The Politics Thread 3.0

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by Preezy » Fri Dec 01, 2017 4:13 pm

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Probably cheaper just to buy a razor.

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by Tineash » Fri Dec 01, 2017 4:17 pm

GQ politician of the year
2008 Boris Johnson
2009 Osborne
2010 Cameron
2011 Osborne
2012 Boris Johnson
2013 Boris Johnson
2014 Not awarded, but they made Tony Blair "Philanthropist of the Year", so that's nice
2015 Osborne

Oops, Cameron's gone & and there's a stink of failure..

2016 Sadiq Khan
2017 Sadiq Khan

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by captain red dog » Fri Dec 01, 2017 7:08 pm

strawberry float me, that's a list of horrors! :dread:

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by Hyperion » Fri Dec 01, 2017 8:53 pm

What had Gideon done in any of those years?

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by KK » Fri Dec 01, 2017 10:33 pm


What a wind-up merchant this guy is. His other tweets are all along the same lines.

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by KK » Fri Dec 01, 2017 10:45 pm

Guardian wrote:Jacob Rees-Mogg met Steve Bannon to discuss US-UK politics

Exclusive Tory grassroots favourite met ex-Trump adviser this week to discuss how conservative movements can win in Britain

Jacob Rees-Mogg had a private meeting with former Donald Trump adviser Steve Bannon in London on Thursday to talk about how conservative movements can win in the US and UK, the Guardian has learned.

Rees-Mogg, a favourite among Conservative members to be the next party leader, spent more than an hour at the meeting in a Mayfair hotel with Bannon, who was at one point seen as Trump’s most influential adviser.

The American also met Nigel Farage, the former Ukip leader, and another Conservative MP during a short trip to the UK.

The meetings took place on the day of the diplomatic spat between Trump and Theresa May, after the US president retweeted anti-Muslim material from the far-right fringe group Britain First.

Rees-Mogg confirmed the encounter, saying Bannon was “an interesting man to have met” and they talked about US and UK politics. Farage also confirmed he had met Bannon, who is a friend.

Bannon, who describes himself as a populist and economic nationalist, was forced out of the White House in August. He then rejoined the rightwing news website Breitbart as executive chairman, but he remains in close contact with Trump.

The meetings were brokered by Raheem Kassam, the Breitbart London editor and former chief of staff to Farage. Kassam defended Trump over the retweets on Thursday and criticised Downing Street for “flushing the UK’s relationship with the US down the toilet to virtue-signal over a couple of tweets”.

Asked about the meetings, Kassam said: “Brexit and the election of President Trump were inextricably linked, so the discussions focused on how we move forward with winning for the conservative movements on both sides of the pond, how you build movements, on the ground and digitally, and what Steve’s brand of economic nationalism – which puts the interests of ordinary people first – can do in the US and United Kingdom.”

Rees-Mogg’s “Moggmentum” followers have attracted comparisons with the US Tea Party as they champion rightwing ideas, grassroots activism and shaking up the conservative establishment.

The Tory MP has previously expressed support for Trump but backtracked on that before the presidential election. In mid-September last year, he said that he would “almost certainly vote for Trump if I was American”.

However, a month later, Rees-Mogg said he felt he could not vote for either candidate. “I obviously do not have a vote and believe it is important for the UK to be polite about all US presidential candidates as it is the most important foreign relationship for us,” he said at the time. “However, I could not personally vote for either candidate so would have to abstain.”

Since the election, Rees-Mogg has developed a substantial following among Tory activists looking for their own populist leader to take on Labour’s Jeremy Corbyn.

He received a hero’s welcome among the grassroots at the Conservative party conference, but he has repeatedly dodged questions about running for Tory leader in the future.

He has also attracted opposition from protesters over his rightwing views on issues such as abortion and foreign aid.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... -in-london

Doesn't necessarily mean anything, but he shouldn't really be meeting him in the first place. It looks terrible.


Great juxtaposition here with "intimate" and "candid" photos of Meghan and PC Porn story.

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by Garth » Sat Dec 02, 2017 12:16 am

Did Farage, Bannon and Rees-Mogg all meet in a secret underground volcano lair? We don't need any more fear and hate spread in the UK, thanks very much.

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by Squinty » Sat Dec 02, 2017 5:28 pm



Err, I might be nit picking, but that thing he said about computer access is kinda at odds with any office I've ever worked in.

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by Meep » Sat Dec 02, 2017 5:58 pm

I suppose it is possible someone used the computer using another account. No one has made it clear to me whether these files were exclusively associated with Green's user name.

As for giving other people access to the same account, I have seen that happening where I work, but only in cases where new employees had not had accounts set up for them yet and had to 'borrow' the logins of other staff (really bad practice, but not something I had a say over). Also, there's nothing stopping shared access to a specific mail account separately if you needed that.

