Lucien wrote:captain red dog wrote:furiosum wrote:In fairness it is pretty stupid to publicly say you would never use them in any circumstances. I suspect many past PMs would never have used them, but publicly saying as much defeats the entire point of them as a deterrent.
I disagree, realistically if he was PM he would serve for 10 years max so he is saying he wouldn't use them during his term, and the decision to renew trident is already out of his hands.
I can't forsee a situation at all where Nukes would even need to be considered. If it didn't happen during the cold war it sure as heck ain't going to happen now.
Even if ISIS managed to detonate a Nuke in London, responding with a nuclear attack of our own would be absolutely ridiculous.
What if ISIS forms its own country and acquires nukes, then uses them? You mention not responding to London being nuked. So you'd allow the whole UK to be destroyed, potentially?
What if you stopped posting?
You would not stop a radical terrorist organisation from using a nuclear device by having one yourself. Repercussion would only strengthen their cause.
Also, the chance of ISIS getting their hands on not only a nuclear warhead, but also a delivery system, a launch site or sub, enough fuel, the scientific know-how to get the thing off the ground and guide it all the way across the Middle East and Europe without it being detected and either shot down or disabled mid-flight are so infinitesimally small that you are really grasping at strawberry floating straws here.
Lucien wrote:Errkal wrote:Lucien wrote:The equation doesn't stay the same when only one side has nukes.
If they have nukes and you don't you for, if you have nukes you both die, same out come for you either way.
If you have nukes you're less likely to be put in a position where you die, though. I'd rather have less chance of dying, knowing others would die if they launch... than a greater chance of dying but knowing my enemy will do great.
For a man who wants to see all life in the universe destroyed, you you'd think you would understand weapons of mass destruction.
If anyone launches a nuke, everyone else does. Everyone launches their nukes at everyone else's nuclear launch facilities and major cities in retaliation. That's it. That's the deterrent system.
Having a nuke does not stop people from launching a nuclear attack. It is just a guaranteed murder vehicle for total annihilation of thousands of people in the blast, and millions in the fallout. Please continue supporting the murder of innocent civilians by the nuclear weapons of a dead country.
And they are not our nukes. They are Americas.