Die Hard 5:A Good Day to Die Hard-February 14,2013 - 1>3>2>4

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PostRe: Die Hard 5: A Good Day to Die Hard - February 14, 2013
by Fuzzy Dunlop » Thu Oct 13, 2011 9:51 pm

How anyone can put 4 before any of the others is beyond me. It didn't even feel like a Die Hard film, just some random action flick.

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PostRe: Die Hard 5: A Good Day to Die Hard - February 14, 2013
by The People's ElboReformat » Thu Oct 13, 2011 10:01 pm

Fuzzy Dunlop wrote:How anyone can put 4 before any of the others is beyond me. It didn't even feel like a Die Hard film, just some random action flick.

Die Hard 4 is just like 3. But swapping Samuel L Jackson with Justin Long. And it works well.

Die Hard 2 is just a poor attempt at copying the original but failing.


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Anyways, tl;dr : 1 > 3 >> 4 >>> 2. Fact! Now lets have no more on the subject. Trapper this.

Edit: Even IMdb knows it's true: 1 - 8.3, 2 - 7.0, 3 - 7.5, 4 - 7.4.

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PostRe: Die Hard 5: A Good Day to Die Hard - February 14, 2013
by Foxhound » Thu Oct 13, 2011 11:08 pm

Fuzzy Dunlop wrote:How anyone can put 4 before any of the others is beyond me. It didn't even feel like a Die Hard film, just some random action flick.

Though I'd agree that 4 doesn't feel like a Die Hard film, on the whole it's a better silly action film (which is what they all are) than 2 is.

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by floydfreak » Thu Oct 13, 2011 11:11 pm

I read somewhere ages ago that Die Hard 2's script is a left over james bond storyline?

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PostRe: Die Hard 5: A Good Day to Die Hard - February 14, 2013
by Moggy » Thu Oct 13, 2011 11:12 pm

floydfreak wrote:I read somewhere that ages ago that Die Hard 2's script is a left over james bond storyline?


Never heard that before, but I have heard that Die Hard 3 was originally a Lethal Weapon film. Which makes sense as it's a white guy teaming up with a black guy and in the end it was all the fault of Jews.

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by The People's ElboReformat » Thu Oct 13, 2011 11:17 pm

floydfreak wrote:I read somewhere that ages ago that Die Hard 2's script is a left over james bond storyline?

Hadn't heard that one before.

I believe the original was originally going to be a sequel to Commando. And Die Hard 3 was going to be a Lethal Weapon sequel. So wouldn't be surprised if 2 was at one point a Bond film.

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by sw26 » Thu Oct 13, 2011 11:34 pm

Die Hard 4 was apparently a generic action flick script too before it took the name and changed the main character to John McClane. Some might argue that's painfully obvious from the way the movie turned out.

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by Gandalf » Thu Oct 13, 2011 11:38 pm

BCFC Fan wrote:Two is terrible. Four is a decent watch.


You're watching too much bottom of the league football............

4 was strawberry floating awful.

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by tomvek » Thu Oct 13, 2011 11:42 pm

Fuzzy Dunlop wrote:How anyone can put 4 before any of the others is beyond me. It didn't even feel like a Die Hard film, just some random action flick.

This is one of the biggest problems. The fact that the script was originally not even a Die Hard film and was later re-written to make it one really shows. Willis doesn't even really come across as his usual John McClane self, they really shouldn't have made it a Die Hard movie and just left it as the generic action movie it was meant to be. Die Hard 4 can just bugger off.

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by bear » Thu Oct 13, 2011 11:42 pm

4 has Justin Long in it so its plainly the worst. The presence of Kevin Smith just copperfastens its place as the runt of the litter.

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by BCFC Fan » Thu Oct 13, 2011 11:44 pm

Gandalf wrote:
BCFC Fan wrote:Two is terrible. Four is a decent watch.


You're watching too much bottom of the league football............

4 was strawberry floating awful.


Two was a cop out though. It would of been the exact same if Gandalf revealed himself as a bad guy in Lord of the Rings with ten minutes of the film to go.

