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by Squinty » Tue Nov 14, 2017 7:15 am

I remember May saying that those people would be rehoused within a few weeks. That was a stupid thing to say.

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by Lagamorph » Wed Nov 15, 2017 12:36 am


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by KK » Wed Nov 15, 2017 3:32 pm

YouGov wrote:Boris Johnson’s favourability takes a big hit among Conservative voters; general public view both Corbyn and May unfavourably.

YouGov’s latest favourability tracker survey reveals that Boris Johnson’s net favourability score has declined among the public, and taken a big hit among Conservative voters.

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While Boris had a net favourability score of -17 among the general public in early September, this has since diminished to -29, while his net favourability score among Conservative voters has slumped from +35 to +12.

Currently, 28% of the general public have a favourable view of the Foreign Secretary while 57% hold unfavourable ones. Among 2017 Conservative voters, 52% have a favourable view of Boris while 40% hold unfavourable views.

The latest favourability figures place the Foreign Secretary further behind Theresa May among Conservative voters. In September the Prime Minister held a 21 point net favourability lead over Boris, which has since almost doubled to 38 points with May holding a +50 net favourability score compared to Boris’s +12.

In the battle between the two party leaders for the affection of the general public, Jeremy Corbyn maintains his net favourability lead over Theresa May, although both leaders still hold negative net scores.

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by Garth » Wed Nov 15, 2017 5:54 pm

A Daily Express Journalist Accidentally Revealed How He Was Ordered To "Put The Boot Into Corbyn"
One of the right-wing newspaper's reporters appears to have inadvertently revealed how they are ordered to spin stories.

A Daily Express journalist writing a news story about Britain's national debt was told to "put the boot into Corbyn" and make it clear "that Labour is NOT the solution", in what appears to be an instruction from his editor to ensure the report would be sufficiently biased against the Labour leader.

Unfortunately for the reporter, he then forwarded the instructions directly to the Labour party's press office while asking for a comment.

"I'm sure Labour might very well have something to say on the issue of spiralling debt?" journalist Jon Rogers asked the Labour press office.

"Any chance of getting something attributed to Shadow Chancellor John McDonnell?"

However, he appears to have inadvertently copied and pasted a short summary of the news story below, which included what looked like instructions from an unknown editor on how the story should be written.

The email from the reporter to the press office, passed to BuzzFeed News, reads: "Needs reaction from the Taxpayers Alliance, but let's def also put the boot into Corbyn (who wants to plunge us into even DEEPER debt) so as the readers are very clear that Labour is NOT the solution!"

It's unclear who issued the instructions. The email also includes a link to a file held on a computer belonging to "marshg". Geoff Marsh is the director of digital content at Express Newspapers, the owner of the Daily Express.

Neither Rogers not Marsh responded to multiple attempts to contact them.

While the Daily Express's pro-Brexit, anti-Labour editorial stance is well known, it's unusual to see such instructions from an editor in public.

The story eventually appeared on the newspaper's website on Tuesday under the headline "REVEALED: Britain now spends £49 BILLION paying INTEREST on debts EVERY YEAR", featuring a comment from the TaxPayers' Alliance.

Labour, perhaps unsurprisingly, did not provide a comment to the Express, and neither Corbyn nor the party was mentioned in the article itself.

Despite this, the piece was topped with an embedded video entitled "UK pays more in debt interest than on NHS thanks to Labour", while a large photo of Jeremy Corbyn appeared further down for unknown reasons.

https://www.buzzfeed.com/amphtml/jimwat ... how-he-was

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by Lagamorph » Wed Nov 15, 2017 6:29 pm

Garth wrote:
A Daily Express Journalist Accidentally Revealed How He Was Ordered To "Put The Boot Into Corbyn"
One of the right-wing newspaper's reporters appears to have inadvertently revealed how they are ordered to spin stories.

A Daily Express journalist writing a news story about Britain's national debt was told to "put the boot into Corbyn" and make it clear "that Labour is NOT the solution", in what appears to be an instruction from his editor to ensure the report would be sufficiently biased against the Labour leader.

Unfortunately for the reporter, he then forwarded the instructions directly to the Labour party's press office while asking for a comment.

