Dark Family Animated Movies

PostDark Family Animated Movies by **shy guy 64** » Mon Feb 13, 2023 7:37 pm

how do you feel about dark kids films? particularly the animated sort. the likes of disney's hunchback, coraline, watership down etc. do you think they're a good thing to have adding a sense of variety to this kind of movie or would you rather there were none? should there be more or perhaps less? does the industry even have the guts to make them like that anymore?

PostRe: Dark Family Animated Movies by **Moggy** » Mon Feb 13, 2023 7:38 pm

Turn the contrast up a bit.

PostRe: Dark Family Animated Movies by **Cuttooth** » Mon Feb 13, 2023 8:13 pm

Isn’t the new Puss in Boots movie meant to be quite dark, dealing with the fear of dying?

PostRe: Dark Family Animated Movies by **rinks** » Mon Feb 13, 2023 8:26 pm

I think “dark” is too vague a term. You could argue that pretty much every film has a dark element, if there’s a villain or a perilous situation. If you mean directly addressing death as a subject, of course there’s a place for it. Kids can’t live in candy floss land for ever.

PostRe: Dark Family Animated Movies by **Squinty** » Mon Feb 13, 2023 8:36 pm

The king of this. Genocide, war, killing, all within the first 30 minutes :toot:

rinks wrote:I think “dark” is too vague a term. You could argue that pretty much every film has a dark element, if there’s a villain or a perilous situation. If you mean directly addressing death as a subject, of course there’s a place for it. Kids can’t live in candy floss land for ever.

death as a theme isn't quite what i was meaning. i suppose i sort of meant films with a more sinister edge. where sure there are light moments but they can be really heavy at times. like how in hunchback frollo goes mad(er) from lust, in coraline the ghosts of children and to use an example from a tv show in gargoyles one character accidently shoots another

PostRe: Dark Family Animated Movies by **massimo** » Mon Feb 13, 2023 11:45 pm

I have a five year old son and I’ve always been militant about what he watches. I avoid anything with any adult themes or humour, anything where the characters act like c*nts, and including Disney movies which I consider to be too inappropriate or dark.
Eg. he started watching Frozen once (I wasn’t actually there at the time and wouldn’t have let it happen if I were) and apparently he got really upset right at the beginning because it’s about the parents dying or something? Yeah I just don’t want my child having to deal with that gooseberry fool.
Haven’t seen the films you mention but I’m inclined to avoid anything remotely dark or adult themed which is aimed at children.

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massimo wrote:I have a five year old son and I’ve always been militant about what he watches. I avoid anything with any adult themes or humour, anything where the characters act like c*nts, and including Disney movies which I consider to be too inappropriate or dark.
Eg. he started watching Frozen once (I wasn’t actually there at the time and wouldn’t have let it happen if I were) and apparently he got really upset right at the beginning because it’s about the parents dying or something? Yeah I just don’t want my child having to deal with that gooseberry fool.
Haven’t seen the films you mention but I’m inclined to avoid anything remotely dark or adult themed which is aimed at children.

Well now I’m questioning my childhood

Btw I would suggest avoiding Beauty and the Beast, Tangled, Treasure Planet, the Princess and the Frog, Big Hero 6, Raya and the Last Dragon, Tarzan, Moana. None of them are particularly dark, neither is Frozen but they do feature similar themes

PostRe: Dark Family Animated Movies by **rinks** » Tue Feb 14, 2023 12:08 am

massimo wrote:he got really upset right at the beginning because it’s about the parents dying or something? Yeah I just don’t want my child having to deal with that gooseberry fool.

Unless you’re immortal, I have some bad news for you.

PostRe: Dark Family Animated Movies by **massimo** » Tue Feb 14, 2023 12:29 am

I don’t need my child having nightmares about his parents dying and leaving him, so I’ll skip the awful Disney musicals.
Don’t get me wrong though, some movies or shows can handle these sort of topics really well. Pixar for example. They seem to tackle difficult subjects in a much more family friendly way.

PostRe: Dark Family Animated Movies by **Frank** » Tue Feb 14, 2023 5:55 am

"Don't want my child watching films with sad themes"
"Pixar is fine though"

:lol:

In Frozen they kill the parents off in a ten second scene during a musical number, in most Pixar things they'll beat you round the head with the emotional hook until everyone watching is completely broken.

Have you watched the Good Dinosaur? :dread.

PostRe: Dark Family Animated Movies by **Vermilion** » Tue Feb 14, 2023 8:27 am

massimo wrote:I have a five year old son and I’ve always been militant about what he watches.