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by The People's ElboReformat » Thu Oct 13, 2011 11:46 pm

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Fuzzy Dunlop wrote:How anyone can put 4 before any of the others is beyond me. It didn't even feel like a Die Hard film, just some random action flick.

This is one of the biggest problems. The fact that the script was originally not even a Die Hard film and was later re-written to make it one really shows. Willis doesn't even really come across as his usual John McClane self, they really shouldn't have made it a Die Hard movie...

The original film was never a Die Hard film. The third film was never origianlly a Die Hard film. So that's a pish reason for hating on Die Hard 4. It's as much a Die Hard film as any of the others. And better than Die Harder.

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by Foxhound » Thu Oct 13, 2011 11:51 pm

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Fuzzy Dunlop wrote:How anyone can put 4 before any of the others is beyond me. It didn't even feel like a Die Hard film, just some random action flick.

This is one of the biggest problems. The fact that the script was originally not even a Die Hard film and was later re-written to make it one really shows. Willis doesn't even really come across as his usual John McClane self, they really shouldn't have made it a Die Hard movie and just left it as the generic action movie it was meant to be. Die Hard 4 can just bugger off.

That's really not the best argument to make considering it's the same for Die Hard (Commando 2) and with a Vengeance (Simon Says/Lethal Weapon)

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by Gandalf » Thu Oct 13, 2011 11:56 pm

BCFC Fan wrote:
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BCFC Fan wrote:Two is terrible. Four is a decent watch.


You're watching too much bottom of the league football............

4 was strawberry floating awful.


Two was a cop out though. It would of been the exact same if Gandalf revealed himself as a bad guy in Lord of the Rings with ten minutes of the film to go.


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by BCFC Fan » Thu Oct 13, 2011 11:59 pm

Gandalf wrote:
BCFC Fan wrote:
Gandalf wrote:
BCFC Fan wrote:Two is terrible. Four is a decent watch.


You're watching too much bottom of the league football............

4 was strawberry floating awful.


Two was a cop out though. It would of been the exact same if Gandalf revealed himself as a bad guy in Lord of the Rings with ten minutes of the film to go.


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by Rubix » Fri Oct 14, 2011 12:19 am

IMO 1 >>>>>> 3 > 2 >>> 4

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by tomvek » Fri Oct 14, 2011 12:24 am

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Fuzzy Dunlop wrote:How anyone can put 4 before any of the others is beyond me. It didn't even feel like a Die Hard film, just some random action flick.

This is one of the biggest problems. The fact that the script was originally not even a Die Hard film and was later re-written to make it one really shows. Willis doesn't even really come across as his usual John McClane self, they really shouldn't have made it a Die Hard movie...

The original film was never a Die Hard film. The third film was never origianlly a Die Hard film. So that's a pish reason for hating on Die Hard 4. It's as much a Die Hard film as any of the others. And better than Die Harder.

It's just one of many reasons, the difference being with DH4 they were unable to rework the script to at least give the film a similar feel and the overall story is pretty uninspiring. It just feels like a shallow husk of a film with a poor plot and the weakest villain out of all the series imo. McClane's character here is also poorly written/incorporated and even more diluted than in previous instalments. Add in Justin Longs character who doesn't have half the chemistry with Willis as other actors did in the previous 3 films and you're just left with a rather unsatisfying experience.

I suppose it all comes down to your own personal taste and how you like your action films, but for me 4.0 is still the weakest in the series.

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PostRe: Die Hard 5: A Good Day to Die Hard - February 14, 2013
by andretmzt » Fri Oct 14, 2011 12:26 am

This made we want to watch some die hard so I just watched no. 3. :wub: No way the order can be anything other than 1>3>2>4 :?

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PostRe: Die Hard 5: A Good Day to Die Hard - February 14, 2013
by Skarjo » Fri Oct 14, 2011 12:26 am

Weaker than 2?

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PostRe: Die Hard 5: A Good Day to Die Hard - February 14, 2013
by smurphy » Fri Oct 14, 2011 12:28 am

Why does everyone hate 2 so much?

It goes 1 > 2 > 3 > 4


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