The Politics Thread 3.0

[Moggy]

https://www.ft.com/content/36f47240-7c0e-11e6-ae24-f193b105145e#comments

It's behind a paywall so sorry, but it basically says that the current UK military couldn't fight it's way out of a bag against a conventional foe.

My favourite line being that it wouldn't be necessary to take out the joint strike fighters protecting Britain just murder in their beds the 40 people who know how to fly them.

Whether our inability to defend ourselves from a conventional foe actually matters is another question, as I hope at least on a state vs state basis we've moved beyond that in Europe (and the world).

Aside from the fact that we've recently voted out of being part of one of the largest military forces in the world and they'll be setting up camp about 20 odd miles off our southern border...

Yeah but they need us more than we need them. That's why we have "Great" in our name whereas they have a place with "mania" in theirs.

[Alvin Flummux]

https://www.ft.com/content/36f47240-7c0e-11e6-ae24-f193b105145e#comments

It's behind a paywall so sorry, but it basically says that the current UK military couldn't fight it's way out of a bag against a conventional foe.

My favourite line being that it wouldn't be necessary to take out the joint strike fighters protecting Britain just murder in their beds the 40 people who know how to fly them.

Whether our inability to defend ourselves from a conventional foe actually matters is another question, as I hope at least on a state vs state basis we've moved beyond that in Europe (and the world).

Aside from the fact that we've recently voted out of being part of one of the largest military forces in the world and they'll be setting up camp about 20 odd miles off our southern border...

Yeah but they need us more than we need them. That's why we have "Great" in our name whereas they have a place with "mania" in theirs.

Why can't we all just work together?

[Moggy]

https://www.ft.com/content/36f47240-7c0e-11e6-ae24-f193b105145e#comments

It's behind a paywall so sorry, but it basically says that the current UK military couldn't fight it's way out of a bag against a conventional foe.

My favourite line being that it wouldn't be necessary to take out the joint strike fighters protecting Britain just murder in their beds the 40 people who know how to fly them.

Whether our inability to defend ourselves from a conventional foe actually matters is another question, as I hope at least on a state vs state basis we've moved beyond that in Europe (and the world).

Aside from the fact that we've recently voted out of being part of one of the largest military forces in the world and they'll be setting up camp about 20 odd miles off our southern border...

Yeah but they need us more than we need them. That's why we have "Great" in our name whereas they have a place with "mania" in theirs.

Why can't we all just work together?

That sounds like pinko commie talk to me.

[Tineash]

UKIP's new leader, Diane James, is another Putin fan.

Ukip's new leader says she counts Vladimir Putin as a political hero

The new Ukip leader had revealed that she counts Vladimir Putin, Margaret Thatcher and Winston Churchill as her political heroes.

Diane James, who was elected to replace Nigel Farage last week, was asked on BBC1’s Sunday Politics who “other than Vladimir Putin” were her political heroes.

After naming Thatcher and Churchill, James was asked to confirm that she also considered the Russian president among her top three, and she responded that she did.

The line of questioning followed comments she made in a 2015 radio interview when she was Ukip’s foreign affairs spokesperson.

During the LBC interview, she described Putin as a strong leader who stands up for Russia. “I admire him from the point of view that he’s standing up for his country. He is very nationalist,” she said.

Labour’s Harriet Harman, who was also in the radio studio, interjected: “You could say that about Idi Amin.”

What the strawberry floating christ is wrong with these knuckle-draggers, and why don't more people care? Why doesn't anyone give a strawberry float?

[captain red dog]

I work in the defence industry and that report is bollocks. Britain easily has the best prepared and equipped military in Europe. It's great to knock UK Plc, we get a lot wrong, but the military is second to er.... one.

https://ukdefencejournal.org.uk/study-f ... the-world/

You have to be very careful when it comes to military figures posturing for better investment.

[Moggy]

UKIP's new leader, Diane James, is another Putin fan.

Ukip's new leader says she counts Vladimir Putin as a political hero

The new Ukip leader had revealed that she counts Vladimir Putin, Margaret Thatcher and Winston Churchill as her political heroes.

Diane James, who was elected to replace Nigel Farage last week, was asked on BBC1’s Sunday Politics who “other than Vladimir Putin” were her political heroes.

After naming Thatcher and Churchill, James was asked to confirm that she also considered the Russian president among her top three, and she responded that she did.

The line of questioning followed comments she made in a 2015 radio interview when she was Ukip’s foreign affairs spokesperson.

During the LBC interview, she described Putin as a strong leader who stands up for Russia. “I admire him from the point of view that he’s standing up for his country. He is very nationalist,” she said.

Labour’s Harriet Harman, who was also in the radio studio, interjected: “You could say that about Idi Amin.”

What the strawberry floating christ is wrong with these knuckle-draggers, and why don't more people care? Why doesn't anyone give a strawberry float?

Because the world is going strawberry floating mental at the moment.

[Memento Mori]

The right-wing seem to love dictatorial strongmen.

[Saint of Killers]

UKIP's new leader, Diane James, is another Putin fan.

Ukip's new leader says she counts Vladimir Putin as a political hero

The new Ukip leader had revealed that she counts Vladimir Putin, Margaret Thatcher and Winston Churchill as her political heroes.

Diane James, who was elected to replace Nigel Farage last week, was asked on BBC1’s Sunday Politics who “other than Vladimir Putin” were her political heroes.

After naming Thatcher and Churchill, James was asked to confirm that she also considered the Russian president among her top three, and she responded that she did.

The line of questioning followed comments she made in a 2015 radio interview when she was Ukip’s foreign affairs spokesperson.