You organise a mass protest outside parliament if he watches something you don't approve of?

PostRe: Dark Family Animated Movies by **Moggy** » Tue Feb 14, 2023 8:30 am

Vermilion wrote:
massimo wrote:I have a five year old son and I’ve always been militant about what he watches.

You organise a mass protest outside parliament if he watches something you don't approve of?

He's spent the last 5 years waging a guerrilla war against the entire city of Anaheim.

PostRe: Dark Family Animated Movies by **Benzin** » Tue Feb 14, 2023 8:36 am

Frank wrote:"Don't want my child watching films with sad themes"
"Pixar is fine though"

In Frozen they kill the parents off in a ten second scene during a musical number, in most Pixar things they'll beat you round the head with the emotional hook until everyone watching is completely broken.

Have you watched the Good Dinosaur? :dread.

Can't wait to expose my child to the absolute fear of miscarriage during a medley of scenes attached to a jaunty tune :toot:

Or a robot getting crushed to near-death :toot:

Kids have gotta be exposed to these sort of things. And Mufasa still gets me even all the years later. It's about the way the lesson is taught and how the characters react that allows them to learn that these situations can happen in real life.

I don't think there's many kids films (especially animated) which don't involve some form of death or peril.

Only things that are 100% being banned in our house are Peppa Pig (awful character for kids to learn from) and Cocomelon (due to the overstimulation).

She'll 100% be watching the Disney films though. And a few other ones here and there. Definitely concerned about having to go and see some of the gooseberry fool offerings that get released though.

Can't protect your kids from the 'evils' of the world forever. And often it's better they learn from it through media than actually having to experience it for real themselves and not being able to draw upon anything to work out the emotions to it.

PostRe: Dark Family Animated Movies by **Frank** » Tue Feb 14, 2023 8:41 am

I mean Onward is literally about two fellas trying to resurrect their dead dad for one last day together :lol:

PostRe: Dark Family Animated Movies by **Octoroc** » Tue Feb 14, 2023 8:51 am

Sometimes it works the other way. I remember watching Old Jack's Boat - The Christmas Quest on CBeebies- the kids were fine, but I was in pieces.

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PostRe: Dark Family Animated Movies by **Squinty** » Tue Feb 14, 2023 9:02 am

I agree with attempting to shield really young kids from death in media. Wait until they are older.

PostRe: Dark Family Animated Movies by **Moggy** » Tue Feb 14, 2023 9:07 am

Frank wrote:I mean Onward is literally about two fellas trying to resurrect their dead dad for one last day together

I wouldn't show kids Onward, but mostly because it's gooseberry fool.

PostRe: Dark Family Animated Movies by **massimo** » Tue Feb 14, 2023 9:35 am

Frank wrote:"Don't want my child watching films with sad themes"

I didn’t say that.

Frank wrote:"Pixar is fine though"

Pixar handles these sorts of topics better than most companies.

Frank wrote:In Frozen they kill the parents off in a ten second scene during a musical number, in most Pixar things they'll beat you round the head with the emotional hook until everyone watching is completely broken.
Have you watched the Good Dinosaur? :dread.

I haven’t actually seen Frozen, that bloody song is enough to keep me away from it.
The Good Dinosaur, yeah. Great film, definitely one of the scarier Pixar movies. My son watched it when he was really little and I would usual skip through any really scary scenes, but he didn’t really process it at that age though.
He hasn’t really watched Pixar movies now for a couple of years and prefers to watch kids shows like Octonauts or Ada Twist, that sort of stuff.

Moggy wrote:
Frank wrote:I mean Onward is literally about two fellas trying to resurrect their dead dad for one last day together

I wouldn't show kids Onward, but mostly because it's gooseberry fool.

Funnily enough, I tried watching Onward with him and he instantly didn’t like it because of that whole theme of the father having died.

Squinty wrote:I agree with attempting to shield really young kids from death in media. Wait until they are older.

I agree, not sure what the urgency is.

PostRe: Dark Family Animated Movies by **Benzin** » Tue Feb 14, 2023 9:37 am

Moggy wrote:
Frank wrote:I mean Onward is literally about two fellas trying to resurrect their dead dad for one last day together

I wouldn't show kids Onward, but mostly because it's gooseberry fool.

Second, although as an only child it was never going to have the same impact as to those with siblings.

Squinty wrote:I agree with attempting to shield really young kids from death in media. Wait until they are older.

What's the right age though? The problem with this is that real life might throw the death dice at super young kids so they'll get exposed to it anyway.

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