The Politics Thread 3.0

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by Denster » Thu Sep 14, 2017 12:01 am

Everyone I like does say it. I'm a Tory who lives in Manchester and works for the NHS.

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by Moggy » Thu Sep 14, 2017 6:42 am

Lagamorph wrote:The official cost to the taxpayer of the Snap Election has been revealed as over £140million

More than £98m was spent on returning officers' fees and £42.5m on delivering election literature.


Worth every penny just for the laugh I had when the exit poll was announced. :lol:

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by satriales » Thu Sep 14, 2017 6:48 am

Lagamorph wrote:The official cost to the taxpayer of the Snap Election has been revealed as over £140million

More than £98m was spent on returning officers' fees and £42.5m on delivering election literature.

Those figures seen to be off by about £1B.

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by DML » Thu Sep 14, 2017 7:23 am

Denster wrote:Everyone I like does say it. I'm a Tory who lives in Manchester and works for the NHS.


...but the party you like is in power...so how is it relevant?

This isn't that hard to grasp Denny!

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by Denster » Thu Sep 14, 2017 7:57 am

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Denster wrote:Everyone I like does say it. I'm a Tory who lives in Manchester and works for the NHS.


...but the party you like is in power...so how is it relevant?

This isn't that hard to grasp Denny!

Sorry mate I was just being jocular. Yes it would be tiresome if that happened.

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PostRe: The Politics Thread 3.0
by Moggy » Thu Sep 14, 2017 9:56 am

Buses, planes....does Boris ever tell the truth when it comes to methods of transport?


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PostRe: The Politics Thread 3.0
by Dual » Thu Sep 14, 2017 11:49 am

What was it laden with?

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by BID0 » Thu Sep 14, 2017 11:51 am

collanisation

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by Return_of_the_STAR » Thu Sep 14, 2017 12:44 pm

I don't get it. What was on the plane. There is clearly stuff on it. Boris said it was laden with aid, aid isn't just food and water. There's a lot more things that are needed than just food or water. If C4 are saying that he's lying or just mistaken then they really should explain otherwise it's as bad as fake news.

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by BID0 » Thu Sep 14, 2017 12:56 pm

Return_of_the_STAR wrote:I don't get it. What was on the plane. There is clearly stuff on it. Boris said it was laden with aid, aid isn't just food and water. There's a lot more things that are needed than just food or water. If C4 are saying that he's lying or just mistaken then they really should explain otherwise it's as bad as fake news.

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by Moggy » Thu Sep 14, 2017 12:59 pm

Return_of_the_STAR wrote:I don't get it. What was on the plane. There is clearly stuff on it. Boris said it was laden with aid, aid isn't just food and water. There's a lot more things that are needed than just food or water. If C4 are saying that he's lying or just mistaken then they really should explain otherwise it's as bad as fake news.



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by KK » Thu Sep 14, 2017 1:05 pm

Classic politician. His statement is factually correct...just not in regards to the question originally posed to him. It's that ritual of answering a question that was never put to you in the first place or wording it in such a way it can be interpreted multiple ways.

It's that routine of:

Is there food aid on that plane?
There is aid on that plane
Is there food and drink on that plane?
That plane...Bob...Jim...whatever the strawberry float your name is...is LADEN with aids...I mean aid.

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by Return_of_the_STAR » Thu Sep 14, 2017 1:11 pm

Moggy wrote:
Return_of_the_STAR wrote:I don't get it. What was on the plane. There is clearly stuff on it. Boris said it was laden with aid, aid isn't just food and water. There's a lot more things that are needed than just food or water. If C4 are saying that he's lying or just mistaken then they really should explain otherwise it's as bad as fake news.




Ah right, that makes more sense now.

As KK said, politicians just can't help but lie, it's not always intentional. They have in their head a particular line that they are going to spout and then they struggle to deviate from it.

All he had to say was that this plane only contained troops and their equipment, and that other aid would follow (assuming other aid is following).

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by andretmzt » Thu Sep 14, 2017 1:35 pm

Jacob Rees-Mogg: increased use of food banks is 'rather uplifting'

Tory grassroots favourite says rise is due to previous Labour government not telling people that food banks existed.
Jacob Rees-Mogg also insisted he had no ambitions to succeed Theresa May during the radio interview.