"I'm sure Labour might very well have something to say on the issue of spiralling debt?" journalist Jon Rogers asked the Labour press office.

"Any chance of getting something attributed to Shadow Chancellor John McDonnell?"

However, he appears to have inadvertently copied and pasted a short summary of the news story below, which included what looked like instructions from an unknown editor on how the story should be written.

The email from the reporter to the press office, passed to BuzzFeed News, reads: "Needs reaction from the Taxpayers Alliance, but let's def also put the boot into Corbyn (who wants to plunge us into even DEEPER debt) so as the readers are very clear that Labour is NOT the solution!"

It's unclear who issued the instructions. The email also includes a link to a file held on a computer belonging to "marshg". Geoff Marsh is the director of digital content at Express Newspapers, the owner of the Daily Express.

Neither Rogers not Marsh responded to multiple attempts to contact them.

While the Daily Express's pro-Brexit, anti-Labour editorial stance is well known, it's unusual to see such instructions from an editor in public.

The story eventually appeared on the newspaper's website on Tuesday under the headline "REVEALED: Britain now spends £49 BILLION paying INTEREST on debts EVERY YEAR", featuring a comment from the TaxPayers' Alliance.

Labour, perhaps unsurprisingly, did not provide a comment to the Express, and neither Corbyn nor the party was mentioned in the article itself.

Despite this, the piece was topped with an embedded video entitled "UK pays more in debt interest than on NHS thanks to Labour", while a large photo of Jeremy Corbyn appeared further down for unknown reasons.

https://www.buzzfeed.com/amphtml/jimwat ... how-he-was


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PostRe: The Politics Thread 3.0
by Meep » Wed Nov 15, 2017 7:27 pm

I have to laugh at the tory rebels complaining about the Telegraph headline. I doubt they were concerned about so much of the UK media being tory propaganda before they decided to oppose their own party. Labour have to put up with that gooseberry fool year round but after one headline they are crying foul. :lol: They need to man up. This is what opposing a tory government feels like, get used to it.

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by Moggy » Wed Nov 15, 2017 7:30 pm

Meep wrote:I have to laugh at the tory rebels complaining about the Telegraph headline. I doubt they were concerned about so much of the UK media being tory propaganda before they decided to oppose their own party. Labour have to put up with that gooseberry fool year round but after one headline they are crying foul. :lol: They need to man up. This is what opposing a tory government feels like, get used to it.


There’s a bit of a difference between normal political propaganda and headlines of “crush the saboteurs”, “enemies of the people” and “the Brexit mutineers”.

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by Lagamorph » Wed Nov 15, 2017 8:00 pm

Moggy wrote:
Meep wrote:I have to laugh at the tory rebels complaining about the Telegraph headline. I doubt they were concerned about so much of the UK media being tory propaganda before they decided to oppose their own party. Labour have to put up with that gooseberry fool year round but after one headline they are crying foul. :lol: They need to man up. This is what opposing a tory government feels like, get used to it.


There’s a bit of a difference between normal political propaganda and headlines of “crush the saboteurs”, “enemies of the people” and “the Brexit mutineers”.

Yeah headlines like this are legitimately dangerous and could very well lead to some individuals taking violent action against these MPs, but the Telegraph will deny any and all responsibility if that happens.

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by Moggy » Wed Nov 15, 2017 8:21 pm

Lagamorph wrote:
Moggy wrote:
Meep wrote:I have to laugh at the tory rebels complaining about the Telegraph headline. I doubt they were concerned about so much of the UK media being tory propaganda before they decided to oppose their own party. Labour have to put up with that gooseberry fool year round but after one headline they are crying foul. :lol: They need to man up. This is what opposing a tory government feels like, get used to it.


There’s a bit of a difference between normal political propaganda and headlines of “crush the saboteurs”, “enemies of the people” and “the Brexit mutineers”.

Yeah headlines like this are legitimately dangerous and could very well lead to some individuals taking violent action against these MPs, but the Telegraph will deny any and all responsibility if that happens.


Anna Soubry has already received threats following the headline.

Still, just get used to it eh! It’s not like any MPs have been shot since the referendum campaign started.....

