Could you not eat food?

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PostCould you not eat food?
by Albert » Fri Feb 22, 2013 7:48 pm

I read this, and though it was a very interesting idea/experiment, so thought I would share.

Would you/could you not eat food? Is this possible? or a load of rubbish?

I haven't eaten a bite of food in 30 days, and it's changed my life.


Food is the fossil fuel of human energy. It is an enormous market full of waste, regulation, and biased allocation with serious geo-political implications. And we're deeply dependent on it. In some countries people are dying of obesity, others starvation. In my own life I resented the time, money, and effort the purchase, preparation, consumption, and clean-up of food was consuming. I am pretty young, generally in good health, and remain physically and mentally active. I don't want to lose weight. I want to maintain it and spend less energy getting energy.

I hypothesized that the body doesn't need food itself, merely the chemicals and elements it contains. So, I resolved to embark on an experiment. What if I consumed only the raw ingredients the body uses for energy? Would I be healthier or do we need all the other stuff that's in traditional food? If it does work, what would it feel like to have a perfectly balanced diet? I just want to be in good health and spend as little time and money on food as possible.

I haven't eaten a bite of food in 30 days, and it's changed my life.

The Experiment

There are no meats, fruits, vegetables, or breads here. Besides olive oil for fatty acids and table salt for sodium and chloride nothing is recognizable as food. I researched every substance the body needs to survive, plus a few extras shown to be beneficial, and purchased all of them in nearly raw chemical form from a variety of sources. The section on the ingredients ended up being quite long so I'll save that for a future post. The first morning my kitchen looked more like a chemistry lab than a cookery, but I eventually ended up with an thick, odorless, beige liquid. I call it 'Soylent'. At the time I didn't know if it was going to kill me or give me superpowers. I held my nose and tepidly lifted it to my mouth, expecting an awful taste.

It was delicious! I felt like I'd just had the best breakfast of my life. It tasted like a sweet, succulent, hearty meal in a glass, which is what it is, I suppose. I immediately felt full, yet energized, and started my day. Several hours later I got hungry again. I quickly downed another glass and immediately felt relief. The next day I made another batch and felt even better. My energy level had skyrocketed at this point, I felt like a kid again. But on day 3 I noticed my heart was racing and my energy level was suddenly dropping. Hemoglobin! I think, my heart is having trouble getting enough oxygen to all my organs. I check my formula and realize iron is completely absent. I quickly purchase an iron supplement and add it to the mixture the next day. I have to be more careful not to leave anything out.

On day 4 I noticed how much healthier my skin was. It's long been dry and rough, with splotches and red bumps but now it's soft, smooth and clear. Before I rarely had enough energy to go to the gym, but this day I had plenty so I decided to put the diet to the test. I'd been running off and on for several months, never able to do more than a mile straight, but this day I ran 3.14 miles non-stop. This is an irrational improvement.

My cravings and tastes closely matched with my needs. One day I accidentally put in a tablespoon of salt, rather than a teaspoon. I immediately noticed the mixture tasted unpleasantly salty. When I was deficient of iron I felt a strong craving for red meat. As I started running longer distances I craved more carbohydrates. After a week advertisements for fast food looked repulsive. All I crave is Soylent.

Week 2 was rough since I started experimenting with the proportions, trying to find the optimum amount of everything. When I was off I paid for it dearly, but I soon found just the right mixture.

The rest of the month went smoothly. It quickly became part of my routine and I didn't have to think or worry about it. I was fully expecting to crave traditional food, but I don't as long as I've had my Soylent. Hunger comes from two chemicals triggered by a lack of nutrients, ghrelin and leptin, as well as mechano-sensors in the stomach. If there's something in your stomach and all your nutritional needs are met you won't feel hungry. I feel full after drinking a single glass of Soylent and while the smell of Mexican food from the street used to drive me crazy, now I am unaffected. It's like finding a new partner you really care about. When all your needs are met, you don't have a desire to stray.
Results


