Depression, Anxiety, or other Mental Health Conditions

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by jawafour » Wed Oct 18, 2017 11:53 am

Corazon de Leon wrote:Do you work from home Jawa?

I’m out of work at the moment, Cora, and have been for a while now. It was great at first but I’ve sat around burning through money and now I’m panicking a little because I will need to be back in work pretty soon and yet I’m doing zero about it.

I gotta shake myself up and get going again.

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PostRe: Depression, Anxiety, or other Mental Health Conditions
by Saigon Slick » Wed Oct 18, 2017 12:03 pm

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Corazon de Leon wrote:Do you work from home Jawa?

I’m out of work at the moment, Cora, and have been for a while now. It was great at first but I’ve sat around burning through money and now I’m panicking a little because I will need to be back in work pretty soon and yet I’m doing zero about it.

I gotta shake myself up and get going again.


Ah, apologies if that was a sore point. Perhaps it's worth pushing yourself even to apply for a job every week while you're going through this rough patch - it may help you get back into employment and will make you feel like you've achieved something for the time you've spent creating applications etc. What is your industry, if you don't mind me asking?

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PostRe: Depression, Anxiety, or other Mental Health Conditions
by Green Gecko » Wed Oct 18, 2017 12:18 pm

I've been trying really hard to get up at 7am and eat breakfast, managed to for 5 days straight but every other day I nap for a few hours on the sofa. Really need to listen to the idea of playing some games for even 3hrs to stay awake, surely that's the best thing ever? I can do that and work at 11am or whatever. At least until it gets easier.

For anyone that does work at home because of issues or circumstances or whatever I do recommend working somewhere public at least 1 day a week, I'm already putting it off each week though. Isolation and motivation is ridiculously hard when your body and mind just says, strawberry float it I want to be a cocoon for another few hours.

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PostRe: Depression, Anxiety, or other Mental Health Conditions
by jawafour » Wed Oct 18, 2017 12:45 pm

Corazon de Leon wrote:Ah, apologies if that was a sore point. Perhaps it's worth pushing yourself even to apply for a job every week... What is your industry, if you don't mind me asking?

No worries, Cora - I need to give myself a boot up the backside and start applying for stuff. I used to work in the banking industry - project and support work rather than branch banking - but I definitely do not want to return to that. Literally no idea what, though.

Green Gecko wrote:I've been trying really hard to get up at 7am and eat breakfast, managed to for 5 days straight... For anyone that does work at home because of issues or circumstances or whatever I do recommend working somewhere public at least 1 day a week...

Top stuff for getting into that regular routine, Gecko! I am cautious about working from home - it suits some people but, for me, I prefer to keep my home a separate place from work - even though the travel can sometimes be a pain. Different strokes for different folks, though.

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PostRe: Depression, Anxiety, or other Mental Health Conditions
by Green Gecko » Wed Oct 18, 2017 12:53 pm

Ideally I would have a workshop/studio elsewhere but strawberry float me is it expensive. Gives me an incentive to grow though, not that I'm looking forward to the majority of my earnings going to a 2nd lease. At least I get the same tax relief.

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PostRe: Depression, Anxiety, or other Mental Health Conditions
by still » Wed Oct 18, 2017 4:16 pm

jawafour wrote:
Corazon de Leon wrote:Ah, apologies if that was a sore point. Perhaps it's worth pushing yourself even to apply for a job every week... What is your industry, if you don't mind me asking?

No worries, Cora - I need to give myself a boot up the backside and start applying for stuff. I used to work in the banking industry - project and support work rather than branch banking - but I definitely do not want to return to that. Literally no idea what, though.

Green Gecko wrote:I've been trying really hard to get up at 7am and eat breakfast, managed to for 5 days straight... For anyone that does work at home because of issues or circumstances or whatever I do recommend working somewhere public at least 1 day a week...

Top stuff for getting into that regular routine, Gecko! I am cautious about working from home - it suits some people but, for me, I prefer to keep my home a separate place from work - even though the travel can sometimes be a pain. Different strokes for different folks, though.


Surely you need to get into something with a creative side??

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PostRe: Depression, Anxiety, or other Mental Health Conditions
by Johnny Ryall » Wed Oct 18, 2017 6:11 pm

Been having a pretty crap week myself just trapped inside my own head. I know I have good spells and bad spells though so I'll wait it out. A good work friend cracked this joke that honestly is pretty true "you know how some people are glass half full/glass half empty. Mate your glass has been nicked, it's gone."

I am going to make an effort to stop being so dead pan because I think it is being mistaken for being mean. :)

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PostRe: Depression, Anxiety, or other Mental Health Conditions
by jawafour » Wed Oct 18, 2017 6:25 pm

still wrote:Surely you need to get into something with a creative side??

