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by bear » Sun Nov 12, 2017 12:02 pm

Tens of thousands of Poles marched across downtown Warsaw on Saturday, in an independence-day procession organized by a nationalist youth movement that seeks an ethnically pure Poland with fewer Jews or Muslims.


The Radical Camp has been holding independence-day marches since 2009. Until several years ago, it struggled to attract more than a few hundred people. In the past three years, it has become the largest independence-day occasion in Poland, and one of the largest nationalist marches of its kind anywhere in Europe. Saturday’s was expected to be the largest ever. Police estimated the crowd at 60,000.

“It’s getting more and more vicious,” said Jakub Skrzypek, 25, one of about a dozen counterprotesters standing behind a banner that read “We Are Polish Jews” and surrounded by police. “We are really in fear.”


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by Oblomov Boblomov » Sun Nov 12, 2017 12:21 pm

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Oblomov Boblomov wrote:I knew it wouldn't take long for the doors to be blown open on the conspiracy to smuggle that ubiquitous combination of Shariah law and homosexuality into Europe. The plebs are too smart for us.

Eastern Europe is a bit of a strawberry floating hole, isn't it. Thanks for your leading influence in that regard, Russia.

Poland is in Central Europe.

Central/Eastern/James Bond baddie accents, whatever you want to call them... :shifty:

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PostRe: The Politics Thread 3.0
by Moggy » Sun Nov 12, 2017 12:41 pm

captain red dog wrote:
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captain red dog wrote:This is a view from an untrained eye admittedly, but 60,000 Nazis sounds like absolute bollocks of the highest order.


Oh well 10,000 Nazi's. That's much better.

You're a strange man CRD.

So reading up on this, it's an annual celebration of Polish independence. What most likely happened is around 1000 or 2000 right wing extremists took part with racist banners.

That's not a good thing by any stretch, the far right does appear to be gaining support, I'd condemn them as I would any extremist, but I highly, highly doubt there were 60,000 Nazis marching in Warsaw.

Edit: Just to say that if you do think there were 60,000 Nazis marching in Warsaw, do you not then think something has gone very seriously wrong on the continent?


That’s an interesting response to a march where people were calling for a “Muslim holocaust”.

“Yeah but most of them were fine people, fine people”

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by Memento Mori » Sun Nov 12, 2017 3:05 pm

How do I make Boris like me again?

Michael Gove has come under fire for saying he didn't know what Nazanin Zaghari-Ratcliffe was doing in Iran when she was arrested in 2016.

Mr Gove told Andrew Marr he would "take her husband's assurance" that the British-Iranian citizen was on holiday.

He was defending the foreign secretary, whose own comments have caused concern that her sentence could be extended.

Labour said he "was more interested in protecting (Boris) Johnson's job" than Mrs Zaghari-Ratcliffe's liberty.

Shadow Cabinet Office minister Jon Trickett said Mr Gove had "compounded" Mr Johnson's "cavalier approach to international diplomacy".

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by KK » Sun Nov 12, 2017 10:20 pm

Nazanin Zaghari-Ratcliffe's husband has issued a statement tonight saying he doesn't want Boris Johnson sacked as it would likely make the situation worse. Apparently they had a phone conversion today and will meet in-person at some point in the coming weeks.

Her situation is deteriorating though apparently.

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by lex-man » Mon Nov 13, 2017 12:43 am

captain red dog wrote:
DML wrote:
captain red dog wrote:This is a view from an untrained eye admittedly, but 60,000 Nazis sounds like absolute bollocks of the highest order.


Oh well 10,000 Nazi's. That's much better.

You're a strange man CRD.

So reading up on this, it's an annual celebration of Polish independence. What most likely happened is around 1000 or 2000 right wing extremists took part with racist banners.

That's not a good thing by any stretch, the far right does appear to be gaining support, I'd condemn them as I would any extremist, but I highly, highly doubt there were 60,000 Nazis marching in Warsaw.

Edit: Just to say that if you do think there were 60,000 Nazis marching in Warsaw, do you not then think something has gone very seriously wrong on the continent?


The article says the march was organized by a neo nazi organisation, although it did take place on Polish independence day. It also points out that a number of people said they weren't fascists but they weren't bothered by the tone of the march. So it was 60,000 gooseberry fool heads, a large portion of who were fascists and the rest who are fine with fascists.

Also something really is wrong with Europe and the world in general at the moment.

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by <]:^D » Mon Nov 13, 2017 12:46 am

is Cora a modern historian? would be good to know an expert view on the state of the world as in similarities/differences to the late 20s early 30s with the rise of Fascism.