Quantitative

I had my blood tested in two ways: complete blood count and chemical panel, and got a lipid panel near the end. This shows stuff like red/white blood cell counts, Na, K, P proportions, and more. The internist had to bill it as "testing for blood-borne diseases". She said a lot of providers do not support preventative care, which I thought was strange. I also monitored my heart rate, and bought a glucose meter to track my blood sugar (I'm not diabetic). I am 6'3" so my BMI was on the upper end of normal at the start. Remember I am not trying to lose weight here.
Week 0 Week 1 Week 2 Week 3 Week 4
Weight (lbs) 204 196 192 188 191
Blood Work report (pdf) report (pdf)
Max run <1mi 3.5mi 5mi 6mi 7mi
Notes low blood sugar,
is this why I always
elt tired? one belt loop down feel great two belt loops down,
blood work excellent started getting chilly,
added a few pounds

I wasn't able to get a lipid test until week 3 but my triglycerides and cholesterol are certainly low now. I have a family history of heart disease, but my risk is now well below average.

I also got my genome sequenced. Genetically, my body's response to exercise should be typical, along with my response to diet, though on average I should have a slightly higher BMI, consistent with my status before the experiment. My LDL cholesterol is subject to be slightly higher than average, while my HDL levels typical. Though this is only one case, it should be representative of most people since my diet and exercise genetics are typical. Some people can eat all they want and never gain weight, others can't shed pounds no matter how hard they try. The trick is in the genome, though both extremes are uncommon. 23andme is awesome!


Qualitative

I feel like the six million dollar man. My physique has noticeably improved, my skin is clearer, my teeth whiter, my hair thicker and my dandruff gone. My resting heart rate is lower, I haven't felt the least bit sickly, rare for me this time of year. I've had a common skin condition called Keratosis Pilaris since birth. That was gone by day 9. I used to run less than a mile at the gym, now I can run 7. I have more energy than I know what to do with. On day 4 I caught myself balancing on the curb and jumping on and off the sidewalk when crossing the street like I used to do when I was a kid. People gave me strange looks but I just smiled back. Even my scars look better.

My mental performance is also higher. My inbox and to-do list quickly emptied. I 'get' new concepts in my reading faster than before and can read my textbooks twice as long without mental fatigue. I read a book on Number Theory in one sitting, a Differential Geometry book in a weekend, filling up a notebook in the process. Mathematical notation that used to look obtuse is now beautiful. My working memory is noticeably better. I can grasp larger software projects and longer and more complex scientific papers more effectively. My awareness is higher. I find music more enjoyable. I notice beauty and art around me that I never did before. The people around me seem sluggish. There are fewer 'ums' and pauses in my spoken sentences. My reflexes are improved. I walk faster, feel lighter on my feet, spend less time analyzing and performing basic tasks and rely on my phone less for navigation. I sleep better, wake up more refreshed and alert and never feel drowsy during the day. I still drink coffee occasionally, but I no longer need it, which is nice.


Time

I used to spend about 2 hours per day on food. Typically I would cook eggs for breakfast, eat out for lunch, and cook a quesadilla, pasta, or a burger for dinner. For every meal at home I would then have to clean and dry the dishes. This does not include trips to the grocery store. Now I spend about 5 minutes in the evening preparing for the next day, and every meal takes a few seconds. I love order of magnitude improvements, and I certainly don't miss doing dishes. In fact I could get rid of the kitchen entirely, no fridge sucking down power, no constant cleaning or worrying about pests, and more living space. I just need a water source.


Money

Monthly I was spending about $220 on groceries, and another $250 eating out for lunch and the occasional dinner. The average american spends $604/month on food, about half of which is groceries.1,2 As a percentage of income this is actually the lowest of any nation. Kenyans for example spend 45% of their income on food.3 I used to dream of one day being able to afford shopping at Whole Foods, but now it's irrelevant to me. Consuming only Soylent costs me about $50/month, another order of magnitude improvement, and would be cheaper if I didn't need the energy for running every day. At scale the cost would be even lower.


The Quantified Diet

It's wonderful to have full visibility and control over what's going in to my body. Besides making food allergies irrelevant, it's trivial to increase or reduce consumption of a particular substance by a precise amount. I am hopeful diabetics could use this to control their blood sugar. I was able to control mine to within about 5mg/dL by varying carbohydrates and fiber. Starting a more intense workout routine? Increase protein and carbohydrates 20%. Want to lose some weight? Reduce fat consumption by 30% (don't eliminate it entirely!). Blood work shows potassium deficiency? Increase it by the precise amount required. In fact, unless you work on a banana plantation you're probably not getting the recommended amount of potassium (3500mg is 9 bananas), and never have. Ever wonder what it would feel like if you did?


