The Politics Thread 3.0

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by Garth » Sun Dec 03, 2017 1:00 am

MP for Mid Bedfordshire:

Surely this shouldn't be happening...

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by Christmas CrackErrkal » Sun Dec 03, 2017 6:10 am

Yeah that in itself should be a punishable offense, in most places it would break the use of computers policy and include some sort of disaplinary process.

Especially when someone is an MP and would have access to stuff that is not for public eyes etc. It effectively puts a security hole into the government network.

These strawberry floating people :fp:

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by Squinty » Sun Dec 03, 2017 8:55 am

I pointed this out earlier because my place prohibits this kind of behaviour. We are told not leave our access cards in the PC's when we leave our desks. That sounds all kind of wrong to me.

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by Christmas CrackErrkal » Sun Dec 03, 2017 9:02 am

Yeah you access is as is suggests "your" access there wouldn't any point to named accounts if it was fine to share them, if it was all generic you would have 1 username and password for all.

It is scary as hell that mps with access to national secrets and gooseberry fool don't understand that generic access might be a bad idea....

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by Partridge Iciclebubbles » Sun Dec 03, 2017 9:10 am

Garth wrote:MP for Mid Bedfordshire:

Surely this shouldn't be happening...


So he leaves his computer unlocked and his staff then spend hundreds of hours viewing porn? While at the same time sending emails (supposedly from Green) and viewing similar images on Green’s laptop?

And he never noticed?

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by KK » Sun Dec 03, 2017 9:15 am

Too many stupid and computer illiterate people in Parliament. No common sense; love to comment on things they know nothing about.

There was masses of porn on his computer, he should be fired. Not to sound like TRUMP but if he was smarter he wouldn’t have got caught, or (apparently, though I don’t believe it) been giving his logins out to all and sundry.

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by KK » Sun Dec 03, 2017 9:45 am

I can’t believe the front page of the Sunday Telegraph this morning has “Why roast chicken is the mark of true love” written on it.

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by Dick Thornburg » Sun Dec 03, 2017 2:52 pm

Whether it was him or not (I was) is irrelevant. It was his computer, his account, ergo his responsibility. Sack the strawberry floater.

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by Return_of_the_STAR » Sun Dec 03, 2017 3:12 pm

And to think we've been blaming Russian hackers all this time when in facts it was John the intern who's been accessing everything.

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by KK » Sun Dec 03, 2017 9:15 pm

The Daily Mail website, having been turned over to the Mail on Sunday, really is hilarious.

The £50billion Brexit backlash: Voters say it is too high a price to pay as majority now back a SECOND referendum on final deal as they fear the EU want to 'punish' Britain after May's botched election

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Theresa May is 'hanging by a thread' and business should prepare for Prime Minister Jeremy Corbyn, leading City firm warns

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Theresa May's ENTIRE social mobility board quits to hurl pressure on the under-fire PM as they warn her focus on Brexit means she has 'zero' chance of helping the poor

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Tories at war over European judges as Brexiteers warn Theresa May not to make concessions that could 'reverse' the referendum

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Shock EIGHT-point lead for Labour: Corbyn stretches his lead over Tories to largest gap for five months, says only pollster to call the Election right

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Nadine Dorries comes under fire after admitting she shares her office computer password with staff and interns as she tries to defend porn-row Deputy PM Damian Green

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'Fall on your sword!' PM's chief of staff Gavin Barwell wants Damian Green to resign as pressure grows on Theresa may to sack him over computer porn

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Jeremy Hunt warns Brexiteers to back Theresa May or risk the referendum being REVERSED as critics slam her for making concessions

Tomorrow through Saturday: everything is going great.

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PostRe: The Politics Thread 3.0
by KK » Mon Dec 04, 2017 12:12 am

Jeremy Corbyn...


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by Return_of_the_STAR » Mon Dec 04, 2017 12:37 am

KK wrote:The Daily Mail website, having been turned over to the Mail on Sunday, really is hilarious.

The £50billion Brexit backlash: Voters say it is too high a price to pay as majority now back a SECOND referendum on final deal as they fear the EU want to 'punish' Britain after May's botched election

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Theresa May is 'hanging by a thread' and business should prepare for Prime Minister Jeremy Corbyn, leading City firm warns

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Theresa May's ENTIRE social mobility board quits to hurl pressure on the under-fire PM as they warn her focus on Brexit means she has 'zero' chance of helping the poor

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Tories at war over European judges as Brexiteers warn Theresa May not to make concessions that could 'reverse' the referendum

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Shock EIGHT-point lead for Labour: Corbyn stretches his lead over Tories to largest gap for five months, says only pollster to call the Election right

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Nadine Dorries comes under fire after admitting she shares her office computer password with staff and interns as she tries to defend porn-row Deputy PM Damian Green

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'Fall on your sword!' PM's chief of staff Gavin Barwell wants Damian Green to resign as pressure grows on Theresa may to sack him over computer porn

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Jeremy Hunt warns Brexiteers to back Theresa May or risk the referendum being REVERSED as critics slam her for making concessions

Tomorrow through Saturday: everything is going great.