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PostRe: The Politics Thread 3.0
by Squinty » Mon Nov 13, 2017 7:35 am

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-northern-ireland-41962296

Stormont :fp:

I guess their pay isn't going to be capped then? Wankers.

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by Rocsteady » Mon Nov 13, 2017 8:22 am

Memento Mori wrote:How do I make Boris like me again?

Michael Gove has come under fire for saying he didn't know what Nazanin Zaghari-Ratcliffe was doing in Iran when she was arrested in 2016.

Mr Gove told Andrew Marr he would "take her husband's assurance" that the British-Iranian citizen was on holiday.

He was defending the foreign secretary, whose own comments have caused concern that her sentence could be extended.

Labour said he "was more interested in protecting (Boris) Johnson's job" than Mrs Zaghari-Ratcliffe's liberty.

Shadow Cabinet Office minister Jon Trickett said Mr Gove had "compounded" Mr Johnson's "cavalier approach to international diplomacy".

Was going to post that too, what a smiley piece of gooseberry fool. Slight political advantage at the expense of a woman's life.

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PostRe: The Politics Thread 3.0
by DML » Mon Nov 13, 2017 8:32 am

Rocsteady wrote:
Memento Mori wrote:How do I make Boris like me again?

Michael Gove has come under fire for saying he didn't know what Nazanin Zaghari-Ratcliffe was doing in Iran when she was arrested in 2016.

Mr Gove told Andrew Marr he would "take her husband's assurance" that the British-Iranian citizen was on holiday.

He was defending the foreign secretary, whose own comments have caused concern that her sentence could be extended.

Labour said he "was more interested in protecting (Boris) Johnson's job" than Mrs Zaghari-Ratcliffe's liberty.

Shadow Cabinet Office minister Jon Trickett said Mr Gove had "compounded" Mr Johnson's "cavalier approach to international diplomacy".

Was going to post that too, what a smiley piece of gooseberry fool. Slight political advantage at the expense of a woman's life.


The worst thing is I don't think he's even getting that. Surely his moment for power has passed.

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by Irene Demova » Mon Nov 13, 2017 11:21 am

KK wrote:Nazanin Zaghari-Ratcliffe's husband has issued a statement tonight saying he doesn't want Boris Johnson sacked as it would likely make the situation worse. Apparently they had a phone conversion today and will meet in-person at some point in the coming weeks.

Her situation is deteriorating though apparently.

TBH I can kinda see Iran's point, with every new story or statement about her I'm more and more convinced that she is a spy

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PostRe: The Politics Thread 3.0
by Preezy » Mon Nov 13, 2017 11:26 am

If she was a spy then she'd already be back in the UK. No way would the intelligence services want one of their agents sat in an Iranian jail being subjected to who knows what.

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PostRe: The Politics Thread 3.0
by Moggy » Mon Nov 13, 2017 11:32 am

I’d imagine most spies traveling to hostile countries take their 22 month old daughters along.

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PostRe: The Politics Thread 3.0
by KK » Mon Nov 13, 2017 11:50 am

Boris Johnson's dad has entered I'm a Celebrity Get Me Out Of Here!

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PostRe: The Politics Thread 3.0
by Moggy » Mon Nov 13, 2017 11:52 am

KK wrote:Boris Johnson's dad has entered I'm a Celebrity Get Me Out Of Here!


Hopefully he’s allergic to kangaroo anus.

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PostRe: The Politics Thread 3.0
by DML » Mon Nov 13, 2017 12:52 pm

He's going to win isn't he?

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PostRe: The Politics Thread 3.0
by Squinty » Mon Nov 13, 2017 1:30 pm

KK wrote:Boris Johnson's dad has entered I'm a Celebrity Get Me Out Of Here!


He must be like 4 million years old.

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PostRe: The Politics Thread 3.0
by Karl » Mon Nov 13, 2017 1:33 pm

Preezy wrote:If she was a spy then she'd already be back in the UK. No way would the intelligence services want one of their agents sat in an Iranian jail being subjected to who knows what.

Yeah, I mean, maybe I've watched too many movies, but I genuinely kind of assumed spies caught in hostile countries would either 'mysteriously disappear' or get quietly traded back.

Anyway, it's obvious she wasn't a spy -- she's just being used as propaganda against the EVIL WESTERN PIGS or whatever.

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PostRe: The Politics Thread 3.0
by Moggy » Mon Nov 13, 2017 5:57 pm

Limmy (read the whole thread) :lol: :lol: :lol: :wub:


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PostRe: The Politics Thread 3.0
by Hyperion » Mon Nov 13, 2017 8:18 pm

Can't stand that dickhead. Looks like he's never been outside



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