would LOVE to know who is to blame for that debacle, would the Editor really know about each and every game and/or review?

Heh, wasn't Kristan actually the editor at the time?

CrashHornet wrote:
Photek wrote:Yeah, after reading stuarts blog in its entirety, Its hard not to be critical of Eurogamer. I would LOVE to know who is to blame for that debacle, would the Editor really know about each and every game and/or review?

Heh, wasn't Kristan actually the editor at the time?

Indeed he was. I'd love to know the full story behind the Sensi misjudgement.

Frankly, going on what I've seen so far, I'm not even convinced Xbox 360 and PS3 are the same generation.

strawberry float me :lol:

Serious egg on face.

Raze

Eighthours wrote:
CrashHornet wrote:
Photek wrote:Yeah, after reading stuarts blog in its entirety, Its hard not to be critical of Eurogamer. I would LOVE to know who is to blame for that debacle, would the Editor really know about each and every game and/or review?

Heh, wasn't Kristan actually the editor at the time?

Indeed he was. I'd love to know the full story behind the Sensi misjudgement.

Didn't Hugo class it as GOTY 2006? Maybe he genuinely loved it that much. :lol:

Raze wrote:Didn't Hugo class it as GOTY 2006? Maybe he genuinely loved it that much.

God, that's so Hugo, isn't it? :lol:

Eighthours wrote:
Raze wrote:Didn't Hugo class it as GOTY 2006? Maybe he genuinely loved it that much.

God, that's so Hugo, isn't it?

HSH's true identity finally revealed. :shock:

Hugo wrote:Hero! Hero! Hero! Hero! Hero! Hero! Hero! Hero!

I don't think I ever did get round to posting that "What? What? What? What?" response.

Raze wrote:
Eighthours wrote:
CrashHornet wrote:
Photek wrote:Yeah, after reading stuarts blog in its entirety, Its hard not to be critical of Eurogamer. I would LOVE to know who is to blame for that debacle, would the Editor really know about each and every game and/or review?

Heh, wasn't Kristan actually the editor at the time?

Indeed he was. I'd love to know the full story behind the Sensi misjudgement.

Didn't Hugo class it as GOTY 2006? Maybe he genuinely loved it that much.

I thought it was The Outfit?

Rik wrote:
Frankly, going on what I've seen so far, I'm not even convinced Xbox 360 and PS3 are the same generation.

strawberry float me

Serious egg on face.

It's pretty embarrasing :lol:

I remember hearing about that E3 stuff but this is the first time I've actually read it.

Whatever the outcome, this cock up just adds fuel to the fire (cliché-tastic!) to all those that gave up trusting game reviews a long, long time ago. They're either completely & utterly inept (as seems to be the case here), on the take or both. The days of the unflappable Amiga Power are long gone.

Raze

Harry Bizzle wrote:
Raze wrote:
Eighthours wrote:
CrashHornet wrote:
Photek wrote:Yeah, after reading stuarts blog in its entirety, Its hard not to be critical of Eurogamer. I would LOVE to know who is to blame for that debacle, would the Editor really know about each and every game and/or review?

Heh, wasn't Kristan actually the editor at the time?

Indeed he was. I'd love to know the full story behind the Sensi misjudgement.

Didn't Hugo class it as GOTY 2006? Maybe he genuinely loved it that much.

I thought it was The Outfit?

That's a misquote, Hugo never classed The Outfit as GOTY. It was merely a GOTY candidate with the potential to take the title of GOTY.

After Gertsmangate I stopped visiting Gamespot. And now another gaming website gets taken off my favourites list. Even if there's valuable info on Eurogamer, I just don't trust anything they say any more. I've got better luck reading reviews posted on this forum by our community than the websites.

Songwriter wrote:
Eighthours wrote:
While I do like EG and read it every single day, it would be a missed opportunity not to remind you of possibly the site's finest hour - the "real next gen" business back at E3 2005:

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/a_ps3gamesreaction
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/a_e32 ... itorialrob
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/a_e32 ... itorialtom

PlayStation 3 is more powerful, more fully featured, more innovative and better supported than Xbox 360. When the Sony conference kicked off, we expected to see something "a bit better" than Xbox, technologically. We didn't expect to have our most fundamental beliefs about what next-generation games will be capable of changed. That, however, is exactly what happened.

We're not just talking about a console that's twice as powerful as Xbox 360 in simple, logical terms (and bear in mind that that's a far, far greater gap in power than existed between PS2 and Xbox); we're talking about a console with more functionality, with fewer corners cut and with a genuinely more impressive line-up of software.

Perhaps the biggest blow for Microsoft though isn't that PlayStation 3 is absurdly powerful by comparison, or that it seems to do everything Xbox 360 is talking about as its USPs without those features even making the first page of the press release, or that it seems to have the support of every major company to a far greater degree, or that it has an enormous software line-up already, or that it... Well you get the picture.

What's going to be a huge blow is that having spent at least the last couple of years watching its share of the multi-platform market grow and Nintendo's dwindle and Sony's erode slightly, as Xbox proved the best platform for most of those titles, PS3 is not only going to be the platform most developers pin their banner to first in the next generation; the games are actually going to look better this time too. And with that, it's hard to take seriously Microsoft's assertion that it can be number one in this generation. You know what? Frankly, going on what I've seen so far, I'm not even convinced Xbox 360 and PS3 are the same generation.

Hook, line and sinker
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Wow. Gamer goes slightly OTT with upcoming product. It's like BioShock, KZ2, *insert your own one* never happened.

I kinda like that passionate, hold onto your pants, style of journalism. It's exciting to read. Anyhoobles, it's an opinion piece, let the man be silly excited. If we, as a reader, can't make your own opinion after reading the text on any piece of text, that's their fault.

One could most certainly say that these journalists were promised the moon. Sadly all they got was a measly lollipop.

$ilva $hadow wrote:After Gertsmangate I stopped visiting Gamespot. And now another gaming website gets taken off my favourites list. Even if there's valuable info on Eurogamer, I just don't trust anything they say any more. I've got better luck reading reviews posted on this forum by our community than the websites.

It's worth noting Gamespot has since been taken over by the considerably more respected CBS Corporation.

KKLEIN wrote:
$ilva $hadow wrote:After Gertsmangate I stopped visiting Gamespot. And now another gaming website gets taken off my favourites list. Even if there's valuable info on Eurogamer, I just don't trust anything they say any more. I've got better luck reading reviews posted on this forum by our community than the websites.

It's worth noting Gamespot has since been taken over by the considerably more respected CBS Corporation.

How long has it been since Gertsmangate anyway? If it's been over a year, I should start to visit it again.

Controversy over Eurogamer's Darkfall review

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