It’s pretty funny how the websites tone changes from Saturday evening until Sunday evening. Stories just vanish into thin air when one it’s clear the other paper has taken over.

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by andretmzt » Mon Dec 04, 2017 2:09 am

Nadine Dorries under fire for lax attitude to cybersecurity

Conservative MP Nadine Dorries has come under fire for having a lax attitude to cybersecurity after divulging on Twitter that she shares her login and passwords with staff, including temporary interns.

She was defending her colleague, Damian Green, who has been accused of having pornography on his Commons computer, when she made the admission.

Questioning the claims of a retired police officer, who said Green must have been responsible for the material found on his machine, she tweeted: “My staff log onto my computer on my desk with my login everyday. Including interns on exchange programmes.”

A social media backlash ensued, forcing the Mid Bedfordshire MP to defend her position with a flurry of tweets claiming sharing passwords was standard practice around parliament, despite being a breach of IT security rules.

Responding to claims she has a “cavalier attitude to data security”, she said she was a backbench MP who did not have access to government documents.

She told critics in one reply: “You don’t have a team of four to six staff answering the 300 emails you receive every day.”

Her fellow MP, Nick Boles, waded into the debate to say he also shared his password for the same reason.

And Colchester MP Will Quince added: “Less login sharing and more that I leave my machine unlocked so they can use it if needs be. My office manager does know my login though. Ultimately I trust my team.”

The House of Commons handbook rules states that staff must not share their passwords.

According to the Sky News data protection officer, Carl Gottlieb: “Sharing access to confidential systems should always be minimised, especially in government where security and audit trails are paramount.
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“MPs and the civil service have a track record of lax practices around sharing passwords and this needs to change. MPs, like many senior managers, have teams around them that act as a bubble of trust. Interns are trusted to handle their email and social media accounts on a daily basis.

He added: “This usually works well until, eventually, the bubble bursts, and previously trusted personnel make mistakes or go rogue.

“Edward Snowden was the greatest example of this, with his NSA colleagues trusting him with their passwords, leading to the biggest breach in security the world has ever seen.”

The row over password sharing comes as a Cabinet Office inquiry examines claims pornography was found on a computer in Green’s parliamentary office.

He denies watching or downloading pornography on his computer.


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I bet nothing comes of it now that so many people are admitting to sharing passwords or leaving their computers unlocked.

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by captain red dog » Mon Dec 04, 2017 9:53 am

Why are people surprised, you only have to look at the make up of the commons to understand why they would be so out of touch with cyber security. It's predominantly middle aged and old people for whom IT is alien.

More frightening is that these people are signing off or deciding major IT and security policies without having a clue about it.

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by Grumpy David » Mon Dec 04, 2017 12:12 pm

captain red dog wrote:Why are people surprised, you only have to look at the make up of the commons to understand why they would be so out of touch with cyber security. It's predominantly middle aged and old people for whom IT is alien.

More frightening is that these people are signing off or deciding major IT and security policies without having a clue about it.


Banning end to end encryption makes sense when it seems fine for MPs to share log in details with everyone including the work experience kid. Completely undermines security and accountability.

Can't exactly rely on House of Lords to be full of IT Experts rejecting it or amending it severely when their average age is like 70+.

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by Partridge Iciclebubbles » Mon Dec 04, 2017 12:21 pm

Grumpy David wrote:
captain red dog wrote:Why are people surprised, you only have to look at the make up of the commons to understand why they would be so out of touch with cyber security. It's predominantly middle aged and old people for whom IT is alien.

More frightening is that these people are signing off or deciding major IT and security policies without having a clue about it.


Banning end to end encryption makes sense when it seems fine for MPs to share log in details with everyone including the work experience kid. Completely undermines security and accountability.

Can't exactly rely on House of Lords to be full of IT Experts rejecting it or amending it severely when their average age is like 70+.


House of Lords average age is 69. Although one guy in there was born in 1919 so when he does the average will probably drop to 42. ;)

http://www.parliament.uk/about/faqs/hou ... s-members/

The Commons stat is a bit out of date, but average age was 50 in 2015.

http://www.parliament.uk/about/faqs/hou ... mp-link-10

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by TV Dinner » Mon Dec 04, 2017 5:49 pm

Return_of_the_STAR wrote:
KK wrote:The Daily Mail website, having been turned over to the Mail on Sunday, really is hilarious.