Thursday 14 September 2017 12.21 BST
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Jacob Rees-Mogg has described the increased prevalence of food banks as a “rather uplifting” show of charity, arguing the only reason for the rise in their use is that the former Labour government did not tell people they existed.

“I think there is good within food banks and the real reason for the rise in numbers is that people know that they’re there, and Labour deliberately wouldn’t tell them,” the Conservative backbencher told LBC radio.

The North East Somerset MP, recently named as the Tory grassroots’ favourite to succeed Theresa May, said last week he opposed same-sex marriage and was against all abortion, even in cases of rape.

Asked on LBC about moves to make the morning-after pill more easily available to women, Rees-Mogg, a Catholic and father of six, described this as “a great sadness”.

Challenged by a caller about the increased use of food banks – the Trussell Trust, Britain’s biggest food bank network, said it handed out record amounts of supplies last year, in part due to increased benefit delays – Rees-Mogg argued they fulfilled a vital function.

“I don’t think the state can do everything,” he said. “It tries to provide a base of welfare that should allow people to make ends meet during the course of the week, but on some occasions that will not work.

“And to have charitable support given by people voluntarily to support their fellow citizens, I think is rather uplifting and shows what a good, compassionate country we are.”

Rees-Mogg said the reason more people were using food banks was a Conservative reversal of a previous Labour policy to stop people knowing they existed.

“Food banks pre-date the Conservative government and crucially, the change that took place was that the Conservative government allowed Jobcentre Plus to tell people that food banks existed,” he said.

“And the former Labour government would not tell them – and that was a policy decision to stop people knowing that there was help available.”

Labour said they rejected this argument. Ian Lavery, a Labour MP and the party’s national campaign coordinator, said: “The real reason people are going to food banks in record numbers is because the Tories have slashed public sector jobs and living standards over the last seven years, plunging more families into poverty and homelessness.

“This kind of comment shows Jacob Rees-Mogg really is the dictionary definition of an out-of-touch Tory.”

During the phone-in, Rees-Mogg also insisted he had no leadership ambitions.

“I have no wish to become leader of the Conservative party. I’m fully supporting Mrs May,” he said. “I am completely backing Mrs May and no one serious thinks that I am a credible candidate.”

Asked what cabinet job he would most like, Rees-Mogg said: “That’s not going to happen.”

He said May had been asked in a radio interview if she might place him in the cabinet, and “she laughed for the longest amount of time she has laughed since the general election”.

He added: “I was delighted to bring some happiness and joy to our distinguished prime minister, but that’s how seriously she takes it.”


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by Garth » Thu Sep 14, 2017 1:37 pm

andretmzt wrote:What a banana split.

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PostRe: The Politics Thread 3.0
by Dual » Thu Sep 14, 2017 1:38 pm

“no one serious thinks that I am a credible candidate.”

:lol:

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PostRe: The Politics Thread 3.0
by Moggy » Thu Sep 14, 2017 1:41 pm

Dual wrote:“no one serious thinks that I am a credible candidate.”

:lol:


He's not even a credible human being. :lol:

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PostRe: The Politics Thread 3.0
by Rocsteady » Thu Sep 14, 2017 7:02 pm

Lagamorph wrote:The official cost to the taxpayer of the Snap Election has been revealed as over £140million

More than £98m was spent on returning officers' fees and £42.5m on delivering election literature.

Pfft, that's only a fraction of the NHS' extra money per week now we're free of the EU's shackles.

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by Moggy » Thu Sep 14, 2017 7:23 pm

Rocsteady wrote:
Lagamorph wrote:The official cost to the taxpayer of the Snap Election has been revealed as over £140million

More than £98m was spent on returning officers' fees and £42.5m on delivering election literature.

Pfft, that's only a fraction of the NHS' extra money per week now we're free of the EU's shackles.


That's true. Soon we'll be able to have an election every week and still have £210million left over to spend on some referendums. :datass:

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PostRe: The Politics Thread 3.0
by Squinty » Thu Sep 14, 2017 9:56 pm

Rees Mogg is strawberry floating hilarious. What a delusional joker :dread:


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