Yeah, I’d really like to do something that has at least a degree of a creative bent, still.

Johnny Ryall wrote:Been having a pretty crap week myself just trapped inside my own head. I know I have good spells and bad spells though so I'll wait it out...

It’s a strange feeling isn’t it, Johnny? You kinda know yourself that a darker period has arrived but it often feels like you can’t dig yourself out if it. Maybe you could do a couple of things that take your mind of it for a while? It sounds silly but, for me, I can play PES during those times because I have to totally concentrate and I can forget about other crappy stuff for a while. Hope you find something that does it for you, dude.

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PostRe: Depression, Anxiety, or other Mental Health Conditions
by Johnny Ryall » Wed Oct 18, 2017 8:14 pm

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still wrote:Surely you need to get into something with a creative side??

Yeah, I’d really like to do something that has at least a degree of a creative bent, still.

Johnny Ryall wrote:Been having a pretty crap week myself just trapped inside my own head. I know I have good spells and bad spells though so I'll wait it out...

It’s a strange feeling isn’t it, Johnny? You kinda know yourself that a darker period has arrived but it often feels like you can’t dig yourself out if it. Maybe you could do a couple of things that take your mind of it for a while? It sounds silly but, for me, I can play PES during those times because I have to totally concentrate and I can forget about other crappy stuff for a while. Hope you find something that does it for you, dude.


I went a run and didn't stop until my Fitbit said 10K which is a PB now! Alas when you're sat in an office at 1pm saying to yourself "oh strawberry float me 4 more hours of this" you can't take off and run but I feel good now. :-)

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PostRe: Depression, Anxiety, or other Mental Health Conditions
by jawafour » Wed Oct 18, 2017 8:33 pm

Johnny Ryall wrote:I went a run and didn't stop until my Fitbit said 10K which is a PB now!...

That's good going, Johnny! :o .

Johnny Ryall wrote:...but I feel good now. :-)

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PostRe: Depression, Anxiety, or other Mental Health Conditions
by jawafour » Wed Oct 18, 2017 8:53 pm

still wrote:http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-41445840

^BBC has been posting a series of these articles. May help some people??

I find that it can be useful to read how other folk cope with these situations. Picking up on still's idea, here is Chris Kirkland's (the former football goalkeeper) story.

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PostRe: Depression, Anxiety, or other Mental Health Conditions
by still » Thu Oct 19, 2017 1:22 pm

Nicked from the Guardian games page:-

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/ ... s-calm-app

One of the clearest explanations of the benefits of mindfulness meditation under the paragraph 'the benefits of....) Don't get me wrong, meditation is something I should do not what I do. I have tried on and off in the past but I have the attention span of a gnat - the very thing mindfulness can help with!! I think what I need is a group to sit with on a weekly basis rather than just trying on my lonesome...

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PostRe: Depression, Anxiety, or other Mental Health Conditions
by Green Gecko » Thu Oct 19, 2017 1:48 pm

You can practice mindfulness for just 2 or 3 minutes per day and still have mental health benefits though as it starts to change the brain and patterns of thought, without deliberately trying to control thoughts (which is what most people get wrong about meditation). I definitely think it has helped. And it has even helped me overcome body aches and strains on occasion. Pretty cool feeling when your body is just letting go for a few minutes.

I also went to chiropractor recently due to neck problems. First time I got an adjustment to my lower back. It was bizarre the degree of relief, it actually made me laugh out loud like a nutcase and I got dizzy (may have been left over tranquilliser). But for the next few days I felt like I could spin my legs on the joints like some crazy dance man.

I've been resting a LOT. I think sometimes you need to turn attention to physical wellbeing if you spend so much time caught up in thoughts, as they are linked, and we really shouldn't consider the two separate.

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by Tragic Magic » Fri Oct 20, 2017 8:33 am

Not sure if this is at all related to the fact I've started taking anti depressants but I've woken up this morning with the idea for a story that I feel desperate to attempt writing it as a book. Like so desperate I'd ring in sick to work so I could shut myself in a room with my computer, if I hadn't already used loads of sick this month. Since waking up I've made so many notes about the plot and I can't switch my mind off to think of anything else.

I just hope that this feverish inspiration stays with me long enough that I actually go through with it and make a start. I used to love painting and drawing years ago but my creative juices all but dried up. I'm sure if I actually managed to write a book it would probably be a bit gooseberry fool but I feel like I have to do it regardless. I just hope I still feel like this tonight so I can plan a structure or even just write some of the sections I've already conceived so I feel like I have something tangible that I can slot in if I start making real progress.

Sorry for rambling, my mind's just racing and I thought maybe someone could relate to this feeling.

