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Qikz wrote:

Knoyleo wrote:Property developers belong in the same circle of hell as landlords.

If TV is anything to go by most property developers are also landlords as well which makes them even worse.

Double hell for them

Herdanos wrote:

rinks wrote:This keeps strawberry floating happening...

What local authority area is (was) the pub in?

South Staffordshire.

Moggy wrote:

Herdanos wrote:

rinks wrote:This keeps strawberry floating happening...

What local authority area is (was) the pub in?

South Staffordshire.

Ha, they don't accept anonymous submissions:

https://www.sstaffs.gov.uk/planning/pla ... ng-control

Looks like their Building Control department is a joint one with other authorities though, and their BC website is thin on the ground.

https://centralbc.org.uk/services/dangerous-structures/

If anyone really wants to have their views on this known (and is happy to give their personal data in order to do so) you could report this as an obvious breach of planning control. Or you could comment:

https://www.sstaffs.gov.uk/planning/dev ... plications

(Comments departments are generally well-attended to, even given recent cuts to authority funding)

I would wager there's no live application to tie the comments to - but that in itself should prompt the authority to investigate, given that a large-scale demolition has taken place!

You don't have to live in the area to comment on planning / building control issues, or report a potential breach. It's overwhelmingly likely that someone will have already done this, but many voices are louder than a few.

The locals are absolutely up in arms about it. It's not going to go unchallenged.

And if the owner somehow wriggles out of having to rebuild it, good luck with anything else they try to construct there.

SEP wrote:Jail them. Seize their entire property portfolio and use it for socially beneficial purposes (social housing, community centers, offices for charitable and voluntary organisations etc).

I'm pretty sure the latter would be far more painful than any other form of payment imaginable.

Jenuall wrote:Yep shocking stuff, these banana splits should be taken for all they've got.

There's loads more of this gooseberry fool going on at a lower, more insidious level as well - so many old pubs getting bought out by developers who have to prove that they don't work as a business anymore so they can apply for a change of purpose for the location so they deliberately mismanage them and run them into the ground so they can do this kind of gooseberry fool.

This and running businesses as a "going concern" and then deducted the losses for the shell of a business from the profits of another subsidiary of the company that owns the company they bought that originally owned the business.

And that but fraud to claim coronavirus support grants.

Oh and putting people in untenable positions after axing 90% of staff so that you can wait for someone to get ill or fail at "their job" (the job of 5 people) to sack them, or accept dreadful redundancy packages that are the best the department/company can afford due to unfortunate circumstances, then blackmail them if they don't take the conditions by threatening worse severance or a poor reference or total lack thereof due to mysterious circumstances, ensuring they won't find employment any time soon because they are buried in bills or can't get a reference.

Loss making businesses are great for millionaires and billionaires (the amount of VC funded "unicorn" businesses is insane), where even if they were to lose money on paper it will represent a tiny, meaningless fraction of their overall wealth, that is itself several and quite possible hundreds, thousands or even million times more than they would ever need to live comfortably for 1000 years.

"Investors" will do everything possible to ensure the liquidity of their assets and lining up of their retirement/cash-out (wealth management) plans, so anything that might involve a modicum of effort in order to find a buyer is a big no-no, like, having a lopsided pub in it.

I loved the Crooked House when we visited, it had such a weird charm, especially with marbles rolling a different way to what youd expect on the bar! Absolutely appalled with what's happened to it.

The owner should be made to rebuild it brick by brick, then made to make a copy of it in the Black Country Living museum.

Staffordshire Police are, unsurprisingly, treating it as arson.

The owners have been named as ATE Farms.

ATE Farms is owned by Carly Taylor, 34, a director of multiple companies. It is registered to the same address as Himley Environmental Ltd, which runs the 15-hectare (37-acre) quarry and landfill site next to the pub.

https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyl ... -house-pub

Mrs Taylor's husband, Adam Taylor, is a shareholder and former director of Himley Environmental Ltd, which runs a landfill site next to the pub. A source told MailOnline that the purchase was 'all about access' and followed disagreements between the firm and Marston's over an access road to the pub which they shared.

https://www.dailyfail.co.uk/news/article-12389385

He couldn't get the access he wanted, so he bought the pub and flattened it. Illegally. A rich bully, who richly deserves prison.

twitter.com/TPGRoberts/status/1690457144057802753

The embedded tweet seems to have cropped off the bottom of the image.

Grumpy David wrote:

twitter.com/TPGRoberts/status/1690457144057802753

The embedded tweet seems to have cropped off the bottom of the image.

I highly recommend people click the photo so that they can see the full glory of Diana playing table tennis against Jade Goody.

Grumpy David wrote:

twitter.com/TPGRoberts/status/1690457144057802753

The embedded tweet seems to have cropped off the bottom of the image.

Oh my god, did Ad7 make that?

SEP wrote:Oh my god, did Ad7 make that?

That's exactly what I said to myself when I first saw the image.

Grumpy David wrote:

SEP wrote:Oh my god, did Ad7 make that?

That's exactly what I said to myself when I first saw the image.

I just think it's nice that Steve Irwin was allowed to take a crocodile into heaven.

SEP wrote:

Grumpy David wrote:

twitter.com/TPGRoberts/status/1690457144057802753

The embedded tweet seems to have cropped off the bottom of the image.

Oh my god, did Ad7 make that?

Grumpy David wrote:

twitter.com/TPGRoberts/status/1690457144057802753

The embedded tweet seems to have cropped off the bottom of the image.

crooked house really is with the angles now xx

Victor Mildew wrote:

SEP wrote:

Grumpy David wrote:

twitter.com/TPGRoberts/status/1690457144057802753

The embedded tweet seems to have cropped off the bottom of the image.

Oh my god, did Ad7 make that?

twitter.com/TPGRoberts/status/1690487838108680192

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-b ... m-66514759

Crooked House owners' links to previous major fire



Hmmmmmm, sure it's just a coincidence

Godzilla wrote::shock:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-b ... m-66514759

Crooked House owners' links to previous major fire



Hmmmmmm, sure it's just a coincidence

Mrs Taylor also currently controls AT Contracting and Plant Hire Ltd, which the BBC understands rented a digger a week before flames engulfed The Crooked House on 5 August.

The same digger used to flatten the pub? Hired a week before the fire? Almost as if they knew they’d need it to quickly destroy the building and the evidence.

Qikz wrote:

Knoyleo wrote:Property developers belong in the same circle of hell as landlords.

If TV is anything to go by most property developers are also landlords as well which makes them even worse.

RichardUK wrote:

Qikz wrote:

Knoyleo wrote:Property developers belong in the same circle of hell as landlords.

If TV is anything to go by most property developers are also landlords as well which makes them even worse.

wow what a surprise