Garth wrote:The only beacon of the Lord's light amidst ye Godless heathens!
Meep wrote:I don't think I could honestly endorse Labour for the next election. I am a moderate who believes in the state as a force for good and that free enterprise is important for a well functioning economy. At the moment the main UK parties only allow you to choose one or the other. You can have the failure of the Conservatives austerity programme or the failure of Labour's new spending programme (I support increased spending, but only provided it is invested in the right areas and not liable to run up debt for no long term gain).
Obviously the Tories deserve to be utterly destroyed next time around. Brexit will damage the UK for decades to come and it's their doing. However, I can't see how Labour are going to help matters unless they wise up on their promises and form a coherent plan to remain in the single market.
Lucien wrote:Corbyn won't anyway because he's my boy
Lucien wrote:Meep wrote:I don't think I could honestly endorse Labour for the next election. I am a moderate who believes in the state as a force for good and that free enterprise is important for a well functioning economy. At the moment the main UK parties only allow you to choose one or the other. You can have the failure of the Conservatives austerity programme or the failure of Labour's new spending programme (I support increased spending, but only provided it is invested in the right areas and not liable to run up debt for no long term gain).
Obviously the Tories deserve to be utterly destroyed next time around. Brexit will damage the UK for decades to come and it's their doing. However, I can't see how Labour are going to help matters unless they wise up on their promises and form a coherent plan to remain in the single market.
If Corbyn adopts a plan that'll keep the UK in the single market he'll lose the next election (assuming the Tories don't do that - which they won't if they want to win). Corbyn won't anyway because he's my boy
Rex Kramer wrote:Lucien wrote:Meep wrote:I don't think I could honestly endorse Labour for the next election. I am a moderate who believes in the state as a force for good and that free enterprise is important for a well functioning economy. At the moment the main UK parties only allow you to choose one or the other. You can have the failure of the Conservatives austerity programme or the failure of Labour's new spending programme (I support increased spending, but only provided it is invested in the right areas and not liable to run up debt for no long term gain).
Obviously the Tories deserve to be utterly destroyed next time around. Brexit will damage the UK for decades to come and it's their doing. However, I can't see how Labour are going to help matters unless they wise up on their promises and form a coherent plan to remain in the single market.
If Corbyn adopts a plan that'll keep the UK in the single market he'll lose the next election (assuming the Tories don't do that - which they won't if they want to win). Corbyn won't anyway because he's my boy
Why is there an assumption that the majority of people in the UK want out of the single market?
Moggy wrote:Republic of Ireland to have a referendum on abortion next year.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-41400836
Assuming it passes (don’t count on it though, recent events don’t fill me with confidence when it comes to referendums!) then they’ll have abortion and gay marriage. Northern Ireland is really going to be the most backwards place in the whole of Western Europe.
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Lucien wrote:Rex Kramer wrote:Lucien wrote:If Corbyn adopts a plan that'll keep the UK in the single market he'll lose the next election (assuming the Tories don't do that - which they won't if they want to win). Corbyn won't anyway because he's my boy
Why is there an assumption that the majority of people in the UK want out of the single market?
If we have access to the single market: we can't control immigration, have to adopt EU laws, pay a fee, and we'd no longer have a say at EU level. So it's not unlike being in the EU (many would say it's worse).
bear wrote:
Unfortunately the writer seems to have missed the fact that there has to be a referendum as that's literally the only way the current law can be changed. Which is a rather important thing to miss.
Tineash wrote:bear wrote:
Unfortunately the writer seems to have missed the fact that there has to be a referendum as that's literally the only way the current law can be changed. Which is a rather important thing to miss.
Can you explain further? Do you mean that it's the only way politically that the Irish parliament will feel able to liberalise abortion laws, or is there something in the Irish constitution?
The Irish Government cannot introduce legislation in Ireland that conflicts with Bunreacht na hEireann (the basic law or Constitution of the country). Sometimes it is necessary therefore, to change or amend the Constitution.
Each time the Government wishes to change or amend the Constitution, it must do it by holding a referendum. A referendum gives the people of Ireland the opportunity to express their opinion and vote for or against the proposed change or amendment.
Tineash wrote:Well then, best to get on with it. But it's going to be a strawberry floating ugly campaign.
Hexx wrote:Have you seen any of the reports from Aus on it's gay marriage referendum?
Hexx wrote:In other news - could that into to Corbyn's speech. They're like a cult
Moggy wrote:Can Labour people be friends with Tories?