Social Implications

As any Instagram user knows, food is a big part of life. Food can be art, comfort, science, celebration, romance, or a reason to meet with friends. Most of the time it's just a hassle, though. Americans only eat out for 12% of meals. I think it would be nice to have a default, healthy no hassle meal. Similar to drinking water most of the time, but wine or beer when you're socializing. If you saved money on food at home you would have the freedom to go out more often.

I for one would not miss the stereotype of the housewife in the kitchen. Providing diverse, palatable, and nutritious meals for an entire family every day must be exhausting. What if taking a night off didn't mean unhealthy pizza or expensive take out? How wasteful society has been with its women! The endless hours spent cooking and cleaning in the kitchen could be replaced with socializing, study, or creative endeavors. And why beg children to eat vegetables? Soylent has every vitamin and mineral the body needs, and it's delicious.

To me diet always seemed to be a trade-off. Time, money, health: pick two. You certainly have the capability to be healthy, but it will cost you. What about the single mom, the poor student, struggling entrepreneur or artist, the unemployed, or the elderly? These people desperately need energy, and its harder for them to be healthy than anyone else. Living on fast food and ramen is cheap and convenient, but unhealthy. Shopping at places like Whole Foods costs a fortune to many people and cooking healthy recipes takes practice and time. Cooking should be a hobby, like hunting. People used to hunt for survival, now they just do it for fun.


Global Implications

With Soylent you can be in peak mental and physical condition for less than $2/day. Soylent does not spoil for months, does not require refrigeration, is easy to transport, cheap and environmentally friendly to produce, contains no pesticides, hormones, or preservatives, is trivial to prepare, without even requiring a heat source (though you do need clean water), does no harm to animals, and drastically lowers sanitation requirements. I almost forgot to mention, when everything going in to your body is diffused in to the bloodstream, you don't poop. I only have to remove a few grams of fiber from my system per week. I also noticed I was generating far less trash than before. The vast majority of personal refuse is food-related. Why else would the trash can always be in the kitchen?
Discussion

This is one case and it's only been a month, so it's early, but I'm certainly not stopping now. Also, every body is different and there may be long term effects so more data is necessary. However, I am consuming no toxins or carcinogens and I get all the nutrition and energy I need with about 1/3 the calories the average American consumes so I hope in the long term my longevity will be improved (caloric restriction has been shown to reverse the effects of aging in rodents)4,5 while lowering my risk of cancer and disease. If you would like to try this experiment as well please contact me so we can pool our results. It's fine to have a normal meal too, nutritional fundamentalists really irk me. The point is freedom, you don't have to. I started consuming Soylent exclusively just to test the effects. I see nothing wrong with eating traditional food as well, I just don't have much of a desire to. The only thing I missed was eating with friends. Now that 30 days are up I'm going to start doing that again. I only drink socially, and now I only eat socially.

I notice only now how much of this city is devoted to the stuff. Wherever you are I challenge you to find a search term for google maps that returns more results than "food". Travelling back home to the American south I am still shocked to see how prevalent obesity is. How many people still spend their lives just surviving, living to eat, and it's killing them? The food is eating us. I don't know how to change peoples' behavior, but now that I've discovered Soylent, I'm healthier than I've ever been, have more freedom with my time and money, and never have to worry about the stuff. Finally, I can have my cake and eat it too.


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PostRe: Could you not eat food?
by Xeno » Fri Feb 22, 2013 7:53 pm

The guy is a whack job or he is a whack job trying to sell something.

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Xeno wrote:Chewing takes effort. What he needs is Emma Watson to chew his food then transfer it to him for him to swallow.

I dont know why, but that sounds strawberry floating incredible.

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PostRe: Could you not eat food?
by Qikz » Fri Feb 22, 2013 7:56 pm

I love food so much that I wouldn't be able to go without it. :slol:

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PostRe: Could you not eat food?
by Slartibartfast » Fri Feb 22, 2013 8:00 pm

Buuuuuuullshit. Soylent Green was what people are made into in that Charlton Heston film.