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by captain red dog » Sat Dec 02, 2017 6:48 pm

We are looking at a cyber security level from 9 years ago implemented by elderly IT illiterate MPs. It's a little unlikely, but not inconceivable that it wasn't him. Given the images were apparently legal, I think that particular incident needs no further action as I don't see how you could prove he did view those images, and did so whilst "on the clock".

Its a classic case of the media losing focus and going after an irrelevant issue when far more serious allegations are labelled against him. Who gives a strawberry float whether he looks at porn when there are more serious harassment allegations going around?

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by lex-man » Sat Dec 02, 2017 7:09 pm

Meep wrote:I suppose it is possible someone used the computer using another account. No one has made it clear to me whether these files were exclusively associated with Green's user name.

As for giving other people access to the same account, I have seen that happening where I work, but only in cases where new employees had not had accounts set up for them yet and had to 'borrow' the logins of other staff (really bad practice, but not something I had a say over). Also, there's nothing stopping shared access to a specific mail account separately if you needed that.


Where I've worked some sectaries have been given access to their bosses email accounts. Using MS exchange server you can do it without having to give them direct access to the bosses account. Anybody giving passwords to other staff members would be reprimanded if the IT department found out.

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by lex-man » Sat Dec 02, 2017 7:10 pm

captain red dog wrote:We are looking at a cyber security level from 9 years ago implemented by elderly IT illiterate MPs. It's a little unlikely, but not inconceivable that it wasn't him. Given the images were apparently legal, I think that particular incident needs no further action as I don't see how you could prove he did view those images, and did so whilst "on the clock".

Its a classic case of the media losing focus and going after an irrelevant issue when far more serious allegations are labelled against him. Who gives a strawberry float whether he looks at porn when there are more serious harassment allegations going around?


I don't know, looking at porn on work time on a work machine should really be a fire-able offence. If I did that at work I would except to be fired.

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by satriales » Sat Dec 02, 2017 7:33 pm

At our work if you didn't get fired for looking at porn then you'd definitely get fired for lying about it.

If what the police say about it being his account and that he also sent emails etc then there's no way he can pass the blame to someone else.

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by andretmzt » Sat Dec 02, 2017 9:33 pm

captain red dog wrote:We are looking at a cyber security level from 9 years ago implemented by elderly IT illiterate MPs. It's a little unlikely, but not inconceivable that it wasn't him. Given the images were apparently legal, I think that particular incident needs no further action as I don't see how you could prove he did view those images, and did so whilst "on the clock".

Its a classic case of the media losing focus and going after an irrelevant issue when far more serious allegations are labelled against him. Who gives a strawberry float whether he looks at porn when there are more serious harassment allegations going around?


Right so looking at pornography on your work PC is a sackable offence in the Civil Service, regardless of whether you are working or not. Allowing someone else access to your PC with a basic security clearance is a breach of Civil Service cyber security rules. Normally you'd just get a slap on the wrist for doing it one or two times but repeatedly doing it gets you the sack. I also don't think it is looked upon fondly under the Official Secrets Act, giving someone who potentially might not have the security clearance, access to your PC. This is all assuming it is only a basic security clearance. If it is a higher clearance, or someone has secret files, the punishment might be greater. And exposing your work PC to potential malware and the like through browsing pornography, it's not going to go well for you.

So no, it's not strawberry floating irrelevant.

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by Partridge Iciclebubbles » Sat Dec 02, 2017 9:52 pm

captain red dog wrote:We are looking at a cyber security level from 9 years ago implemented by elderly IT illiterate MPs. It's a little unlikely, but not inconceivable that it wasn't him. Given the images were apparently legal, I think that particular incident needs no further action as I don't see how you could prove he did view those images, and did so whilst "on the clock".

Its a classic case of the media losing focus and going after an irrelevant issue when far more serious allegations are labelled against him. Who gives a strawberry float whether he looks at porn when there are more serious harassment allegations going around?


Viewing porn at work is a sackable offence in most workplaces and an MP shouldn’t be immune from that.

Was it him?

"The computer was in Mr Green's office, on his desk, logged in, his account, his name," said Mr Lewis, who at the time was working as a computer forensics examiner for SO15, the counter-terrorism command.

"In between browsing pornography, he was sending emails from his account, his personal account, reading documents... it was ridiculous to suggest anybody else could have done it."

Similar material had also been accessed on Mr Green's laptop, he claimed.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-42151148


Of course it was strawberry floating him. :lol:

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by Nibble » Sat Dec 02, 2017 10:34 pm

How can one person, be so wrong, so consistently?

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by Mistletooth » Sat Dec 02, 2017 11:44 pm

Survation, who were closer than most on the General Election polls by predicting a strong youth turnout, have Labour eight points ahead of the Tories on 45%. Apparently enough for a very slim Labour majority in Parliament if that held nationally.

Also Remain would supposedly beat Leave 52-48 if run again.

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by lex-man » Sat Dec 02, 2017 11:59 pm

The polls for Brexit were around the same place at the time of the vote.


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