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PostRe: The Politics Thread 3.0
by KK » Fri Nov 17, 2017 8:55 pm

Jeremy Hunt had a bad week on Twitter at the hands of the Royle Family...

Health Secretary Jeremy Hunt has been brutally taken down by Ralf Little in 42 tweets - after he challenged the actor to a 'double-dare'.

Little accused Hunt of lying on Twitter about claims he masterminded the 'biggest expansion of mental health provision in Europe' on the BBC's Andrew Marr Show.

The 37-year-old actor, famous for his appearance in the Royle Family, then sent a public tweet to the Tory: 'If I'm wrong, sue me. I double dare you.' It sparked a week-long war of words.

Hunt, MP for South West Surrey, eventually hit back at the accusation and provided a range of statistics backing his claim up to dismiss Little's scathing remark - and double-dared the actor to retaliate.

Little then responded after carefully fact-checking Hunt's disputed figures because he is 'never one to resist a challenge'.

In a series of 42 tweets, he exposed the truth behind Hunt's figures - and mocked his ability to use unverified statistics to his advantage.

He jokingly wrote under the hashtag 'quadrupleOscarwinner': 'I don't blame you - if no-one kept a record of Oscar winners, I'd be telling everyone I've got four.'

Thousands of Twitter users, including psychologists and mental healthcare workers, praised Little's 'destructive' takedown and issued a range of memes mocking Hunt.

http://www.dailyfail.co.uk/health/artic ... le-5092367


Hopefully someone noticed that "wast" typo before it went to the printer.

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PostRe: The Politics Thread 3.0
by Squinty » Sat Nov 18, 2017 8:05 am

I read that exchange a few days ago. I don't think Hunt responded.

This is what we need more of. So much fake information and cherry picked facts being shoved out by our politicians.

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PostRe: The Politics Thread 3.0
by Memento Mori » Sat Nov 18, 2017 3:44 pm

According to The Times today, May is considering making Jeremy Hunt chancellor.

:lol: :dread:

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PostRe: The Politics Thread 3.0
by KK » Sat Nov 18, 2017 4:01 pm

Saw this in today's Daily Mail, thought it was amusing.

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PostRe: The Politics Thread 3.0
by Hyperion » Sat Nov 18, 2017 4:28 pm

:dread:

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PostRe: The Politics Thread 3.0
by Moggy » Sat Nov 18, 2017 4:33 pm

KK wrote:Saw this in today's Daily Mail, thought it was amusing.

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That must be a misprint as it’s 9 years after the time the DM readers would love to go back to. After all the Windrush arrived in 1948...

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PostRe: The Politics Thread 3.0
by Squinty » Sat Nov 18, 2017 6:04 pm

Was 1957 actually any good? I mean, really?

A quick search says that there was a massive flu pandemic in Asia that killed 150,000 folks. But on the plus side, the frisbee was invented :wub:

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PostRe: The Politics Thread 3.0
by Dual » Sat Nov 18, 2017 6:50 pm

Is there a way of reading that without buying a copy?

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PostRe: The Politics Thread 3.0
by lex-man » Sat Nov 18, 2017 8:42 pm

Squinty wrote:Was 1957 actually any good? I mean, really?

A quick search says that there was a massive flu pandemic in Asia that killed 150,000 folks. But on the plus side, the frisbee was invented :wub:


I looked through the list of stuff that happened in the UK in 57 and it seemed pretty quiet.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1957_in_t ... ed_Kingdom

I think the article is at this link:

http://www.dailyfail.co.uk/news/article ... -year.html

EDIT: the comments are insane.

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PostRe: The Politics Thread 3.0
by Meep » Sat Nov 18, 2017 10:03 pm

It looks like any ounce of reality is immediately down voted. :lol: At least most of these people will be dead soon. It's just shame they managed to do so much last damaging to the rest of us before they went.

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PostRe: The Politics Thread 3.0
by Return_of_the_STAR » Sat Nov 18, 2017 11:32 pm

People were happier, even though they were struck down by illnesses such as polio


Not a comment but a quote from the article, accompanied by a photo of a women who has polio but has a massive smile on her face :lol:

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