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PostRe: Could you not eat food?
by Slartibartfast » Fri Feb 22, 2013 8:03 pm

Anung wrote:
Slartibartfast wrote:Buuuuuuullshit. Soylent Green was what people are made into in that Charlton Heston film.

strawberry floating SPOILERS.

Charlie Brooker spoiled it for me.

SPREAD THE LOVE.

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PostRe: Could you not eat food?
by Lotus » Fri Feb 22, 2013 8:06 pm

First thought: complete bullshit.
Second though: even if it was real, I enjoy cooking food and eating food too much, so even if it was available I wouldn't want it.

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PostRe: Could you not eat food?
by Vermin » Fri Feb 22, 2013 8:22 pm

Give it a couple of months...



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PostRe: Could you not eat food?
by PuppetBoy » Fri Feb 22, 2013 8:27 pm

I'd be prepared to give it a trial.

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PostRe: Could you not eat food?
by Slartibartfast » Fri Feb 22, 2013 9:26 pm

Imagine what this would do to your bowels, with no dietary fibre whatsoever. Your gut would turn to mush.

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PostRe: Could you not eat food?
by Bunni » Fri Feb 22, 2013 9:31 pm

No strawberry floating way. I love me some food. All the tastes and textures. Simple pleasures of fulfilling a craving, and waiting for dinner ot be served. Socialising too, good food with friends is worth much more than clear skin.

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PostRe: Could you not eat food?
by Knoyleo » Fri Feb 22, 2013 9:35 pm

I resented the time, money, and effort the purchase, preparation, consumption, and clean-up of food was consuming.

So this guy is just too lazy to cook proper and enjoyable meals.

I enjoy food too much to give it up and go on a nutrient based liquid diet like that. Where's he getting his fibre from, too? Alot of the benefits he mentions could have been achieved simply by adjusting his food diet, too, they aren't something that comes with just giving up on food.

I guess, if this is proven to be a viable and sustainable means by which to feed people, great, you could probably mass produce this liquid for use in famine areas, or even as compact rations, but I can't see it being anything other than a niche desire, or something for people who need strict control over their diet and are too lazy to look at what's in the food they're eating.

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PostRe: Could you not eat food?
by Igor » Fri Feb 22, 2013 9:55 pm

He says he adds fibre to the mixture and also claims that he doesn't gooseberry fool much.

While I'd love to have such delicate control over what goes into my body (I suffer from several vitamin deficiencies), I'd find it really difficult to give up certain foods. I just made a burger so tasty that I wish I could have strawberry floated it before eating it. Can't give that up.

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PostRe: Could you not eat food?
by Knoyleo » Fri Feb 22, 2013 9:57 pm

Igor wrote:I just made a burger so tasty that I wish I could have strawberry floated it before eating it. Can't give that up.

Oh man, that feel. :datass:

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PostRe: Could you not eat food?
by Ironhide » Fri Feb 22, 2013 10:05 pm

Even if this wasn't total bullshit I enjoy eating nice food too much to give up eating.

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PostRe: Could you not eat food?
by TheTurnipKing » Fri Feb 22, 2013 10:05 pm

There's no reason you couldn't continue to eat solid food - all you'd need to do is subtract the nutritional value of the food from the chemicals consumed.

You could just use the ...soylent (what a stupid strawberry floating name) to fill any nutritional shortfalls of your standard diet.

In effect it's just a means of ensuring you "eat" a balanced diet, which the traditional method of food prep makes awkward.

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PostRe: Could you not eat food?
by Bunni » Fri Feb 22, 2013 10:08 pm

I'm making cake batter that is so good it makes me wish I had a dick to stick in it.

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by Oblomov Boblomov » Fri Feb 22, 2013 10:30 pm

I love eating food so much, but I could definitely see myself using something like this. The extra work you could get done, the more spare time you could have, the sheer convenience of it... it would be too good not to take advantage of.

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PostRe: Could you not eat food?
by Jax » Fri Feb 22, 2013 10:47 pm

I'd probably try it.

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PostRe: Could you not eat food?
by Preezy » Fri Feb 22, 2013 11:55 pm

Dude needs to get out more, strawberry floating hippie.

Mankind has eaten food since day dot, always has, always will.

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PostRe: Could you not eat food?
by Dual » Sat Feb 23, 2013 12:04 am

i could do this


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