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by still » Fri Oct 20, 2017 9:02 am

Tragic Magic wrote:Not sure if this is at all related to the fact I've started taking anti depressants but I've woken up this morning with the idea for a story that I feel desperate to attempt writing it as a book. Like so desperate I'd ring in sick to work so I could shut myself in a room with my computer, if I hadn't already used loads of sick this month. Since waking up I've made so many notes about the plot and I can't switch my mind off to think of anything else.

I just hope that this feverish inspiration stays with me long enough that I actually go through with it and make a start. I used to love painting and drawing years ago but my creative juices all but dried up. I'm sure if I actually managed to write a book it would probably be a bit gooseberry fool but I feel like I have to do it regardless. I just hope I still feel like this tonight so I can plan a structure or even just write some of the sections I've already conceived so I feel like I have something tangible that I can slot in if I start making real progress.

Sorry for rambling, my mind's just racing and I thought maybe someone could relate to this feeling.


My mind tends to race a lot. That's why I really should take meditation up again! When I was a child I loved creative writing - the thoughts would come so quickly I couldn't write them down fast enough - (literally...) I remember my 'O' level English being like this - I was frantic. As a result my 'hand writing' was truly terrible! I still have a problem with my mind being all over the place..

I think you might be having an early side effect of your new meds - they do take a while to settle down. Still, write down your ideas and why not try and write that book - if only as an exercise to prove you can. Hopefully once the meds settle in your mind will settle too.

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PostRe: Depression, Anxiety, or other Mental Health Conditions
by jawafour » Fri Oct 20, 2017 1:18 pm

Tragic Magic wrote:...I've woken up this morning with the idea for a story that I feel desperate to attempt writing it as a book.

...I just hope that this feverish inspiration stays with me long enough that I actually go through with it and make a start. I used to love painting and drawing years ago but my creative juices all but dried up....

Do it, Tragic! Strike whilst the inspiration and belief are there! I don’t know about you, but I find that if you leave it a while then thoughts often turn to “why it wouldn’t work” and / or “it won’t be good enough”. Don’t let your ideas be extinguished in this way. I suspect you’ll feel good just making a start on it.

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by Green Gecko » Fri Oct 20, 2017 1:21 pm

I think when you are treating depression you will have fleeting moments of wellness and excitement and I think it's important to make the best of those times. Just be careful to drink plenty of water, don't stay up late, and remember to take care of yourself so you don't put yourself into a slump by not attending to your needs.

I mean, I was so trying to get something done the other day I almost pissed myself :lol: You may find it difficult at first but easier in the long run to manage the depressive swings and do what you enjoy or need to get done when you are feeling better. I like to think this is when your mind and body are able to work together to get stuff done rather than fighting against aches or low mood or both, and yes there have been many occasions where I have sprung into a hive of activity and then a week later I wonder what happened to that feeling. It's usually when I "forget" or put off to eat or sleep in the same way I do when I'm feeling awful. It's a mixed blessing, so just try to stay aware of your feelings while not getting whisked away from them.

In similar situations I've written songs and produced music, it's a certain energy that isn't particularly practical for doing boring, mindless things. I also sometimes do woodwork or more recently machining as that's part of my business. Actually it was probably in a similar moment that I dropped a load of money on equipment and started the whole thing and, so far, have not put myself in a worse position by doing so but set up the means for a practical way of life.

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by jawafour » Fri Oct 20, 2017 1:31 pm

Green Gecko wrote:I think when you are treating depression you will have fleeting moments of wellness and excitement and I think it's important to make the best of those times. Just be careful to drink plenty of water, don't stay up late, and remember to take care of yourself so you don't put yourself into a slump by not attending to your needs...

I do wonder if folk who suffer from depressive moments often find that the “hyper excitement” periods help with their creativity. In my experience, in the down periods I can barely think of a single spark of inspiration and yet, when the super-positive period kicks in, I’m almost awash with enthusiasm for doing / making stuff.

I agree, Gecko, that once you become aware of the feelings that occur at the start of either period, you should try and take action to ‘manage’ each situation accordingly. Of course, that definitely isn’t easy.

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by Green Gecko » Fri Oct 20, 2017 1:33 pm

It's pretty much 100% why I have a 15 day lead time honestly. I might do a job on day 1, day 5, day 14, it doesn't matter. It gives me the flexibility to work when I am able to best, rather than taking a 2 week holiday every 6 months from total burnout, like I have in the past.

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by jawafour » Fri Oct 20, 2017 4:22 pm

GR can be an amazing place sometimes. A fellow GRcadian reached out to me about one or two things*... just off the cuff and going out of his way to offer a bit of help. Although all of us get het up in threads every now and again, it's wonderful to know that there are genuinely decent folk here.

* No, it wasn't for sexy times :lol: .

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