During the LBC interview, she described Putin as a strong leader who stands up for Russia. “I admire him from the point of view that he’s standing up for his country. He is very nationalist,” she said.

Labour’s Harriet Harman, who was also in the radio studio, interjected: “You could say that about Idi Amin.”

What the strawberry floating christ is wrong with these knuckle-draggers, and why don't more people care? Why doesn't anyone give a strawberry float?

Time to open UKIP books to see where some of their donations are coming from...

[Moggy]

UKIP's new leader, Diane James, is another Putin fan.

Ukip's new leader says she counts Vladimir Putin as a political hero

The new Ukip leader had revealed that she counts Vladimir Putin, Margaret Thatcher and Winston Churchill as her political heroes.

Diane James, who was elected to replace Nigel Farage last week, was asked on BBC1’s Sunday Politics who “other than Vladimir Putin” were her political heroes.

After naming Thatcher and Churchill, James was asked to confirm that she also considered the Russian president among her top three, and she responded that she did.

The line of questioning followed comments she made in a 2015 radio interview when she was Ukip’s foreign affairs spokesperson.

During the LBC interview, she described Putin as a strong leader who stands up for Russia. “I admire him from the point of view that he’s standing up for his country. He is very nationalist,” she said.

Labour’s Harriet Harman, who was also in the radio studio, interjected: “You could say that about Idi Amin.”

What the strawberry floating christ is wrong with these knuckle-draggers, and why don't more people care? Why doesn't anyone give a strawberry float?

Time to open UKIP books to see where some their donations are coming from...

It all seems to come from a "Mr P Vutin" who lives in "definitelynotrussiahonest".

[Saint of Killers]

Theresa May accused of trying to alter immigration report before Brexit vote

Emails show Lib Dems claimed prime minister was determined to paint a negative picture of Britain’s relationship with Europe

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... rexit-vote

[Squinty]

That fits in with that recent books narrative about Cameron being pissed off with her during the run up to the vote.

She's come out of this very well. I think it was a very clever and calculated move. This vote has been a really interestin to watch, in terms of politicians having longer games that they are playing.

[KK]

Apple moving their London HQ to Battersea dogs home:

Apple has unveiled plans to create its London headquarters at Battersea Power Station, one of the capital's most recognisable landmarks.



The technology giant is going to become the largest office tenant at the new development when its 1,400 staff move over in 2021.

The technology giant will occupy about 40% of the Grade II listed development, with 1,400 staff to be relocated to the complex in 2021.

In a statement, Apple said it was a "great opportunity to have its entire team working and collaborating in one location while supporting the renovation of a neighbourhood rich with history".

Battersea Power Station, a former electricity generator, has stood unoccupied for decades on the banks of the River Thames - with its four towering chimneys forming a prominent part of the city's skyline.



It has undergone a multibillion-pound restoration in recent years and Rob Tincknell, the chief executive of the development company behind the project, said he was "delighted" by Apple's decision.

Mr Tincknell added: "It is testament to our fantastic building and the wider generation of the 42-acre site which offers a carefully curated mix of homes, businesses and leisure amidst extraordinary open spaces and new transport links.

"It has always been our clear objective to create one of London's most thriving new communities and this commitment from Apple will undoubtedly help us achieve our goal."

Politicians have also praised Apple's move, with London mayor Sadiq Khan saying the relocation will help generate new jobs and economic prosperity for Londoners.

Chancellor Philip Hammond added: "It's another vote of confidence in the UK economy, sending a clear signal that companies are continuing to invest in Britain's future, and that we are one of the most attractive investment destinations for the global technology industry."

http://news.sky.com/story/apple-to-base ... n-10596987

I think Sadiq Khan knows full well Joe Blogs are not living in the vicinity of this building, let alone in it. This "thriving new community" he/they speak of will be solely consisting of the extremely well off. In many ways he's advocating 'trickle down economics' again.

In terms of a headline grabbing lankmark however it's another success.

[Knoyleo]

Every time there's a project like that, it's the same thing. "This huge number of offices, and expensive flats, will create thousands of jobs in the local area."

Sadly, those jobs will mostly be for coffee shop baristas, and other low paid service people, who won't be able to afford to live locally, because the new development has pushed all the local prices and rents up.

[Lex-Man]

I hope they actually make it, this time. It's such a nice building that it really needs to be renovated.

[Knoyleo]

Oh, I love the building, and it definitely needs caring for, but I think it's a load of puff about the economic effects of it being anything other than to inflate local living costs and drive poorer people out of Battersea, whilst only really creating low paid jobs, as the offices will be filled, as in this case, by a relocating business.

[TigaSefi]

I literally live across from Battersea Power Station!!!

[KK]

I literally live across from Battersea Power Station!!!

[Lex-Man]

Oh, I love the building, and it definitely needs caring for, but I think it's a load of puff about the economic effects of it being anything other than to inflate local living costs and drive poorer people out of Battersea, whilst only really creating low paid jobs, as the offices will be filled, as in this case, by a relocating business.

Yeah, you're probably right.

[Return_of_the_STAR]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-37508968

Wealth of people in their 30s has 'halved in a decade

Very interesting article. As someone born in 1982 I certainly agree with it. I haven't had a pay rise above 1% for around 6 yrs now. My pension is also forecast to be less than those retiring now who are doing the same job.

[Squinty]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-37508968

Wealth of people in their 30s has 'halved in a decade

Very interesting article. As someone born in 1982 I certainly agree with it. I haven't had a pay rise above 1% for around 6 yrs now. My pension is also forecast to be less than those retiring now who are doing the same job.

New pension scheme I'm on through is nowhere near as generous. Haven't had a payrise in the last few years.