The £50billion Brexit backlash: Voters say it is too high a price to pay as majority now back a SECOND referendum on final deal as they fear the EU want to 'punish' Britain after May's botched election

------------

Theresa May is 'hanging by a thread' and business should prepare for Prime Minister Jeremy Corbyn, leading City firm warns

------------

Theresa May's ENTIRE social mobility board quits to hurl pressure on the under-fire PM as they warn her focus on Brexit means she has 'zero' chance of helping the poor

------------

Tories at war over European judges as Brexiteers warn Theresa May not to make concessions that could 'reverse' the referendum

-------------

Shock EIGHT-point lead for Labour: Corbyn stretches his lead over Tories to largest gap for five months, says only pollster to call the Election right

-------------

Nadine Dorries comes under fire after admitting she shares her office computer password with staff and interns as she tries to defend porn-row Deputy PM Damian Green

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'Fall on your sword!' PM's chief of staff Gavin Barwell wants Damian Green to resign as pressure grows on Theresa may to sack him over computer porn

-------------

Jeremy Hunt warns Brexiteers to back Theresa May or risk the referendum being REVERSED as critics slam her for making concessions

Tomorrow through Saturday: everything is going great.


It’s pretty funny how the websites tone changes from Saturday evening until Sunday evening. Stories just vanish into thin air when one it’s clear the other paper has taken over.

The Daily and Sunday editors hate each other and try to discredit the other's stories.

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PostRe: The Politics Thread 3.0
by Alvin Flummux » Mon Dec 04, 2017 10:15 pm

I hope the Daily's servers get wiped out by Anon or someone. That'd be great.

Jupiter is in your sun sign this week, making it pretty crowded in there, what with Jupiter being the largest of the planets and all.
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by KK » Tue Dec 05, 2017 11:52 am

Another year, another train fare rise for everyone living outside of London:

BBC News wrote:Train fares in Britain will go up by an average of 3.4% from 2 January.

The increase, the biggest since 2013, covers regulated fares, which includes season tickets, and unregulated fares, such as off-peak leisure tickets.

The Rail Delivery Group admitted it was a "significant" rise, but said that more than 97% of fare income went back into improving and running the railway.

A passenger group said the rise was "a chill wind" and the RMT union called it a "kick in the teeth" for travellers.

The rise in regulated fares had already been capped at July's Retail Prices Index inflation rate of 3.6%.

The fare increase is above the latest Consumer Prices Index inflation figure of 3%, which was a five-and-a-half year high.

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The chief executive of passenger watchdog Transport Focus, Anthony Smith, said: "While substantial, welcome investment in new trains and improved track and signals is continuing, passengers are still seeing the basic promises made by the rail industry broken on too many days."

One in nine trains (12%) has arrived late at its destination in the past 12 months.

The Rail, Maritime and Transport (RMT) union general secretary Mick Cash said: "For public sector workers and many others in our communities who have had their pay and benefits capped or frozen by this government, these fare increases are another twist of the economic knife.

"The private train companies are laughing all the way to the bank."

Paul Plummer, Rail Delivery Group chief executive, told the BBC's Today programme: "We are very aware of the pressures on people and the state of the economy and are making sure everything we do is looking to improve and change and make the best use of that money."

Mr Plummer admitted it was "a significant increase" - the highest since fares rose by 3.9% in January 2013.

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Selection of new annual season ticket costs from January 2018
  • Brighton to London - £4,332 - £148 increase
  • Gloucester to Birmingham - £4,108 - £140 increase
  • Woking to London - £3,248 - £112 increase
  • Liverpool to Manchester - £3,152 - £108 increase
  • Maidenhead to London - £3,092 - £104 increase

Tammy, who commutes into London from Milton Keynes, has seen her season ticket price rise from under £4,000 to nearly £6,000. She said: "I think the price increase over the past eight years is disgusting,"

Dan said: "This is a bit of a joke at this point. I can't see how people will be able to afford to get to and from London soon."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-42234488

As a comparison, if you were travelling through London Zones 1 to 6 on an Oyster card (via train), it would be capped at £12 a day, meaning a maximum of £3,120 for a 5 day week, 52 weeks of the year (which is unlikely, so in reality well under £3,000). That dreaded season ticket locks you in - so for every day you don't travel, you're effectively costing yourself money.

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PostRe: The Politics Thread 3.0
by KK » Wed Dec 06, 2017 10:16 pm

Guardian changes to tabloid format on Monday, January 15th 2018 to try and stem its year-on-year declines of 7%.

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